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It is an anger, its an exhaustion with politics in particular, politicians saying things and then nothing ever changing a report reveals children from impoverished areas are behind other pupils in maths and reading. Despite attempts to help catch up on their education after the coronavirus lockdown. After the coronavirus lockdown. Is the future of airports bigger or smaller . The city of derry shows the way with a new Business Model. We have a special report coming up. And Jonathan Vautrey has your latest Weather Forecast. Latest Weather Forecast. A mixed bag of weather across the uk for the next couple of days. Join me later to find out if youll see the rain or the sunshine. Sunshine everywhere paul coyte goes. Lets see what hes shining on in the world of sports. Sports. Well, i dont want to say i told you so, but i told you so. Newcastle thrash Paris Saint Germain of the Champions League last night at saint jamess park. The euros are coming britain and coming to Great Britain and ireland world in 2030 ireland in the world cup in 2030 is be all over the is going to be all over the place. Incredible. Thats going its incredible. Thats going to be in south america here, there, everywhere. Over here. Theyre everywhere just here we just because they can. Here we go. As always, you can join in your discussions. Give us your views, your opinions. Your discussions. Give us your view us your opinions. Your discussions. Give us your view us your your opinions. Your discussions. Give us your view us your opinions inions. Your discussions. Give us your view us your opinions on ons. Your discussions. Give us your view us your opinions on the give us your opinions on the Prime Ministers big speech yesterday , hs2 and all the rest. Yesterday, hs2 and all the rest. Gb views gbnews. Com or tweet us. Gb news. Okay. To our top story this morning, the Prime Minister has laid out his stall with his keynote speech wrapping up the conservative conference conservative Party Conference wide policy wide range of policy announcements scrapping announcements from scrapping a levels to the hs2 link to manchester tower, as well as outlawing cigarettes for future generations. But there was less talk about rishi sunak self declared five priorities on inflation, the economy, debt waiting lists and illegal migration. Plenty of reaction coming up, but first, what do young people who will be voting for the first time in the next general election make of this speech . Theyve been our studio yesterday. They watched his speech. Reaction. Speech. Is their reaction. There was one section where he was sort of just going off on a little rant by himself. This conservative party, the party that legislated for same sex marriage and is investing record amounts in child care. We know that. What matters is that love cascades down the generations. Generations. Is love cascading down your family like just yeah, thats just a really weird way of flowery way of saying something which i dont. Thats another thing. I dont think he actually got to a point with that. I think it was a bit cringe here and there like some things he said. I feel like he was making statement. Thats where he felt like, oh, this is like a really good statement. But it wasnt giving that. I think tried quite hard i think he tried quite hard to all the people in the to impress all the people in the conference us. Conference under us. No more rip off degrees. No more rip off degrees. Students dont spend enough time in the classroom. Im a quarter in the classroom. Im a quarter of our children leave education without the basic literacy and numeracy. We they need to fulfil numeracy. We they need to fulfil their potential all and our students study too narrow a range of subjects. Yeah so that that really annoys me. Yeah. Yeah. I think gcse is are really good because it teaches us how to study a broad range of subjects and it gets us into some a lot of Different Things which we might be interested in and obviously things that we might not be interested in. But i think once your a levels, its lot more your a levels, its a lot more personal and your thats personal and thats your thats actually first steps actually your first steps towards an towards university or an apprenticeship Something Like apprenticeship or Something Like you go down everything you want to go down everything i learnt i was in learnt up until i was 16 in terms is all i needed terms of maths is all i needed to know. I dont need any more numeracy skills. Im happy with the ive those who the skills. Ive got those who teach key subjects in schools and the first time in our and for the first time in our further education colleges two will receive special bonuses of up to £30,000, tax free over the first five years of their career. Ca reer. Career. You know, this whole bonus thing for teachers in credible, i think teachers are like the best people ever. And i think they deserve all the money in the world. But i think if youre only offering that money to teachers that are teaching essential subjects, it will off from will put teachers off from teaching the other, more artistic subjects. Patients should know when hospitals are talking about men or and we shouldnt get or women, and we shouldnt get bullied into believing that people can be sex they want people can be any sex they want to be. They cant. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. Thats just common sense. Hes thats just common sense. Hes got sex and gender completely mixed up with gender. Its your social identity. Let people express themselves however they feel like they want to be. What this lacks is compassion i smoking places huge pressures on the nhs and costs our country. £17 billion a year. We have a chance to cut cancer deaths by a quarter , deaths by a quarter, significantly ease those pressures and protect our children. And we should take it. Hes right in saying, you know, we need to stop it. But like the cause of , you know, like the cause of, you know, kids and stuff isnt cigarettes. Its definitely a cigarettes is vaping, especially around like a university campus. University campus. Like youll go just around and see everyone just having a vape instead of cigarettes. Now smoking has been a very big problem in the past, but its not that prevalent anymore. I mean, the marketing for it as well is ridiculous. They come out with new flavours like unicorn shake and vapes that look like ice creams , and its just its blatantly made for teenagers. So do you still vape a lot then . Yeah, in the long term, i think it is a good thing that were phasing out smoking and that, yeah, he has the right idea. I just im not really sure raising the age gap. Raising the age gap. What would you say is, is a better solution then . No idea. Thats for them to figure out. Not me. Well, there you go. Well, there you go. Yeah. You just tired there. Yeah. You just tired there. What . Our first time voters thought about smoking and vaping. Heres john dunn jones, the director general, uk vaping industry association. Its industry association. Its interesting, john, that the young people didnt see cigarette smoking as the threat. They they saw you and your industry dodi as the threat. Industry dodi as the threat. Well, first of all, its important to understand that smoking rates are the lowest they have been in since records were being kept. And thats primarily because of vaping. Weve got 4. 6 Million People vaping in this country. It is the most successful way that adult smokers quit cigarettes, but i absolutely agree with the government. It is important that we make sure that these products are not getting in the hands of children, but we also need to strike that balance of not discouraging adult smokers from switching as well. So now we switching as well. So now we have plenty of laws in this country, but they arent being enforced properly. The fines enforced properly. The fines that stores get that are caught selling to minors are ridic low. Now it is encouraging that the government is talking about increasing those two on the spot fines of 2500 pounds, which actually is our idea that weve had for the past four years. But we want those fines to be a minimum of £10,000 per instance. And i also am encouraged to see that the government is talking about licencing or restricting where these products can be sold. Again, thats one can be sold. Again, thats one of our ideas. So were quite of our ideas. So were quite willing to work with the government. Were not trying to get a new generation hooked on on vaping or smoking. Were here to make sure that adults have a product that works to make sure that they switch away from a deadly product that kills 550 people every day. You dont think then that unicorn vapes or vanilla shake vapes are aimed at youngsters . They are for adults. In your view, you dont think that you are explicitly targeted young people . No what i believe is that that these products should not be allowed on the market. And one of the things that weve pointed out to the government is that the mhra, who regulates nicotine vapes in this country, does not look at these naming crimes area. They dont look at the packaging, they dont look at the design of the products. And the design of the products. And they should be doing that during their initial review of the product, not when it actually gets into the market. And then its up to trading standards to try and, you know, cut this out from from store to store. So we know where the loopholes are here. The legitimate industry is not trying to put these products out there. These products are generally coming in in a legal vapes that arent even allowed to be sold in this country. But theres inadequate steps being taken to stop them getting into the country. And thats where we need to work very closely with the to stop that. The government to stop that. You to be a big yeah, so you seem to be a big growth industry, john, and benefiting from what the Prime Minister said there. Minister said there. I cant help but seeing everywhere in the high street vape shops popping right, vape shops popping up right, left and centre there, i just want to know from people watching or listening whats their experience of vaping . Have they switched from cigarettes to what believe . What john what they believe . What john says a much safer option or says is a much safer option or vaping . Us know this morning vaping . Let us know this morning or did vaping get you in to stronger stuff like cigarettes . Stronger stuff like cigarettes . Yeah. And im interested , you yeah. And im interested, you know, youre talking about wanting to work closely with the government. Were heading into an year next year. If an Election Year next year. If the polls are to be believed and you know, the polls have been wrong in the past, but it looks like labour will probably win next year. Theyve come out and said they would actually said that they would actually because free because this would be a free vote put fonnard by rishi sunak. They actually have they would actually have no objection clamping down objection to him clamping down on then eventually on smoking and then eventually on smoking and then eventually on so is that way on vaping. So is that the way you think the wind is blowing and you from a and therefore, you know, from a business got to Business Model, youve got to start is actually start thinking this is actually going be impinging on our going to be impinging on our business the future. Business model in the future. Well i dont believe so. Still have 6 million we still have 6 Million People this country that people in this country that smoke. Now what need to do is smoke. Now what we need to do is encourage those smokers to move away smoking, which will away from smoking, which will eventually kill them to a product that far safer and product that is far safer and i dont care whether thats vaping, whether thats nicotine patches, gums , whatever moves patches, gums, whatever moves them away is the important thing. But what we know is that in the uk and worldwide vaping is the uk and worldwide vaping is the most successful way for people to do that. And the reason that is , is because reason that is, is because people enjoy it, but be it replicates that smoking experience and thats why it works. So we need to be very careful that we dont disturb that or the government has no hope of it getting anywhere close to its 2030 smoke free britain. We have to increase britain. We have to increase vaping by about 40 to get anywhere close to that, but we do need to balance that to make sure that young people dont get the hold of these products. And thats we thats really important. And we are willing to work are absolutely willing to work with government on any with the government on any solution that gets them to that point. That doesnt disturb that fine balance between adults getting these and getting these products and products that they actually want to. To use. Okay, john, thank you for your there. John your contribution there. John from uk vaping industry from the uk vaping industry association. Thank you very much association. Thank you very much indeed. Association. Thank you very much indeed. And i suppose the thing indeed. And i suppose the thing that slightly disturbs me about vaping is the enthusiasm people have when they grasp one of those vapes or or smoke them and you watch people doing it and they like it and its like pregnant women on on gas and air dunng pregnant women on on gas and air during labour. Its like, you know , the elixir of youth. Its know, the elixir of youth. Its like, oh , i need this. And when like, oh, i need this. And when you stand back, i mean, were not smokers. So, you know, it doesnt doesnt affect us. But you stand back and you you look at people doing this and its like its like weve got to have this right now. I mean, that seems addiction to me, adult dummies, dont they . Which i think sometimes a bit derogatory. But but actually, thats what it looks like. What is our need as adults to kind of have some sort of tactile mouth contact . But its all a have some sort of tactile mouth contact . But its all a bit dummy again , we can talk. Dummy again, we can talk. Youve experienced the whole situation. What have you got to say about this . I mean, would you be vaping this morning as youre watching us . I often think, you know people i think youre in a bad way if you start the day with a cigarette or you start day with alcohol , the day with a cigarette or you start day with alcohol, um, start the day with alcohol, um, you may not, you may not think that, but also do you feel as a smoker that this is a bit authoritarian from rishi . Liz truss came straight out and said she wouldnt be voting in favour of these proposals. In favour of these proposals. Shes very much a libertarian. Shes very much a libertarian. Perhaps you have had enough of all of this and you feel as though with the marketing that they talked about with the sort of what you see cancerous of what is it you see cancerous lungs and the rest of it all over the packs, maybe you youve just had enough. Just had enough. I was sitting i was sitting with smokers last week and on the table, i lifted up the pack that had this. I couldnt even make out what it was. I think it was a lung turned inside out, sliced open , turned inside out, sliced open, whatever. But i was trying to work out what it was. Did it have any effect on any of those people around that table . No, it people around that table . No, it did. Did not. It did not. Did. It did not. It did not. Three years after the pandemic. Three years after the pandemic. No, lets not talk about that. Lets talk about regional airport. Its lets talk about regional airport. Its right. So Regional Airports, i am personally a big fan of regional air benefited from Bristol Airport for many years. Yeah i think small is better. Southampton newcastle , better. Southampton newcastle, belfast. Not a fan of the gatwicks and whatever of this world, but there we go. So world, but there we go. So theyre about connecting the country north, south east and west. Not only nationally, but internationally. Yeah. And sadly well some are closed because theyre no longer financially viable. Sheffield sheffield. Yeah. Sheffield. Yeah. I was worried about Dougie Beattie in Northern Ireland theres an airport called city of derry in the north west periphery of europe. As it turns out, not only Northern Ireland, theyve got new routes to heathrow and dougie finds out how the airlines , local government and airlines, local government and the airport are working together to keep the flights going. And the airport going and the employment that it brings. Employment that it brings. Londonderry is the uks most north city. It borders the repubuc north city. It borders the republic of ireland and only recently has had an update on its road networks. Selina its road networks. Selina hershey is the president of the chamber of commerce and believes derry is on the up. Derry is on the up. The last couple of years, derry is doing really very well, but over the decades before that, this was historically an area of serious economic deprivation and high levels of economic inactivity. Now were economic inactivity. Now were in a situation where we are drawing international companies. We are upskilling in local businesses , and were at the businesses, and were at the verge of becoming a real player within the island of ireland. Tony foster represents business from the other side of the border , but were very the border, but were very porous. Porous. The border is irrelevant. We the border is irrelevant. We dont even notice it. So our dont even notice it. So our business Work Together with other businesses in derry on a northwest, we have a northwest city region and its very important to us that that region works well. So connectivity out works well. So connectivity out of that region is really important. Important. Derry city airport is a lifeline for the area and steve fraser says how airports create revenue is changing. Revenue is changing. So airports will make money from two sources of revenue. Commercial and aviation. Thats the fees that the airlines will pay the fees that the airlines will pay the airport to come in, which are becoming less and less. And often theyre looking incentivised. And then the incentivised. And then the commercial from your car parking and your and thats how and your shops. And thats how we make but as you we would make money. But as you know, Regional Airports, know, largely Regional Airports, particularly million particularly under a million passengers, make money and passengers, dont make money and need kind of subvention or need some kind of subvention or some kind of support. Soto ensure region gets the ensure that region gets the economic the airport, economic gains of the airport, jonathan the chief Jonathan Hinkles is the chief executive loganair and says executive of loganair and says in some cases local Authority Funding is an option. I think in some cases, yes it is. If local authorities want that support for an airport for their local economy, they are going to have to get involved in providing that. But thats an excellent return on investment. So for every of public so for every pound of public money that goes into keeping city of derry airport open and thriving , £10 comes back through thriving, £10 comes back through the local economy, there are very, very few other things that will give you that same return on investment as that. It really is worthwhile and the benefits it brings. Also in terms of the connectivity through heathrow , connectivity through heathrow, people being able to connect and do business worldwide here do business worldwide from here in inward investment, in terms of inward investment, with coming into city with companies coming into city of derry, the wider region, strabane right the way across the north west of ireland , the north west of ireland, setting up and doing business here. Can do because here. They can do that because they get airlines to they can get here airlines to have updated high businesses done regional brands and airports are now linking up with much larger partners. Well, i much larger partners. Well, i think what weve done for the first time is to plug the city of derry into the International Air connectivity network. You can buy a single ticket from derry that will take you to wherever you want to go worldwide. And a few worldwide. And theres a few benefits that. Theres benefits for that. Theres a saving the air Passenger Duty saving on the air Passenger Duty taxes pay. It also taxes that youd pay. It also means that your baggage allowance right the allowance is the same right the way through your journey. So if youre 30 kilo youre flying with a 30 kilo baggage allowance australia, baggage allowance to australia, you get a 30 kilo baggage allowance on your flight from derry to heathrow to connect to that australia. And that flight to australia. And also if theres weather or any other problems, then its the airlines responsibility to get you where you to go. So you to where you want to go. So well look after you throughout that until get to that journey until you get to your destination. Beattie gb news in the Dougie Beattie gb news in the midlands city. Midlands city. Very interesting report there from dougie because a lot of people dont take into account, say you live in scotland and you want to get to dubai. Well, you cant fly directly, so youve got to go via manchester or london, whatever, and derry being the perfect example there it is. The connectivity within the uk first and foremost, that enables people to get off internationally to the usa wherever it happens to be. So i, l, wherever it happens to be. So i, i, we said it before , a big fan i, we said it before, a big fan of local Regional Airports. Or of local Regional Airports. Or do you think the big whats the word . Mono mono monolith monoliths. Monoliths. I quite like the big ones just because the shopping is so goodi just because the shopping is so good i have to say you know, isabel, ive never shopped in a duty free in my life. Oh , i love it. You get we go, oh, i love it. You get we go, we get our chin, which well take on holiday with us, and well have something in the fridge for the week. Ill go and get a top. Ill go and get a top. Be lucky to last a week i i i dont really like gin so much anymore. But anyway. And also , ill just have a little also, ill just have a little look at the bikinis if im going on or perhaps a couple on a holiday or perhaps a couple of products from of little Hair Products from because the miniatures because they do the miniatures and quite like those. I dont and i quite like those. I dont like to pack shampoo like to pack a whole shampoo when if i can when im going away. So if i can go in any room, why do you have any room youve packed already to your capacity, why do you to your capacity, so why do you want carry any more by the time . Ti me . Time . Well, that is true. Well, that is true. Well, that is true. We up carrying a lot we do end up carrying a lot through the airport, which isnt my fun, but such is my idea of fun, but such is life, you know. No pain, no gain. But youre not. Youre not feel on all these duty frees look the same. Do you not feel that theyve got these little yellow paths. Yellow brick road paths. Quite annoying. Its quite annoying. Its quite annoying. Annoying because thats very annoying because thats left and thats it. You turn left and right. A bit like ikea right. Its a bit like ikea where you cant just work out the beginning end. Where you cant just work out the itslinning end. Where you cant just work out the its like ng end. Where you cant just work out the its like a end. Where you cant just work out the its like a its end. Where you cant just work out the its like a its likeznd. Where you cant just work out the its like a its like ad. Where you cant just work out the its like a its like a maze. Its like a its like a maze. Its like a its like a maze. Its like a its like a maze. I do like when very attractive women stop me and spray me with aftershave. Eamonn, would you like smell eamonn, would you like to smell this . Yes, why this . And i would go, yes, why not . Ive no intention of buying it. But i not . Ive no intention of buying it. Buti always not . Ive no intention of buying it. But i always say the same thing. They spray all around me, whatever, go. Say, just whatever, and i go. I say, just give me an or two to think give me an hour or two to think about it. I maybe ill get about it. I said, maybe ill get it on the way back. Liar, liar. Liar, liar. But but theres also expensive. Expensive. Well, i do think duty and well, i do think the duty free element it is probably free element of it is probably a bit of a i dont think you bit of a con. I dont think you get the kind savings that you get the kind of savings that you used to get at the airport, but still, its just part of the fun. But actually, i like fun. Yes, but actually, i like the Regional Airports in the ease of Regional Airports in terms all of that terms of parking and all of that stuff. Can get nice and stuff. You can get nice and close to glasgow airport. Very nice women theres some very nice women there, there and at there, but there are. And at belfast city theyre very, belfast city and theyre very, very stopping and very good at stopping and smelling me. Very good at stopping and smnimig me. Very good at stopping and smnimig methe chaps are good im sure the chaps are good too. Well, dont meet the chaps. Well, i dont meet the chaps. I dont the chaps. Just i dont meet the chaps. Just some lovely women who i dont meet the chaps. Just sonthere lovely women who i dont meet the chaps. Just sonthere at lovely women who i dont meet the chaps. Just sonthere at theely women who i dont meet the chaps. Just sonthere at the time. Omen who i dont meet the chaps. Just sonthere at the time. Is|en who i dont meet the chaps. Just sonthere at the time. Is 6 21. Ho are there at the time. Is 6 21. Good morning to you, wherever you are. Youre very welcome to breakfast on gb news. If you have joined us, dont have just joined us, dont forget can keep up to date forget you can keep up to date on everything were covering on forget you can keep up to date on nonlineing were covering on forget you can keep up to date on nonline and were covering on forget you can keep up to date on nonline and one covering on forget you can keep up to date on nonline and on yourvering on forget you can keep up to date on nonline and on your radio. On tv, online and on your radio. And heres a reminder of our top stories this morning. Minister announces the Prime Minister announces a in his a range of policies in his speech , including phase out speech, including a phase out smoking ban. The scrapping of a levels and the axing of hs2, northern link. The average rent for homes across the country is excluding london has reached a record. London has reached a record. High of £1,278. In the capital, its more than double that and well be debating plans to monitor and calculate it. Carbon footprints as you travel abroad, im sure that keeps you awake at night. How do you feel about your holiday destinations being restricted because as you have to have a carbon passport which says you can only travel so far in a year. You couldnt make it up. And dont get me started on that. Dont get me started on that. Just stop oil lot. So in the west end, last night, what was a miserable album appropriately named. So it was full of Les Miserables, who invaded the stage and held up the production. When you think of people who go to the west end andits people who go to the west end and its a special treat and how much they pay for a ticket to have their production interrupted by people in t shirts and big banners. Anyway lets see what the weather is doing out there. Jonathan vautrey. Vautrey. Hello there. Very good morning. Im Jonathan Vautrey who is your gb news Weather Forecast the forecast provided by the metaphor definitely mixed metaphor is definitely a mixed picture the during picture across the uk. During today weve already got rain spreading into parts of Northern Ireland. Quite wet, spreading into parts of northern irelanlstart quite wet, spreading into parts of northern irelanlstart to quite wet, spreading into parts of northern irelanlstart to theite wet, spreading into parts of northern irelanlstart to the day wet, spreading into parts of northern irelanlstart to the day here that damp start to the day here that is pushing its way into western parts of scotland and then will eventually of eventually reach parts of northern wales Northern England and wales as well. Southeastern areas of well. But southeastern areas of england and far england and even the far northeast in the northeast of scotland in the northern staying largely northern isles, staying largely dry of the day with dry for most of the day with some spells as well. Well some sunny spells as well. Well be Eastern England that be south Eastern England that sees temperatures, sees those higher temperatures, though, generally reaching around 19 c, a bit cooler where you are stuck underneath the rain particularly for rain and particularly for northeast scotland, around 12 c there. So quite gusty at times. Some gales around the irish sea coastal areas that rain there will spread its way eastwards as we head throughout this evening and eventually few and overnight. Eventually a few drabs, their way drabs, pushing their way across southeastern but southeastern areas as well. But most turning most places largely turning dry as head the second half as we head into the second half of night. Still some of the night. Still just some random pushing their way random showers pushing their way through times. Of cloud through at times. A lot of cloud around, though, and still the breeze in place. So that will help mix up air prevent help mix up the air and prevent our too our temperatures dropping too far of us seeing far at all. Most of us seeing quite a mild night around 14, 15 c. We see this lingering 15 c. We then see this lingering rain start push way into rain start to push its way into parts scotland throughout parts of scotland throughout friday. As heads friday. This pulse, as it heads in later the afternoon as in later on in the afternoon as well, could provide quite well, could provide some quite heavy rain. So heavy and persistent rain. So worth watching for that. But worth watching out for that. But again, fairly dry start again, a fairly fine dry start and end the day across and end to the day across southern with some southern areas with some sunny spells as well. Spells in there as well. Temperatures beginning to climb with airflow with that southerly airflow around higher as we around 21 c. Even higher as we head into the weekend. Enjoy your bye. Your weekend. Bye bye. Stay with us. Were going to be discussing newcastles dream night in Champions League night in the Champions League against saint germain. Against Paris Saint Germain. Thats. N ext next at the time 626. Welcome to breakfast on gb news with him and isabel. And lets have and isabel. And lets have a look at some of the other stories that youre waking up to this morning. Well, lets take a look at the moment. Justin boyle. Protesters disrupted a performance of Les Miserables at the in london. The west end in london. If youre listening radio, youre listening on the radio, using their trademark orange gatecrashing, stage with a gatecrashing, the stage with a giant banner saying Just Stop Oil. Members of the activist group locked themselves to the stage, forcing actors to finish their performance. Five people their performance. Five people were arrested and well be discussing this throughout the morning. Morning. A man who died after being attacked by an xl bulldog in sunderland has been named by Northumbria Police as ian langley. Police say the owner of langley. Police say the owner of the dog has now been arrested on suspicion of murder. Suspicion of murder. And the french transport minister says sniffer dogs will be deployed to inspect trains for bedbugs , but insists theres for bedbugs, but insists theres no outbreak on public transport. The comment follows an emergency meeting of major operators as concerns are spreading across the country. Fumigation companies have reported increasing demand for their products, while rail passengers are insisting on standing rather than risking a bite by sitting on seats. Well, what we are looking at is truly horrific. There i mean, is truly horrific. There i mean, theres bugs and theres bugs. Theres bugs and theres bugs. Those things were huge there. So theres this bedbug epidemic thats breaking out in paris and theres lots of focus on the channel tunnel in particular because, of course, those trains, people, theyve spread now to restaurants, all sorts of places where people are sitting down and spreading them from the beds. And theyre really rid of once really hard to get rid of once you better, youre saying you get better, youre saying they get your body from the they get on your body from the bed, from the clothing. Then elsewhere and we then move elsewhere and they jump off the hitch a lift and well. And the eggs as well. And so the fear is that could the channel tunnel be bringing this . Moment this . At the moment theyre doing of of doing extra cleaning of the of the trains the moment. Doing extra cleaning of the of the trains the moment. I the trains at the moment. I mean, i have to say theres nothing worse, is there, than the thought of lying in bed and being eaten alive. Being eaten alive. Yeah. Well, i was going to yeah. Well, i was going to say , i dont think ive ever say, i dont think ive ever experienced it. But you wouldnt really know, would you . Oh, you would, would you . You would know bits of you bitten. Yes. And you cant get rid. Its an infestation very hard shift. So fingers hard to shift. So fingers crossed. That doesnt, doesnt happen over here. Okay. Three years after the okay. Three years after the pandemic , which forced schools pandemic, which forced schools to close , were getting some to close, were getting some insight into the damage done. We reported on this today to childrens education. Yes. New research from the institute of fiscal studies suggests children in Primary Schools particularly in disadvantage areas, remain months behind their peers in reading and maths. But they say the gap is slowly narrowing. Okay. Why is that . Chief examiner and author of lessons from lockdown, tony breslin with this one. Tony how are you getting on top of this . Why is this narrowing . This narrowing . Well, its look, its good that the gap is narrowing and curriculum catch up is taking place. But there are a range of place. But there are a range of other issues that we have to look at here. And we have to remember, no. Two children, no two schools, no. Two classes have had the same lockdown. So actually , the one thing we dont actually, the one thing we dont needis actually, the one thing we dont need is an all embracing approach for everybody, because everybodys had a different experience. What we do have to ask is not just the curriculum stuff, because that gap will continue to narrow , but whats continue to narrow, but whats the impact on a five year old of having missed a years playdate . Because those werent arranged dunng because those werent arranged during the pandemic at the school gate . Whats the impact of a 14 year old who hasnt, you know , experienced the normal know, experienced the normal stuff of the of the corridor, jostle used to drive me mad when i was teaching, but actually thats part of how young people become adults. So a big part of the lockdown legacy has to be be considered how do we deal with the development of young peoples social skills and their confidence and all of that kind of stuff . We need to think about that alongside curriculum. Yeah, and i have a five year old, so, you know, when youre talking about that, im sort of instantly imagining, gosh, did you did she out from you know, did she miss out from not having the playdates things . Then think, well, how and then i think, well, how does that play into disadvantaged background ends and you know, were seeing and not you know, were seeing that between and not you know, were seeing that two between and not you know, were seeing that two groups. Between and not you know, were seeing that two groups. Why between and not you know, were seeing that two groups. Why would zn and not you know, were seeing that two groups. Why would kids these two groups. Why would kids from backgrounds from disadvantaged backgrounds have social problems, have more social problems, perhaps to covid than perhaps related to covid than than . Than others . Well, look , they they often well, look, they they often those children will live in more cramped circumstances. Often cramped circumstances. Often they wont have the range of out of School Activities , as out of School Activities, as often they wont have had the same range of parties and events because this kind of these kind of things are expensive to stage. So what we do know from lockdown is that while the lockdown is that while the lockdown impact acted differently on every child in every group , the brunt of the every group, the brunt of the difficult experience was borne by those least advantaged to take advantage of it. Tony what have we have another very bad coronavirus breakout at some deviant off it over this winter i yeah. What lessons have been learned . What would happen with the same things happen again . Well look i think what you theres grounds for hope here. If we do have to deal with this kind of thing again, the Digital Literacy of the profession has gone through the roof. If we look at the first and second substantive School Closures , the first one, none of closures, the first one, none of us knew what we were doing. We were learning this was a first. The second one, young people were up and running with online learning. Within 24 to 48 hours. Learning. Within 24 to 48 hours. And you know, that was a remarkable turnaround. Now im not claiming that that the onune not claiming that that the online can supplant the classroom, particularly. It classroom, particularly. It cant do the social piece in the same way. But what we do know and what we should be encouraged by is actually how much many children did learn in spite of those lockdowns. So were better equipped to deal with it this time. Were learning all the time. Were learning all the time. Were learning all the time. And of course, now schools time. And of course, now schools have not just put computers back in the cupboard. Were now using in the cupboard. Were now using the online alongside the in class in a way we never have before. And we need to be positive in identifying those covid deeps. So that they continue to inform our practise. Okay, tony, love your enthusiasm and hope that gets through to teachers and pupils and things are all on the turn. Thank you very much indeed, tony breslin is the former chief examiner and hes an author of a book called lessons from lockdown. Thank you. Now lets go through all the latest sport with paul coyte. What have you got for us, mr coyte . Theres loads. Theres loads actually. Really . We should start with newcastle newcastle newcastle because newcastle last night remember night against psg. I remember well i dont remember him saying it, but its a very famous thing that bill shankly said the old liverpool manager was actually about Tottenham Hotspur of the day and called them cockney tap dancen day and called them cockney tap dancer, know, its dancer, which is, you know, its just all style over substance. Just all style over substance. Yes, but whereas thats what Paris Saint Germain, i think are and they offered not a lot against newcastle and at saint jamess park, as we said yesterday, they its going to be incredible. You know, its going incredible. You know, its going to be incredible atmosphere. To be an incredible atmosphere. It was the crowd were up for it. First time in the Champions League in 20 years. The team were for they beat were up for it and they beat them 4 1 they absolutely hammered them. So from the group that in, people say, oh, that theyre in, people say, oh, its never going to last. You know, theyre not going to do very well. Youve got psg, got ac Borussia Dortmund ac milan and Borussia Dortmund after games, four points, after two games, four points, looking very so it looking very, very good. So it was night for was excellent last night for newcastle. Manchester city as well. You about also well. Ill tell you about also because see that because i could see that manchester i in the look Manchester City i in the look that youve got there, izzy man city they beat leipzig so they came through 3 1 to celtic came through 3 1 away to celtic though not so good and they lost to lazio but that was a last minute, last minute winner for leicester. I feel for brendan, for Brendan Rodgers on this because, you know, leaving leicester , going back to celtic, leicester, going back to celtic, its not about winning the league and the cup again or whatever. For him its about establishing celtic in europe and it has not gone well. Yeah, its going to, its going to be hard. I mean if they going to be hard. I mean if they go out of the Champions League then theres a they could then theres a chance they could go europa. But if go into the europa. But if theyre bottom then they, then theyre bottom then they, then theyre done. Know, he theyre done. So you know, he could he could okay. Could do okay. He could do okay. Are your favourite what are your favourite services as around country what are your favourite services is around country what are your favourite services is there|d country what are your favourite services is there any country what are your favourite services is there any particular though . Is there any particular service stations on the motonnays that you, you like . Because got the ratings for because ive got the ratings for. Have you. Hows potters bar have you. Hows potters bar doing okay, is it . Its oddly enough its not there. Its not potters bar. Its not even rated at all. Beaconsfield really good or is that just my imagination . Its like a little mini city. Beaconsfield beaconsfield and cobham theyre cobham on the i think theyre both on the m25. Both on the m25. No beaconsfields on the m4, isnt it . Yeah, right. So people isnt it . Yeah, right. So people go there on a night out. Isnt it . Yeah, right. So people go there on a night out. Yeah. Go there on a night out. Yeah. I mean its a little outing. I mean its a little outing. Its, its certainly you can never get a parking space at it. Whatever i was, i was in it, i was in it at the weekend and its £125 for a hotel room and i thought that was a bit pricey. I thought that was a bit pricey. I thought id be going for a night out if you go for a night. Well, i knew i stayed the night at a services. Well, i had a driver. I had a driver who was he had a girlfriend or various girlfriends and he would take them to show them a good time at a travelodge, at a service. Half, would that the other half, would that not for you . Well, ive not work for you . Well, ive stayed of services, but stayed in loads of services, but mainly because reporter mainly because i was a reporter , so id be stuck overnight and you id be snowed in or you know, id be snowed in or something standing on a something and standing on a motonnay bridge morning motonnay bridge all morning talking it talking about the snow. But it would sort of place where would be the sort of place where youd had to machine youd have a you had to machine where you put a in to get a where you put a coin in to get a toothbrush out. Know, one of toothbrush out. You know, one of those. Oh well, where did you get that . You get toothbrush, you get a toothbrush, you could get you could get a toothbrush, pants. But it wasnt like there was a receptionist. You could ask. It of those machines. Is there a winner then . There is a winner. There is a winner. And it doesnt surprise me. Its its. Theyre all owned by a Company Called and called westmorland. And gloucester, well gloucester, which you may well know services. Gloucester, which you may well kno i v services. Gloucester, which you may well knoi wouldnt services. Gloucester, which you may well knoi wouldnt say services. Gloucester, which you may well knoi wouldnt say itservices. Gloucester, which you may well knoi wouldnt say its isices. Gloucester, which you may well knoi wouldnt say its is this i wouldnt say its is this sponsored by them by any chance . Gloucester services well, Gloucester Services theres them theres a documentary on them now. On channel 4. Channel five . I think its got a bridge. Its double sided. Gloucester services, theyre all green. All theyre all green. You both know so much how do you both know so much about . Because we were on the roads . What is . Roads . Is that what it is . Always touring , always seeing always touring, always seeing the covered in 13,000 square mile patch own just drove non stop. So you know all of these places in the west country south wales so whos saying that song it was celine dion, wasnt it . I drove all night. I drove all night. Thats roy orbison. Thats roy orbison. Thats roy orbison. It was roy orbison. It was roy orbison. Then cindy lauper did it as well. Im not going to do. Im not going to do. Im not going to do. Im on the road to nowhere. Ive just killed. I feel as if me sports are the road to nowhere, to be honest with you. Sorry. We digress. Sorry. We digress. But football fans do use the services that oh, is that what it was . I think it was the link that was the thats why the toilets are ovennhelmed. Are they . Been a few, you and theres been a few, you know, argy bargy in know, a bit of argy bargy in some them as well, hasnt some of them as well, hasnt there . Indeed, over the years. Yes. So id just like to anybody so id just like to anybody who in services, thank you who works in services, thank you for lives so much for making our lives so much better and for People Better and for the people who clean toilets the clean the toilets in the services. Thank you very much indeed. For the worst indeed. As for the worst ones, bridgewater gordano. Indeed. As for the worst ones, britoh nater gordano. Indeed. As for the worst ones, britoh yeah. Gordano. Indeed. As for the worst ones, britoh yeah. Easton gordano. Indeed. As for the worst ones, britoh yeah. Easton in ordano. Indeed. As for the worst ones, britoh yeah. Easton in gordano. Oh yeah. Easton in gordano. I know one. Know that one. Newport pagnell sandbach hasnt kiels hasnt done well. Keele kiels history a service station history as a service station goes back decades. What makes a bad one . And well on my and it shows well on my trousers easton in gordano trousers at easton in gordano because i went voxpop some because i went to voxpop some hgv and my trousers were hgv drivers and my trousers were touching the floor and i got back in the car and i thought, whats that smell . And because the hgv drivers had got services and just had got to the services and just chucked their cup of anyway, is it early in the morning it too early in the morning a cup of what of we on your cup of what what of we on your trousers floor and it was trousers on the floor and it was puddled we everywhere and id been standing and my been standing in it and my trousers it and trousers had absorbed it and it crept up knee. It was crept up to my knee. It was a low point in my life. It soaked up. It could have been worse, could have been bad bugs. So when people are looking at you saying actually, yeah, it is, it wasnt it was is, but it wasnt me, it was someone else. It was me. It was not me. It was not me. Okay, fine. Okay, fine. 638 is the time. If youve just joined us, this is breakfast. Dont forget, as breakfast. And dont forget, as well you updated on well as keeping you updated on your online, are on your your tv online, we are on your radio as well. Top stories are these. These. The Prime Minister has announced range of policies in announced a range of policies in his yesterday , his big speech yesterday, including phasing a smoking including phasing out a smoking ban, scrapping a levels and axing the hs2 northern link. Despite vantage, Primary School children are still months behind their peers in maths and reading. Following the lockdown response to the coronavirus pandemic. Pandemic. And coming up later after 7 00, trouble for generation rent with average monthly costs for tenants across the country, excluding london, reaching a record high of £1,278 a month in london, more than double that still to come. Just stop oil are back again. Last night they invaded the stage in the west end in london on the appropriately named production of la miserables. And so thats next on headline makers. Ive never seen Les Miserables and i miserable. But you know why i dont go . Because the title is so depressing. I think life is miserable enough. Think life is miserable enough. I dont need to go to the theatre to be more miserable. Is it miserable and have you seen it . No. I thought it was good. I thought it was a french stand up comedian, Les Miserables. I didnt know who he was. Les ladies and gentlemen, here he comes. Cousin. Cousin. Im les miserable. How are you . Its im les miserable. How are you . Its never gonna take me, mother in law. Someone, please. And that was no, i never and that was it. No, i never went. Whats it . Makers. N ext next welcome back. 642 is the time. Lets bring you up to date with our front pages this morning. Heres the Times Newspaper leading with son of a pharmacist casting himself as thatchers sunak thatchers heir as sunak unveiled his plans in his conference speech, the mirror says sunak condemns the north to a future of decline as he abandons hs2 and with it, any prospect of levelling up north, leading in the sun. World cup football shock as 2030 is set to be staged on three continents and the start has britain hit the skids. The skids. Supermarket forced to put security tags on toilet rolls to end the shoplifting epidemic of toilet rolls. A headline that heck of a headune. A headline that heck of a headline. Anyway, i cant headline. Anyway, i cant complain. I just want to read the headline. No, no. No, no. Thats all. Fine. Were going through the papers this morning with the Deputy Editor of the spectator, freddie grey, and we also have the broadcaster Carol Mcgiffin. To our mcgiffin. Welcome to our breakfast newspaper. Welcome our humble little welcome to our humble little program. Very much. Program. Thank you very much. This of the big this is the big show of the big show. The big show. Lets start with you, carol, and talk about hs2. Hs2. It kind of the big chunk it was kind of the big chunk of the Prime Ministers speech yesterday, whether or not he wanted it to be. But then off the that, weve had the back of that, weve had bofis the back of that, weve had boris and David Cameron Boris Johnson and David Cameron not Prime Ministers, Boris Johnson and David Cameron not from Prime Ministers, Boris Johnson and David Cameron not from his Prime Ministers, Boris Johnson and David Cameron not from his own rime ministers, Boris Johnson and David Cameron not from his own party,iinisters, Boris Johnson and David Cameron not from his own party, both ers, but from his own party, both saying big mistake. I dont think its a mistake. I think it should never have been started in the first place. Frankly i think its a giant White Elephant. White elephant. Once youve started, do you not have to finish . Well, you started it now. Yeah, theyre to finish yeah, theyre going to finish the useless part of the the most useless part of the line, which is to london birmingham, everybody birmingham, because everybody wants birmingham wants to get to birmingham half an faster, they. Its an hour faster, dont they. Its and northern side is the one and the northern side is the one that they need. They do need that they need. They do need that northern side. But now theyve cancelled it and hes making sorts promises to making all sorts of promises to the saying oh, were the north saying, oh, were going spend 36 billion or going to spend 36 billion or whatever it is you know, whatever it is on, you know, other is what they other and this is what they should done in first should have done in the first place. They should have upgraded and the lines that they and improved the lines that they have up there because are have up there because they are should built to should have been built north to south. South. Yeah, south. North to south. Yeah, yeah, south to north. But then, i dont know, there was something the i dont know, there was sometithing the i dont know, there was sometithing with the i dont know, there was sometithing with this the i dont know, there was sometithing with this hs2 the i dont know, there was sometithing with this hs2 isthe i dont know, there was sometithing with this hs2 is ite whole thing with this hs2 is it started off being a 30 billion project. Its gone up to like 100 billion. A billion. And thats billions. Were talking thats billions. Were talking billions, millions. And billions, not millions. And people just think, oh, well, you know, its not that much in the grand of things. It grand scheme of things. It really when you when you really is. When you when you look it you think you look at it and you think you look at it and you think you look at it and you think you look at other countries in europe, especially france, has had speed so is italy had high speed rail. So is italy and spain since since 80s and spain since since the 80s and spain since since the 80s and japan its first high and japan got its first high speed rail in 1964. You know, and you just think were too late. Weve only got one. Were a small country. And frankly, i dont think we really need it. Is that part of the problem, the country thing . The small country thing . Because my that france my understanding is that france , spain, they have these huge tracts open its less tracts of open land. Its less complicated. All this obsession complicated. All this obsession with tunnels here and all the sort of arguments against it, cutting peoples gardens cutting through peoples gardens , quite densely populated, is that one the reasons that that one of the reasons that weve rubbish . I think weve been rubbish . I think perhaps little bit. Perhaps a little bit. I mean, theres people call it nimbyism. It is hard to do big infrastruc Major Projects in britain , but weve , weve kind britain, but weve, weve kind of weve, weve talked about it being a White Elephant and so on. But it is extraordinary that the tories took so long to take this decision because ive been working in westminster for quite a long time. Every body thought it was rubbish. Everybody knew it was rubbish. Everybody knew it going wrong, everybody it was going wrong, everybody knew that the spending commitments were going were getting completely of getting completely out of control but nobody did it. Control. So but nobody did it. So in a way, you know, it is courageous. All the tories going around saying, freddie, we talk about spending commitments about the spending commitments out control, totally get that i i i thought the idea was to save the money, but hes taking the money and buying votes with it. Hes saying theres £36 billion here, which im not going to spend in this northern leg, but actually im going to dish it out here so that youre all going to vote conservative. Well, i mean, i think thats a little unfair. I think what hes doing is hes hes committing to improving northern an but thought an infrastructure. But i thought weve no money. Weve either no to money build or we do have the money. Well, its the money would be a waste on hs2 and it can be better spent. And i think theres a there is a good argument for that. Whether they will do it is another question, because the real problem actually is were very actually is that were not very good doing big infrastructure good at doing big infrastructure problems Network Problems projects. So Network North, as were now calling it, is a sort of cobbled together. It a bit rushed it does feel a bit rushed reading last night. Reading through it last night. It just been it feels like theyve just been like, what shall we do . Like, oh, what shall we do . Lets do sort of room lets do sort of hotel room with ideas. With new ideas. Think. Ithink with new ideas. Think. I think well i think. I think as well because it has become the big topic of the conference and, and it really it isnt that important. There are it really it isnt that important. There are far more important. There are far more important things that should be the big topic. But it was speculation on all the time and i think theyve been gauging pubuc i think theyve been gauging public opinion. What do the pubuc public opinion. What do the public they think that public think . Do they think that we carry or should . We should carry on or we should . And then at the last minute make a decision and just say no, because knows because Everybody Knows what they conference. This big they say at conference. This big speech were going do this. Speech, were going to do this. Were to do that. Its were going to do that. Its electioneering. Blatant electioneering. Its blatant electioneering. Its blatant electioneering it electioneering. They just say it to get vote. I dont if to get the vote. I dont know if scrapping hs2 is populism. You think its. No, i do you think its. No, i think its quite an unpopular decision, possibly. As you decision, possibly. But as you say, hes been quite spreadsheet sunak doing it. Sunak grave in doing it. Well, there was a lot of talk about how only the tories could make this thing, which is bad news, which would be very unpopular manchester. Do it unpopular in manchester. Do it as going manchester as theyre going to manchester for what for the conference. What a classic actually, classic tory up. Actually, i dont think its necessarily that a up as far as the that bad a up as far as the tories are concerned because, you know, man is not as into the hs2 as its not like everybody in manchester was crying i suspect. Man unions about this mixed feelings you know they dont like tories anyway but i think it only takes 2. 5 hours, two hours, 50 minutes, i think two hours, 50 minutes, i think two hours, 50 minutes, i think two hours, eight minutes to be six minutes, eight minutes. You know, thats not long, is it . No who needs to get there any quicker. I know its. Well it depends what time kick off is. That really depends time that really depends what time kick off you know, and kick off is at. You know, and just you trains dont go into the evening, which is ridiculous. You cant you cant watch football match in watch a football match in manchester, finish at ten and get train to london. Get a train to london. Thats what it was all about all was the Surrey Branch all along. Was the Surrey Branch of Manchester United supporters. All along. Was the Surrey Branch of iwhat ester united supporters. All along. Was the Surrey Branch of iwhat ester unthink upporters. All along. Was the Surrey Branch of iwhat ester unthink freddie,s. What did you think freddie, overall the speech and other overall of the speech and other things too nice mean . I do. Things too nice to mean . I do. I mean, i think , you know, he mean, i think, you know, he talks about politician means and its a new way from him and all the rest. Yet hes the one that kept the decision to the last minute. Were saying there minute. As you were saying there and whatever. And then he had to release it. Think hes a release it. I think hes a chicken. I think he could have come could have had come out and he could have had this mind. This is what this in his mind. This is what he going announce. But he he was going to announce. But he was into this well. Was forced into this as well. What dont understand what about i dont understand his with getting his obsession with getting people mathematics people to study mathematics until theyre 18 at school. This was one of the scenes as well. Hes a nerd. Yeah. So he hes a nerd. Yeah. So he speaks to nerds. I didnt speaks to other nerds. I didnt think ive seen quite a few rishi sunak speeches. I didnt think it was bad. I thought it was one of his better ones. Its still a bit bedtime story. Not saying shes not. Know what hes you know what i mean . Hes got that of cadence. Got that kind of cadence. I want, what i want to what i want, what i want to do better than it was used to be. Dreadful. Hes got much better in a q a. Can you watch him . I cant even watch him. I cant. I cant. Its the accent. Its that smiling. Its like a smiling assassin. Everything he says, oh, im going to do this. I will be this. I will what . Youre not going to be anything because youre going to be out with it. Whatever happens. Well, ill ill mount a feeble defence of speech. Feeble defence of the speech. I think a good you know, it think it was a good you know, it was good on policy , it was good was good on policy, it was good on the serious stuff, which is what want because people what people want because people think crisis. Think britains in crisis. I think britains in crisis. I think on that, just to dissect that, was it good on policy or was he just had policy . It was axing hs2. It was axing hs2. Well, it had things smoking, axing a levels. Axing a levels. I didnt like the axing. I didnt like the axing. I didnt like the axing. I like his legacy is mr axe man, rather than i didnt hear any mention of cost of living crisis. I didnt have any mention of tax cuts, care, home crisis, nhs, nhs was. Crisis, nhs, nhs was. I mean, they were touched on, but they were, they were glossed oven but they were, they were glossed over. Im trying defend me. Over. Im trying to defend me. His wife, maybe that was well , actually a lot of people were quite cynical about that. Thought. I thought ash i thought. I thought ash carters fine. I thought carters bit was fine. I thought she thought it almost she was i thought it was almost just even the cynic in just touching even the cynic in me almost touched he me was almost touched when he said because they had said thats because they had this on long this stupid slogan on long term decisions for a better future. I think that was it. And he said , think that was it. And he said, thats the best long term ash carter best long term carter is the best long term decision have for decision i have made for a brighter future. Ching, ching, ching. Brighter future. And ching, ching, ching. Brighter future. And itching, ching, ching. Brighter future. And it sounds, hing, ching. Brighter future. And it sounds, as g, ching. Brighter future. And it sounds, as i, ching. Brighter future. And it sounds, as i say,1g. And it sounds, as i say, i made it sound cheesy, but actually i thought it was quite actually i thought it was quite a good moment and i thought, you know, oh, its know, people say, oh, its american politics. When we american style politics. When we have their and have to see their wives and stuff. I think people stuff. But thats i think people like seeing who are like seeing who people are married dont mind that at all. First thing isabel said today was she was wearing a lovely outfit, very really good. Outfit, very chic, really good. Shown anyway, ive just shown anyway, talking outfits. Talking about outfits. Talk about british i want to talk about british ainnays uniforms outfits. Ainnays uniforms and outfits. And theres a new one being issued. Whats the reaction to it . Carol its not good. I dont think, from the bar staff , first of all, because staff, first of all, because its quite cheap. Apparently. It its quite cheap. Apparently. It looks cheap. It feels cheap. And you know, theres birds have been doing this for a long time. Men can wear what they want. They can wear makeup. You know, the tattoos is everything. Personally, i want to see someone walking up and down the aircraft thats professional, that you know, a woman wearing. That you know, a woman wearing. Im not saying she has to wear a skirt, but, you know, i dont want to see a bloke walking up and down wearing a skirt. I dont know why. I just dont im Old Fashioned like that. I want to see air stewards and stewardesses looking very , very stewardesses looking very, very professional and be able to get you down that slide, that chute. If theres anything happens to the plane. These are the people that you rely on when youre flying and, you know, i i fly a lot. So you know, i do. I fly a lot. So for me, i just i dont its not a good idea. But it hasnt gone down well with the crew either. Obviously, its gone down with the well, with the non binary side of the crew and people are saying what they should saying that what they should have uniform have done is designed a uniform for the men, a uniform for the women, and a uniform for the for the non binary people who, you know, want to be whatever they want , you know, know, where does want, you know, know, where does it end . Where does it end . How it end . Where does it end . How many uniforms do you need . What is it about airlines . Why is it always airlines that are sort of trying to push fonnard with with. Yeah kind of, you know, trans dressing for their staff. I mean, you know, trans dressing for their staff. I mean, i agree about the safety thing. I know in america theres a bit of concern because of diversity commitments on pilot hiring means that actually the standards of pilot hiring have been going down now for ten, 20 to 15, 25 years. And actually theres just far more incidents now. A lot of people are now. And a lot of people are worried. One terrible plane worried. Sort one terrible plane crash because pilots are crash away because pilots are being hired based on, you know, skin colour, gender, sexuality, not can they actually fly a plane . Plane . Well, the move is to within ten years or so to have automatic planes of no pilots. Great. How would you feel about that . Oh, im getting in one of them. No, i dont want its just another deterrent. Another deterrent. Is this another way of trying to stop people from going anywhere . Right. Because that gets us to Just Stop Oil and miserable. Last night, miserable. Last night , west miserable. Last night, west end freddie, what do you think of this protest . Well its a interesting play protest . Well its a interesting play within a play, isnt it . Because Les Miserables are set in the french revolution and these Just Stop Oil protesters. Do imagine in their minds that theyre revolutionaries in theyre great revolutionaries in 200 everyone will theyre great revolutionaries in 200 back everyone will theyre great revolutionaries in 200 back them eryone will theyre great revolutionaries in 200 back themeryorthink. Theyre great revolutionaries in 200 back them eryorthink how look back on them and think how brave wonderful they were. Brave and wonderful they were. But course, everyone hates but of course, everyone hates them theyre deeply them because theyre deeply irritating , spoilt children who irritating, spoilt children who like ruining peoples fun. And it was quite good to see in the video people shouting at them, five of them being arrested. And i think you should be arrested if an evening. And if you interrupt an evening. And as dean, your your producer was saying earlier, i mean, they never do it at football grounds, do they . No. No. The reason being , we all know the reason being, we all know why stand a chance personally , i why stand a chance personally, i think theyre paid actors. Think theyre paid actors. I think theyre there to agitate and wind people up and spoil peoples fun. They hardly ever get arrested when they do get arrested, nothing ever happens. And its almost as happens. And its almost as though theyre there to create a problem which which theyre going to come up with some kind of solution for which will restrict everybody. This is what happens. This is what they do. Problem reaction, solution. Ian problem reaction, solution. Ian and i would not be surprised. You know, here we go. Carol, the conspiracy theorist. I wouldnt be surprised if it was if the government were paying them to wind people up when you see them stopping in the middle of the motonnay, i mean, that really is obstructing the traffic. And they should be arrested. They never get arrested. The police are there giving them cups of tea and going, we do tea and oh, going, can we do anything you . Its like its anything for you . Its like its been tweaked, it . Been tweaked, hasnt it . So they cant do the slow walking and various other kind of disruptive techniques. But look, they would say that this is climate emergency. See, no is a climate emergency. See, no ones any notice. Were ones taking any notice. Were not going to reach 1. 5 target on on reducing temperatures. And so they have to get the headlines. And here we are talking about it in headline makers. Yeah well, you know, when you think about it, all these protests, the public order bill i think is the thing behind all this. They want to stop their using them so that people go, yeah, yeah, yeah, lets stop the protests, their protest. Protests, stop their protest. But the but actually, what the government do, theyll just government will do, theyll just stop all protests because they dont we that dont like dissent. We know that by you know, by whats happened, you know, quite. Quite recently. And its who they affect and who they offend is the problem when you realise that that audience, theyll have been on a train, theyll have come in from kent or cambridgeshire or surrey or whatever. Its a big thing. Its a big investment. They have been maybe for a special been there maybe for a special occasion. Happens. The occasion. Then this happens. The nights off, the moments carry on. On. Terrible ruined for the night. Or was itjust. Night. Or was it just. I think it was ruined for night. I dont think it was completed, no. The actors walked off, i think, and that was it. And that they maybe you were there if you were, let us know how it unfolded for you. Can we talk about you can we talk about bedbugs . Do we have to . Because this in paris, was this outbreak in paris, it was a world isnt it . Rugby world world cup, isnt it . Rugby world cup, there. Yeah. Cup, lots of people there. Yeah. Fortunately, the royal visits just so im to. Just finished, so im glad to. King queen home okay, king and queen got home okay, but horrendous. But sounds horrendous. Connecting it to people are connecting it to fashion week. Paris fashion week. Really why. Week. I dont really know why. Know hotels are well, people know hotels are i its sort bad pr for i think its sort of bad pr for i think its sort of bad pr for i get i get a whiff in this story of kind of the british sense that theres something a bit the french. Oh, bit dirty about the french. Oh, yeah. You there . Yeah. Would you live there . Do live there. Not in you do live there. Not in paris , mind, yeah. Bedbugs paris, mind, but yeah. Bedbugs are problem. I think in in the are a problem. I think in in the south as well. But but the thing is with this whole bedbug thing that the paris arent, the french arent that dirty. I french arent that dirty. I think you might be right. No, its a prejudice, but its terrible. I do think its another thing they put in little pictures of magnified insects on the papers to scare people because im feeling itchy just listening to you scare people with another thing, carol. Back in 40 minutes freddie, back in 40 minutes time. Thank very much time. Thank you very much indeed. Lets have the. Weather good morning. Good morning. 7 00, 7 00. 7 00, 7 00. Its thursday , the 5th of its thursday, the 5th of october. Youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with Eamonn Holmes and Isabel Webster leading the news this morning. Is weve got for this is what weve got for you. The this is what weve got for you. The Prime Minister says people be exhausted people are right to be exhausted with politicians. Oh, the irony. Who are all talk and no action. Plenty of talk. In his Party Conference. Were gauging reaction to it. The day after the night before. What did you think about his policies on health, on education, on on transport that westminster is a broken system and the same goes for holyrood, cardiff bay and stormont. It is an anger , its an it is an anger, its an exhaustion with politics in particular. Politicians saying things and then nothing ever changing. Changing. The average rent for homes across the country, excluding londons reached a record high of £1,270 a month in the capital. Its more than double that. And well be debating plans to monitor and calculate your Carbon Footprint as you travel abroad. How do you feel about your holiday destinations being restricted . Depending on where youve been before war and Jonathan Vautrey . Well have your latest Weather Forecast. Weather forecast. A mixed bag of weather across the uk for the next couple of days. Join me later to find out if youll see the rain or the sunshine. Paul coyte with the reflection on last nights Champions League action and a few other things beside paul. There are a few bits and pieces. I mean, what a nice and james park as newcastle thrashed the Harlem Globetrotters of football, Paris Saint Germain. The be coming the euros are going to be coming to the cup in to britain and the world cup in 2030 going to be 2030 is its going to be everywhere , actually all over everywhere, actually all over the what was the music tonight . What was the music tonight . Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo doo. Did it . No, was old grey no, that was the old grey whistle music. Whistle test music. To what . To what . The Harlem Globetrotters do not watch the cartoon. Yes. Not watch the cartoon. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. That was it. Yeah, absolutely. That was it. There used to be a cartoon, which i thought the Harlem Globetrotters was that basketball playing . Right. Yeah, ive done oh, right. Yeah, ive done basketball with them. Basketball with them. Youve basketball with her . Harlem globetrotters. And i scored a slam dunk. Whatever you call it, its on the internet. The internet. Yes its on the internet. Yes its on the internet. Yes that up. Get that up. We want to see that. If you slam dunk with the Harlem Globetrotters, i suspect gb views gb views suspect not. Gb views gb views news. Com. Or you can tweet or x or do whatever you want on at. Or do whatever you want on at. Gb news. Our top story this morning is the Prime Ministers speech yesterday. He laid out his stall with his keynote speech at Party Conference. Yes. And there was a wide range of policy announcements. Yeah. From scrapping a levels and the hs2 link to manchester as well as outlawing cigarettes for future generations. But there was less talk about rishi sunak self declared five priorities or inflation, economy, debt waiting lists and illegal migration. In plenty of reaction coming up. But first of all, we asked a group of first time voters what their thoughts were ahead of the general election. Heres the reaction of our panel of young and undecided voters. And undecided voters. There was one section where he was sort of just going off on a little rant by himself, this conservative party, the party that legislated for same sex marriage and is investing record amounts in child care. We know that. What matters is that love cascades down the generations , love cascading down generations, love cascading down your family. Your family. Just yeah, thats just a really weird way of flowery way of saying something which i dont. Thats another thing. I dont. Thats another thing. I dont think he actually got to a point with that. I think it was a bit cringe here and there like some things he said. I feel like he was making statement. Thats where he felt like, oh, this is like a really good statement. But it wasnt giving that. Think tried quite hard i think he tried quite hard to all people in the to impress all the people in the conference under us. No more rip off degrees. No more rip off degrees. Students dont spend enough time in the classroom. Im a quarter in the classroom. Im a quarter of our children leave education without the basic literacy and numeracy. We they need to fulfil numeracy. We they need to fulfil their potential all and our students study too narrow a range of subjects. Yeah so that that really annoys me. Yeah. Yeah. I think gcse is are really good because it teaches us how to study a broad range of subjects and it gets us into some a lot of Different Things which we might be interested in and obviously things that we not be things that we might not be interested in. I think once interested in. But i think once your a levels, its a lot more personal and thats your thats actually steps actually your first steps towards university or an apprenticeship Something Like that. Everything i learnt up until i of maths is all i was 16in terms of maths is all i was 16in terms of maths is all ineeded i was 16in terms of maths is all i needed to know. I didnt need any more numeracy skills. Im happy with the got those who the skills. Ive got those who teach subjects in schools teach key subjects in schools and for the first time in our further education colleges too will receive special bonuses of up. To £30,000 tax free over the up. To £30,000 tax free over the first five years of their career. You know, this whole bonus thing for teachers is incredible. I think teachers are like the best people ever, and i think they deserve all the money in the world. But i think if youre offering that money youre only offering that money to that teaching to teachers that are teaching essential will put essential subjects, it will put teachers off from teaching the other, more artistic subjects. Patients should know when hospitals are talking about men or women, and we shouldnt get bullied into believing that people can any sex they want people can be any sex they want to be. They cant. A man is to be. They cant. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. Thats just common sense. Thats just common sense. Hes got sex and gender complete mixed up with gender. Its your social identity. Let people express themselves however they feel like they want to be. What this lacks is compassion. Compassion. Smoking places huge pressures on the nhs and costs our country. £17 billion a year. We have a chance to cut cancer deaths by a quarter significa urgently ease those pressures and protect our children and we should take it. Hes right in saying, you know, we need to stop it, but like the cause of, you know , kids and cause of, you know, kids and stuff isnt cigarettes. Its definitely the cigarettes is vaping, especially around like a university campus, like youll go just around and see everyone just having a vape instead of cigarettes. Now, smoking has been a very big problem in the past, but its not that prevalent anymore i i i mean the marketing for it as well is ridiculous. They come out with new flavours like unicorn and shake and vapes that look like ice creams, and its just its blatantly made for teenagers. So do you still vape a lot then . Yeah, in the long term, then . Yeah, in the long term, i think it is a good thing that were phasing out smoking and that. Yeah he has the right idea. I just im not really sure raising the age gap. What would you say is a better solution then . No thats for them to no idea. Thats for them to figure out. No for me. So there you go. That was their thoughts. What did you make of Prime Minister for make of the Prime Minister for his making a surprise appearance . Shes speaking for . Shes speaking for . Well, why not . Well, why not . Well, why would the Prime Ministers wife thinks just what the Prime Minister thinks. Hes just introduced she hes just introduced her. She just introduced him. Sorry. I mean, happened before. Mean, its happened before. A sarah introduced Gordon Sarah Brown introduced gordon brown he was prime brown when he was Prime Minister. I think a lot of people intrigued to know the woman might have been woman behind might have been sitting in the well. No, i dont. Ijust dont sitting in the well. No, i dont. I just dont get that that just its crass. That that is just its crass. Its cant we cant get its not we cant we cant get him past ten days or so him in the past ten days or so to make one single comment on hs2. Hes forced to make hs2. Then hes forced to make something. Yesterday so we deflect by listening deflect everybody by listening to what wifes having to say to what his wifes having to say and things. She just introduced him and said granny. Said hes his granny. Granny. Oh, no, granny, come on. You want to speak . I was the car as it i was in the car as it happened, and i didnt know who was speaking. And did for a second and i did for a second think it was like malala it was someone like malala because it sounded like a very young and i young person. And then i realised from what she was saying, oh, this must the saying, oh, this must be the prime you Prime Ministers wife. And, you know, she was just trying to paint picture of the man paint a picture of the man behind what its like. Ive got a clip of this. Lets lets hear it. Father she and i are each best friends. Were one team and i could not imagine being anywhere else but here today with all of you. But here today with all of you. I like it. I like it. Vomit. Vomit. Vomit. Make it. Make it. Why do you care whether him and her are one team or not . Is she running the country . No, shes not putting policies out. Shes not trying to claim any one team. She just said, oh, my goodness , things you get irate about. I think its sweet. I think its sweet. I think its sweet. I think it was nice. I think it was nice. What im not im not somebody whos going to be led by through the nose by. Oh, thats nice. Thats lovely. Look at her outfit. Whats about hs2 . Whats he doing about hs2 . Wheres avoiding the money . Wheres he avoiding the money . Doing of his policies will doing none of his policies will stand to close stand up to scrutiny. To close scrutiny. Disagree with scrutiny. I dont disagree with you, you can have both. Scrutiny. I dont disagree with youshe you can have both. Scrutiny. I dont disagree with youshe literally| have both. Scrutiny. I dont disagree with youshe literally did ve both. Scrutiny. I dont disagree with youshe literally did an oth. She literally did an introduction and its bit of introduction and its a bit of light relief. Mrs. You want a bit mrs. Sunak, do you want a bit of light relief . Do you want mrs. Sunak up on stage . Do you care has to say . Just care what she has to say . Just let us know. Well, you heard what our first time voters thought about the the vaping the smoking and the vaping policies also policies earlier, we also heard from john hes the from john dunn. Hes the director the uk director general of the uk vaping association. Director general of the uk vap heres association. Director general of the uk vap heres he sociation. Director general of the uk vap heres he had. Ion. Director general of the uk vap heres he had. Im going heres what he had. Im going to to take vaping 0. 6 Million People. Vaping in this country. It is the most successful way that adult quit cigarette adult smokers quit cigarette use. But i absolutely agree with the government. It is important that we make sure that these products are not getting in the hands of children , but we also hands of children, but we also need to strike that balance of not discouraging adult smokers from switching as well. So now from switching as well. So now we have plenty of laws in this country, but they arent being enforced properly. And the fines enforced properly. And the fines that stores get that are caught selling to minors are ridiculously low. Now it is encouraging that the government is talking about increasing those two on the spot fines of 2500 pounds, which actually is ouridea 2500 pounds, which actually is our idea that weve had for the past four years. But we want those fines to be a minimum of £10,000 per instance. And i also £10,000 per instance. And i also am encouraged to see that the government is talking about licencing or restricting where these products can be sold. Again thats one of our ideas. So were quite willing to work with the government. Were not with the government. Were not trying to get a new generation hooked on on vaping or smoking. Were here to make sure that adults have a product that works to make sure that they switch away from a deadly product that kills 550 people every day. Kills 550 people every day. You dont think then that unit corn vapes or vanilla shake vapes are aimed at youngsters. They are for adults. In your they are for adults. In your view, you dont think that you are explicitly targeting young people . No what i believe is that that these products should not be allowed on the market. And one of the things that weve pointed out to the government is that the mhra , who regulates nicotine the mhra, who regulates nicotine vapes in this country, does not look at these naming criteria. Look at these naming criteria. They dont look at the packaging. They dont look at the design of the products. And they should be doing that during their initial review of the product, not when it actually gets into the market. And then its up to trading standards to try and, you know, cut this out from from store to store. So we know where the loopholes are here. The legitimate industry is not trying to put these products out there. These products are generally coming in in the legal vapes that arent even allowed to be sold in this country. But theres inadequate steps being taken to stop them getting into the country. And thats where we need to work very closely with the government stop that. The government to stop that. Yeah, so you seem a big yeah, so you seem to be a big growth john, and growth industry, john, and benefiting from what the Prime Minister said there. Cant minister said there. I cant help seeing everywhere in help but seeing everywhere in the high street vape shops pppi9 p the high street vape shops popping up right, left and Centre Though i just want to know for people watching or listening, whats their experience of vaping . Have they switched from cigarettes to what they what john says is they believe . What john says is much or vaping . Let much safer option or vaping . Let us know this morning or did vaping get you in to stronger stuff like cigarettes . Stuff like cigarettes . Yeah. And im interested. You yeah. And im interested. You know, youre talking about wanting to work closely with the government. Were heading into an Election Year next year. An Election Year next year. Look, if the polls are to be believed and you know, the polls have been wrong in the past, but it looks like labour will probably theyve probably win next year. Theyve come they come out and said that they would actually because this would actually because this would be a free vote put fonnard by rishi sunak, would by rishi sunak, they would actually objection to actually have no objection to him down smoking him clamping down on smoking and then vaping. So is then eventually on vaping. So is that you the wind that the way you think the wind is blowing and therefore, you know, a Business Model, know, from a Business Model, youve thinking youve got to start thinking this actually to be this is actually going to be impinging on our Business Model this is actually going to be imthejing on our Business Model this is actually going to be imthe future. Our Business Model in the future. Well, i dont believe so. We still have million in still have 6 Million People in this country smoke. Now, this country that smoke. Now, what need to do is encourage what we need to do is encourage those smokers to move away from smoking, will eventually smoking, which will eventually kill them to a product that is far safer. And i dont care whether thats vaping, whether thats nicotine patches, gums , thats nicotine patches, gums, whatever moves them away is the important thing. But what we important thing. But what we know is that in the uk and worldwide vaping is the most successful way for people to do that. And the reason that is, is because people enjoy it. But be it replicates that smoking experience and thats why it works. So we need to be very careful that we dont disturb that or the government has no hope of it getting anywhere close to its 2030 smoke free britain. Britain. Keith in redditch says about this im fed up with vaping. They seem to think the rules dont apply to them. Vaping in pubs, vaping in public transport, also vaping on trains and railway stations. And railway stations. Ive tried vaping, its gross , says george. That is the issue now, not smoking. Its designed to get young people hooked and become life long vapers. Good morning to bill and botswana , bill said. Botswana, bill said. I was smoking 40 plus cigarettes a day ten years ago. One day i was smoking. The next day i was vaping and ive never had a cigarette since. Im 73 now. Okay. Okay. Okay. Watched in botswana. Thats the first time weve been contacted. Made from botswana. I love our global reach these days. I didnt tell you i was last friday. I was at a restaurant and i was sitting outside this cafe and in central london, and this woman came up to me and said in an australian accent, which i cant do you no good. I or whatever. She said, are you George Clooney . I said, no, im Eamonn Holmes, the humble irish broadcaster on gb news breakfast. And said, yes , of breakfast. And she said, yes, of course are. She said, we course you are. She said, we want every night in sydney. Want you every night in sydney. How funny. And i said, and i said, yeah. She said, the family gather around and we watch it while were having dinner. Well, good morning. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night, guys in sydney and that was that was and so that was that was interesting, it . And so that was that was inteyeah. G, it . Yeah. Yeah. So were going to talk about what life is like in the uk now if you are a renter, though, it might not affect you in botswana or still interesting or sydney, but still interesting because showing because figures are showing that the rent the average advertised rent outside reached outside london has now reached a record high of nearly £1,300 per month. Thats just in the Third Quarter this year. Its 10 quarter of this year. Its a 10 increase from time last increase from this time last year. Yean take in london, i mean, which is a different world, 2600, 2600 a month. Thats the average rent, 12. 1. 12. 1 higher than last year. Lets go to russell quirk. Russell as we know, is a property expert. Russell, why are these rents rising . Yeah are these rents rising . Yeah morning as well. Morning, eamonn. Well, a perfect storm, really a kind of collision of circumstances, i guess youd call it. You have, on the one hand, lots more demand than weve ever seen, frankly, and thats a combination of things. Obviously, we have a growing population. We have People Living longer here, but also because the housing market, as in the sales side of the market, is seeing an absence of buyers because as you know, things are uncertain around house prices and therefore people perhaps not buying as they would have been a yean buying as they would have been a year, 2 or 3 years ago. So those people instead are turning to the rental market. So youve got demand increasing quite significantly. A lot of agents in britain now saying that the amount of enquiry as theyre getting is Something Like three times was before the times what it was before the pandemic. The average rate of enquiry now across britain for letting agencies 25 tenants enquiry for every property that is listed for rent. But the is listed for rent. But the other problem youve got of course, is the other side of that kind of supply demand balance is the fact that supply so the amount of rental Properties Available has also dropped. So the numbers state that theres about 35 fewer Properties Available. So youve got demand up, supply Properties Available. So youve got demand up , supply down, got demand up, supply down, theres only one inevitable consequence of that , which is consequence of that, which is that prices would increase significantly as indeed they are. So whos renting richer people . Well, theyre going to people . Well, theyre going to be poorer after this , of course, be poorer after this, of course, or are foreigners . Or are foreigners . No, i dont think foreigners make up a huge part of the demand for rental in the uk. I mean, its a combination. Its lots of people that either dont want to buy a house at the moment or indeed cant, you know, either through uniform ability or through bad credit. Et cetera. The fundamental issue here, eamonn, of course, is and weve rehearsed this, i think you and i and certainly me on this programme, many , many this programme, many, many times, which is that not only is there a shortage of property be not for sale, but also for not just for sale, but also for rent, but actually over the last few years, the government for reasons known only to itself , reasons known only to itself, has decided to, in effect persecute landlords. So thats why theres now 35 fewer Properties Available because over the last 2 or 3 years, landlords have had their Capital Gains tax allowances reduced, theyve had tax relief on their mortgages reduced, theyve been threatened with this whole so called no fault evictions legislation, which is being kicked down the road. So as a consequence, landlords have decided that theyre just simply going to put their money elsewhere for what we need to do is incent devise landlords to want to buy properties, to rent them out so that actually we end up sufficient amount of up with a sufficient amount of properties to furnish the demand from tenants. Properties to furnish the demand froryeah,|nts. Properties to furnish the demand froryeah, |nts. Russell, properties to furnish the demand froryeah,|nts. Russell, is there yeah, but russell, is there no news story in here at no good news story in here at all . Clearly its really awful if you are a renter. But youre saying landlords are being if you are a renter. But youre sajheavily landlords are being if you are a renter. But youre sajheavily penalised; are being if you are a renter. But youre sajheavily penalised ate being if you are a renter. But youre sajheavily penalised at thezing so heavily penalised at the moment, not profitable for moment, its not profitable for them if supply them anymore. But if supply is so and so demand is so huge so huge and so demand is so huge and supply is so scarce, then those that do have properties, presumably they are making tidy profits with the kind of rents theyre charging now . Well no. So if rents are up 9 per annum, which they are for, you know, those same landlords also have buy to let mortgages. A lot of them do. And therefore those mortgages those landlords mortgages for those landlords have in so have also increased in cost. So yes, theyre getting higher yes, theyre getting a higher what yield. So the what we would call yield. So the amount of, you the amount of, you know, the percentage theyre getting on a monthly basis as a monthly and yearly basis as a return Asset Investment return on their Asset Investment. Return on their Asset Investment , if you like. But but but the problem is with landlords, because theres been this salami slicing of kind of negativity from the government, you know, its been literally one thing after another. Know, had after another. You know, we had the spectre of epc c , which now the spectre of epc c, which now thanks to another u turn by rishi sunak as a consequence of his net zero retreat land lords wont now have to have their property stock rated at epc. But if they had have done and that was the announcement two years ago, they were going to have to spend £10,000 per property in a in addition to losing all of the other financial benefits they had. Soi other financial benefits they had. So i guess point is, if had. So i guess my point is, if we to fix the rental crisis we want to fix the rental crisis and it is a crisis, you cant do that much about the demand increasing. But what the increasing. But what the government is a build government could do is a build more houses and b incentivise more houses and b incentivise more landlords by way of tax relief. Lets say , to ensure relief. Lets say, to ensure that there was more stock to go around. But as ever, im afraid the government just simply doesnt listen and it doesnt understand. And the housing understand. And the housing market, which is why theres such a shortage of properties for and to rent. For sale and to rent. Well summed up. Russell, thank you very much indeed. Property russell quirk property expert russell quirk there. Government does not there. The government does not listen. Never gets me , whichever listen. Never gets me, whichever the government is, whoever the government is, that why do we not build houses . Why do we not . Not build houses . Why do we not . What is the problem . Thats terrible. Terrible shortage for so many people , which drives so many people, which drives those prices up. And we talk about 1200, £1,300, average around the country. But over £2,000 a month. Average rental in london on believable. I mean, thats what, £25,000 you add on what people are paying for fuel, what people are paying for fuel, what people are paying for train tickets, what people are paying for food, you wonder, is it for food, and you wonder, is it more expensive in the 70s than now . Answer to me is blatantly obvious. Its really tough out there, for the young. There, especially for the young. Lets take a look at some of the other big stories coming into the newsroom the time. At the newsroom at the time. At 720. This is the moment. 720. And this is the moment. Just stop. Oil protesters disrupted a performance of Les Miserables end miserables at the west end in london. Members activist london. Members of the activist group themselves to the group locked themselves to the stage, to stop stage, forcing actors to stop their people their performance. Five people have arrested and will be have been arrested and will be discussing this throughout the morning. Morning. A man who died after being attacked by an xl bully dog in sunderland has been named by Northumbria Police as ian langley. Police say the owner of langley. Police say the owner of the dog has been arrested on suspicion of murder. Suspicion of murder. And the french transport minister says sniffer dogs are being deployed to inspect trains for bedbugs. Extra cleaning has been introduced on the eurostar as well. This is after an outbreak of them in the french capital and it follows an emergency meeting of major operators concerns spread operators as concerns spread across the country. Fumigation Companies Reported increasing demands for their products, while rail passengers are insisting on standing rather than risking a bite by sitting on seats. Bugs. What about the on seats. Bugs. What about the bug in your own bed . It made me laugh this morning when i saw this headline on the front of the mail and it says, why . It doesnt matter if you dont fancy your other half anymore. Doesnt it matter . Why doesnt it matter . Why doesnt it matter . Well, apparently theyve been doing of loads of doing a survey of loads of mainly women saying if you dont fancy your partner, why are you still and theyve all still with them . And theyve all basically well, because still with them . And theyve all basical lots well, because still with them . And theyve all basical lots of well, because still with them . And theyve all basical lots of other because still with them . And theyve all basical lots of other reasons. I theres lots of other reasons. I like not just like my partner. Its not just about that. Things like raising children together, finding them, your best friend and shared experiences, all of that. But if experiences, all of that. But if youre between the ages of 45 and 54, theres two thirds chance that you dont fancy a partner anymore. More so maybe your partner is a bed bug. So i thought that was quite interesting. But also the fact that you want them to bite you in bed, is that what you know, whether theyre bugging you, you know, i just think it changes, doesnt it . Whats attractive when you first meet someone, you want to rip their clothes perhaps rip their clothes off . Perhaps when together when youve been together longer, you know, when you see how they with your kids how good they are with your kids or they are in or how funny they are in a social setting thats where you find the most attractive. Find them the most attractive. Saying so youre saying that replaces a physical relationship . What makes you go . What makes you go . So rather have that so youd rather have that than a physical relationship saying you on more. Seeing all of that. Yeah okay. Changes. I dont think you want to rip peoples clothes off when youve been together for 30 years. The moment you stop being physical with your partner, you should break up. I think its trouble. Well, i think its trouble. Well, i think its trouble. Is trouble. I think it is trouble. I think it is trouble. 66 of people dont fancy their partner anymore. That is sad. Very, very sad. That is sad. Very, very sad. You . Is that you . Is that you . The weather is going to be very over the weekend. Very good over the weekend. Jonathan with this. Jonathan vautrey with this. There. Very good hello there. Very good morning. Jonathan vautrey morning. Im Jonathan Vautrey here with your gb news Weather Forecast met forecast provided by the met office. Definitely a mixed picture across the during picture across the uk during today. Weve already got rain spreading into parts of Northern Ireland. Wet, ireland. Really quite a wet, damp start the day here that damp start to the day here that is into western is pushing its way into western parts scotland and then will parts of scotland and then will eventually of eventually reach parts of northern as Northern England and wales as well. Southeastern areas of well. But southeastern areas of england even far england and even the far north east the north east of scotland in the northern isles, staying largely dry for most of the day with some as well. Well some sunny spells as well. Well be Eastern England that some sunny spells as well. Well be thosEastern England that some sunny spells as well. Well be those higherengland that some sunny spells as well. Well be those higher temperatures, sees those higher temperatures, though, generally reaching around 19 c. A bit cooler where you are stuck underneath the rain and particularly for northeast scotland, around 12 c there, quite gusty at times. There, quite gusty at times. Some gales around the irish sea, coastal areas that rain there will spread its way eastwards as we head throughout this evening and few and overnight. Eventually a few drabs, their way across drabs, pushing their way across southeast well. But southeast areas as well. But most turning dry most places largely turning dry as into the second half as we head into the second half of the night. Still just some random their way random showers pushing their way through. A of cloud through at times. A lot of cloud around, though, still the around, though, and still the breeze so that breeze in place. So that will help mix the air and prevent help mix up the air and prevent our temperatures dropping too far us seeing far at all. Most of us seeing quite a mild night around 14, 15 c. We then see this linger rain push way into rain start to push its way into parts of scotland throughout friday. This as it heads friday. This pulse, as it heads in on in the afternoon in later on in the afternoon as well, quite in later on in the afternoon as well, and quite in later on in the afternoon as well, and persistent quite in later on in the afternoon as well, and persistent rain. |uite in later on in the afternoon as well, and persistent rain. So e heavy and persistent rain. So worth watching out for that. But again, fairly fine dry start again, a fairly fine dry start and end to the day across southern with some sunny southern areas with some sunny spells well. Spells in there as well. Temperatures beginning to climb with airflow with that southerly airflow around even as we around 21 c, even higher as we head weekend. Enjoy head into the weekend. Enjoy your by by. Your weekend by by. Well, still to come, should people be denied air travel because of their Carbon Footprint . Well be debating that. N ext next much in the scene youre about to book flights for your favourite holiday destination. Favourite holiday destination. And then youre told you cant go. Why cant you go . Cant go. Why cant you go . Because your Carbon Footprint for the year so far exceeds a certain limit. Well, the holiday company, intrepid travel, has suggested that could become a reality and we could be forced to use so called carbon passports to make us greener tourists. Good idea or a bad idea . Good idea or a bad idea . Do you support the idea because it protects the planet or are you against it because it might restrict your freedom of movement . Might restrict your freedom of mowellnt . Might restrict your freedom of mowell ,t . Might restrict your freedom of mowell , joining us to discuss well, joining us to discuss this is the senior meteorologist, who meteorologist, jim dale, who says could be an option and says it could be an option and author of energise a future for energy innovation, James Woodhouse , have i said that woodhouse, have i said that right, james . It doesnt matter, says the idea is anti democratic. Good morning to you both. I cant bear to get it wrong, so please let me correct me. James woodhouse. Woodhouse an i can do it. I can manage that. Lets start with you, james. You were outraged at james. Then you were outraged at this on basis . This suggestion. On what basis . Im never outraged about. Im never outraged about. Come well Carbon Footprints come on. Well Carbon Footprints is about a million. 10 million. Calculate metres out there on google. All because nobody can google. All because nobody can agree what a Carbon Footprint really is. So thats the first problem. Whos to going do the monitoring and on what basis . Monitoring and on what basis . You know, weve got enough state control with ulez, with all kinds of restrictions on movement already. And thirdly, its so much focussed on the past. Its about what you did, not about what youre going to do, not about the fun that you could have or the Business Travel you will need or travel that you will need or helping out an ailing relative in new york. What are we supposed to do . Road to new york when theres an emergency . It just wont do. Its repressive. Just wont do. Its repressive. Its draconian, and its not going to fly because we were debating carbon ration cards back in 2006. Ive got the clips of me in a rival channel discussing rationing of travel. Just then, nobody will wear it. You think that it could be a possibility . It could be a reasonable idea . No. No no, no, reasonable idea . No. No no, no, no, no. Im talking to jim. No, no. Im talking to jim. Yeah. Think weve got to go back to basics. Heyman, good morning to you. Um the reason this is happening is because the world is heating up at an extraordinary rate. Weve just got the september figures in for the globe. They the average this is day and night, 16. 3, eight degrees c, which is one degree, virtually 1 degrees above the all time average and nought point five degrees c above the previous. Thats like you saying bolt coming out of retirement and beating the hundred metres by a second. If you get my point in the drift. So thats the reason why this is on the agenda now. Im not this is the now. Im not saying this is the best solution. Intrepid travel best solution. Intrepid travel actually in their spiel are suggesting that well actually be flying less to these 2 to 2 destiny oceans that are so hot that we cant even you know, we dont want to be there 40 degrees sitting there for a week. You aint going to enjoy it very much. So its going to be much more, much more short, short term flights, if you like, or even boats or whatever, going to places that that are much to places that are that are much nearer temperate and what nearer and temperate and what have you. So this idea here is oneidea have you. So this idea here is one idea thats been floating , one idea thats been floating, and im not necessarily saying that this is the best idea. You know, why . Because the culprits for where we are at this moment in time, roll it back all the way to the fossil fuel companies. Thats where the problem lies. And if youre problem lies. And if youre going to tax anybody, start their thought from you. James, as well. James, as well. Its nice to feint and attack the shells and the bps. But the fact is that this proposal by intrepid traveller, is it insipid travel and a report by the futile laboratory. I mean the futile laboratory. I mean the future laboratory, you know, it just it is so demeaning to expect normal people to abandon their holidays and sun themselves in the netherlands rather than in the mediterra. Rather than in the mediterra. And im from the netherlands and, you know, people like sun in this country, theyre not wrong either way. But jim, it wrong either way. Butjim, it doesnt wrong either way. But jim, it doesnt even take into james. It doesnt take into account the Business Model of people who commute around this country, who use london as the capital, but live in scotland or wales ireland. And they are wales or ireland. And they are constant travellers and theres a whole economy based on people flying in and out of london, which would require a complete rethink. Well, thats quite right. Thats one of the things thats completely neglected in the hs2 debate , which is the jobs that debate, which is the jobs that are going to be lost by cancelling that travel link. And, you know, we rely on thousands jobs at heathrow thousands of jobs at heathrow and elsewhere. What do the proponents of this ridiculous idea have to say about the redundancies that would follow from it . Okay. We have to leave it okay. We have to leave it there. Dale james there. Jim. Dale james widdowson, you both very widdowson, thank you both very much indeed. Paul coyte. Lets find out paul coyte. Lets find out sports wise , what have we got to sports wise, what have we got to talk to us about . Well, i think the footballers probably talk to us about . Well, i think the fo tonallers probably talk to us about . Well, i think the fo to need; probably talk to us about . Well, i think the fo to need carbon bably talk to us about . Well, i think the fo to need carbon passports going to need carbon passports because that because fifa have announced that the going to be all the world cup is going to be all over place frankly. Over the place quite frankly. So world cup 2030, theyve announced fifa. Dont know announced fifa. Oh, i dont know about no matter what about you, but no matter what fifa say, i just can never trust it. Its all about money. Its all about money. Its all about money. It always this time, johnny always is. So this time, Johnny Infantino because its infantino has said because its the 100th anniversary of the first world cup, which was being played theyre going played in uruguay, theyre going to some games in uruguay, to play some games in uruguay, but to play but theyre also going to play in paraguay. And theyll also play in paraguay. And theyll also play in argentina. The first three games of the world cup will be there and the rest of the world cup will be played in spain, portugal and morocco. So try and work that one out. Well, unless its about money and votes , you know, to keep all votes, you know, to keep all these nations countries happy. Well, you know, the next one, theyve already opened up to say, right, were ready to take bids now for 20, 34. Within the hourin bids now for 20, 34. Within the hour in saudi arabia. Were straight in there. So i dont straight in there. So i dont think theres any doubt whether thats be im surprised thats going to be im surprised thats going to be im surprised that theyve even with the euros, because the euros theres the other tournament that people are talking about, which is euro 28. Britain had bid for that. 28. So britain had bid for that. So all the british countries and the republic of ireland as well. But the reason we will get it , because its actually , because its not actually announced tuesday is announced until tuesday is because nobody else has actually bid turkey were in it bid for it. Turkey were in it and it was out of turkey or Great Britain and ireland. And then turkey have now said, well, you know what, were going to go in italy. Therefore in with italy. So therefore thats exactly its going thats exactly where its going to 28 is going to be. So euro 20, 28 is going to be. So euro 20, 28 is going to here. To be here. Im not a fan of all this splitting up in Different Countries either, because, you know, were able have know, when you were able to have it, in mexico or the it, you know, in mexico or the usa spain or espana, 82, usa or spain or espana, 82, whatever, and you know, it gives you a flavour of the country and the atmosphere , the culture and the atmosphere, the culture and all that sort of thing. Whereas this and everywhere. And the theme tune is always something to the something to do with the country, what country, isnt it . So what are they going to do . Yeah, you know, world cup 78 know, like world cup 78 and argentina guitar. Argentina and the guitar. A world cup. It was. It was. Yeah, it was. It was a great world cup. But it needs to. I mean, thats one good thing. Probably about it being in qatar last year or the start of the year the that it of the year was the fact that it was i mean, thats the was so close. I mean, thats the probably one thing that probably one good thing that everybody is that you everybody would say is that you could all different, could go to all the different, whereas now youre going to be travelling here, there and everywhere. You could have england over its england playing over there. Its just the just and also theres the qualification. Theres only going teams that can going to be two teams that can qualify for it. So theyve got to try and work out because usually host nation would usually the host nation would get think get an automatically think of the that. The Carbon Footprint for that. Im worried about. Thats what im very worried about. Paul thank you much about. Paul thank you very much indeed. About. Paul thank you very much indetill come, stay with us, still to come, stay with us, were going speaking to were going to be speaking to the secretary, mark the transport secretary, mark harper, just a few moments harper, in just a few moments time infamous time about the now infamous scrapping northern of scrapping of the northern leg of hs2. Theres help for households. Are you over state pension age . If your weekly income is below £201. 05, or £306. 85 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. Its worth, on average, £3,500 a year, and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus cost of living payments. Right were going to go through the papers today and the headlines in them. Freddie grey, Deputy Editor of the spectator, and Carol Mcgiffin all time round legend. Very good to have you legend. Very good to have you both here. Carol, do you want to start with a ulez camera . The times are reporting that the right camera was put in the wrong place. Wrong place. Well , the whole of the ulez well, the whole of the ulez thing, this is about fines. Theyre not going to enforce the fines for those wrongly positioned cameras. But when the truth is that they havent actually enforced so many fines, now its like, how are they ever going to catch up with them . But the thing is, people shouldnt pay the thing is, people shouldnt pay these fines. And, you know, you know, im not advocating breaking law. I would never breaking the law. I would never do that. I mean, i do do that. But i mean, i do support the people that are cutting these these cameras down. I wouldnt do it. Obviously i wouldnt. Because if i that, id get arrested i said that, id get arrested and im going to say it, but and im not going to say it, but i it because its i do support it because its wholly wrong. The whole thing wholly wrong. The whole thing about wrong. Nobody about the ulez is wrong. Nobody wants the sadiq khan wants it. And the way sadiq khan keeps going telling keeps going around telling everyone that thousands of people dying from the people are dying from the quality air in london and quality of the air in london and its all absolute bs. Its total rubbish and its about raising revenue and theyve got these fines coming out and no ones paying fines coming out and no ones paying them and nobody seems to seems to care. What are they going to do, put all those people in prison . Theres thousands of them now. These thousands of them now. These ones theyve admitted theyve put in the wrong place. I mean, what are the cameras . The camera, isnt it . What do you mean . Youve put it in the wrong place . It just does it. Place . I mean, itjust does it. None of it makes any sense. And the air quality in london is actually quite good. Theyve been quite well. Yes, it is certainly is it . Yes, it is certainly not reaching w. H. O. Standards world health organisation. Yeah. No, it is nitrates. No, it is. It is nitrates. There are there lots of there are there are lots of reports journalists reports from journalists who have with the air have been around with the air quality monitors monitoring the air london, even city air in london, even in the city of london congested parts. Of london in congested parts. And as long as doesnt go and as long as it doesnt go above whatever that that above ten, whatever that that reading then its fine and reading is, then its fine and its always fine. It might be fine for you. But it might be fine for you. But for anybody with asthma or with emphysema or any sort of lung, it doesnt kill thousands of people. Isabel we dont know because never had the kind because weve never had the kind of air quality we have of air quality that we have today, the impact will be today, what the impact will be on lungs. They say on the young lungs. They say that are smaller of that lungs are smaller of children, are that are children, that are that are growing london and of growing up in london and of course, weve had the little girl on birth girl who on her birth certificate, it referenced one person, one person. Of theres quite a lot of scientific debate air scientific debate about air quality. But mean, generally, quality. But i mean, generally, since 19th century, london quality. But i mean, generally, sin quality 9th century, london quality. But i mean, generally, sin quality hascentury, london quality. But i mean, generally, sin quality has improved ndon air quality has improved gradually time, and gradually over time, and its kept but there are kept improving. But there are different ways of measuring it. I know that. I think whats interesting about this , just how interesting about this, just how much everyone hates it and just how effective it could be for the tories. As you know, sadiq the tories. As you know, sadiq khan recent polling suggesting sadiq is in danger of sadiq khan is in danger of losing london. London is an incredibly labour city. Now that would be a staggering loss for labour. I would be a staggering loss for labour. I dont think that will happen. I think hell find a way of winning. I dont think theres a credible enough alternative to him of the tory him in terms of the tory candidate seems be candidate who seems to be getting herself in all sorts of hot water. Well, mean. Yes, well, i mean. Yes, well, i mean. Well, think she said some well, i think she said some quite sensible things, but but i think shes i mean, i think she will struggle to beat sadiq khan. You know, polling khan. But you know, polling has shown a real, real shown that ulez is a real, real killer for labour for and and the government could stop it. The government could stop it. Have the right to yeah. They have the right to stop it, theyre not stop it, but theyre not stopping and why not . Why stopping it. And why not . Why not . They how unpopular it not . They know how unpopular it is. Know how much people is. They know how much people cant it affects cant they know how it affects the poorest people in london. You know, who cant afford to upgrade their cars. They cant, upgrade their cars. They cant, you know, go around, go around north london. Theres any north london. Theres hardly any cameras, an cameras, but everyones got an electric because there are electric car because there are so many people who can afford an electric car. Do you think . What do you think . What do you think . Just done an interview weve just done an interview about the ones holiday about the that ones holiday could depending on could be restricted depending on how many miles youve clocked up flying around the world in that yean oh, yean oh , give me strength. Oh, give me strength. Oh, give me strength. Honestly. I mean, its another one of those things. This this will happen. I guarantee this will happen. Guarantee this will happen. People will have carbon allowances and if they use them up, theyve already said it out loud on the wef have been saying it for a long time and if people dont use their carbon allowance then they can sell it to rich people so they can go around in their private jets and then Everybody Wins because the poor people money from the people can get money from the rich people for not flying. And this they want do. This is what they want to do. They want stop people flying. They want to stop people flying. They want to stop people flying. They people on they dont want people going on holiday. Dont want people holiday. They dont want people travelling. Want travelling. They dont want people their cars. It people getting in their cars. It could be ulez. People getting in their cars. It couimwe ulez. People getting in their cars. It couim just. Ez. People getting in their cars. It couim just trying to balance im just trying to balance this the moment this because at the moment everyone to be all of the everyone seems to be all of the same opinion. So its my role justin same opinion. So its my role just in case the viewers think this is personal opinion, it this is a personal opinion, it is role to try and balance is my role to try and balance this. Luck. Okay there this. Good luck. Okay we there is argument were is the argument that were seeing unprecedented wildfires across northern america. Well, its i mean, you talk about there being no Scientific Consensus about air quality in the london, is the in london, there is Scientific Consensus about there being crisis. The being a Climate Crisis. The cause might be debated, cause of it might be debated, but is legitimate question but it is a legitimate question about we to do about what are we going to do about what are we going to do about for future generations about it for future generations and has part of and air travel has to be part of that debate. It might be too draconian say should have draconian to say we should have a passport, but could it a carbon passport, but could it not traffic light not be like a traffic light system, on your food . You system, like on your food . You make an informed decision on what youre going to consume and eat. You same eat. Perhaps you do the same when to going on holiday. I think mean, i try not to i think i mean, i try not to express opinions about the Climate Crisis because i just express opinions about the climaunderstand ause i just express opinions about the clima understand thee i just express opinions about the clima understand the science and dont understand the science and i many people do. I dont think many people do. I think interesting that think whats interesting is that its proposals this its often proposals like this that things, which is to that get get things, which is to target individuals. The target individuals. One of the things would most things that would be most effective in bringing down carbon levels is a carbon tax on goods so every that goods so that every good that comes a tax comes into the country has a tax on it based on how much carbon has been to produce it. Has been used to produce it. That a lot of the that would change a lot of the way the Global Economy works. If various countries it, it various countries did it, it would bring carbon would bring down Carbon Emissions because there wouldnt be of goods. Be so Much Movement of goods. There be more manufacturing. It would price it would increase price things, probably. People dont seem to want but people dont seem to want to do because you want to do things because you want cheap goods from and that to do things because you want cheap have; from and that to do things because you want cheap have; fhuge and that to do things because you want cheap have; fhuge carbon nd that would have a huge Carbon Footprint that would then be footprint and that would then be penalise the poor. Again, none of measures again, none of these measures will because will be successful because unfortunately its expensive to change habits, especially through measures. Change habits, especially through it measures. Change habits, especially through it is. Measures. Well, it is. Well, it is. But then but then think but then but then i think what people resent is what people really resent is being targeted lets say being targeted for lets say they happen to have a lifestyle that they travel that means that they travel a lot. Thats not necessarily rich people. Of people fly. I people. A lot of people fly. I think, yeah, i think i think people resent the sort of the targeting at the individual rather than sort of a more macro thing, especially when other countries like china and india are most the are creating most of the emissions and still emissions that and theyre still building stations. Building power stations. , but oil fired power yeah, but oil fired power stations like theyre going out of fashion, you know. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. Okay. Yeah thats an okay. Thats. Yeah thats an argument you have until argument that you can have until the end of, until the end of days. But personally you do see it now. You see when you order something from amazon, you see this carbon your this is how much carbon your delivery. You go on, delivery drivers use. You go on, you flight. If you go you book a flight. If you go down page of actual down the page of the actual booking confirmation, it tells you many it is. You how many it is. Of that, how many. All of that, how many. All of that, how many. And just think its guesswork. Rubbish. Rubbish. It its to make you know, to make them look good and make them all look good and clean it. But kyle, we clean about it. But kyle, we take a story thats take this now to a story thats in the eye and there is a fee. I dont know where this is of no detail of where this is, but a fee of 5 fee if you dont clear your plate at a restaurant. Now, this is in france, honestly, france, theyre leading the way. This is what we have to concentrate on, not stopping people from flying, but stopping people from flying, but stopping people from flying, but stopping people wasting stuff. And stop this consumerism. Stop people having things that they dont need. And then just the un chucking them, all this plastic stuff that comes from china and people keep renewing things rather than repairing them. This is what is damaging, i think , to is what is damaging, i think, to the planet. And food waste is to me is the worst crime ever. No food should ever be wasted. And there is so much food wasted. So this restaurant in brittany , this restaurant in brittany, theyve theyve imposed. Lets talk i mean, i know, for instance, this restaurant portions in ireland are three times the size of what they are in london, for instance. And someone else may be able to comment on that. I think it is a waste. I think its terrible. I agree with you. But but say you dont like the food. Say the food comes out and you think, i dont like this, i dont want that was my big concern. This means that the restaurant could get away with serving the most disgusting food and youd have eat it. And youd have to eat it. Or youd to pay yeah, youd have to pay more. Yeah, its a ,5. Fine. Okay this is a buffet restaurant. Theres two restaurants are doing it, restaurants that are doing it, and buffet and theyre both buffet restaurants. Is the restaurants. And this is the problem buffets, right . Restaurants. And this is the probler go buffets, right . Restaurants. And this is the problergo around ets, right . Restaurants. And this is the problergo around ets, ri so . Restaurants. And this is the probler go around ets, ri so fast, people go around them so fast, you sometimes need speed you need sometimes need speed bumps going because its bumps going around because its like, stop piling your plate and the plate filled like the plate is filled up like a jenga thing. And then they just jenga thing. And then they just dont eat it. So a complete dont eat it. So its a complete and waste. And buffets are and utter waste. And buffets are the kind of places for the worst kind of places for that because people just want to get their moneys worth. And they put it on their plate they just put it on their plate more than their money. Exactly. I had a buffet do it and i had a buffet to do it sunday a buffet sunday morning, a buffet breakfast at a hotel. Breakfast at at a hotel. Right. And i swear you, right. And i swear to you, i have never tasted anything as foul in my life. And it was scrambled egg when its been there for ages. On the hot. On the hot. No, no, no, no. This was made obviously of powder how they used to do in the Second World War or something. Right so you put your mouth then it put it in your mouth and then it disintegrates like. Like some sort is what we have. Sort of kids is what we have. Kids have these sherbets or something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It just bubbled in my mouth. Itjust bubbled in my mouth. So it was bad. I then offered so it was so bad. I then offered it people who were around it to the people who were around the table with me and say, please taste this. And they all thought the same. Thought exactly the same. So hotels say, hotels are charged with, say, making breakfast. Its buffet breakfasts at the cheapest price even breakfasts at the cheapest price ever. So theyre given like £0. 72 or so. And then they charge you £5, 19 for it. And it is it is unbelievable. So that would be a case in question where i would have had to have i think if you ban buffets. Really . Really . I do. Yeah. Well, i find particularly if hotels if you stay in a hotel for a week and you get sort of familiar with how theyre doing it, then you nofice how theyre doing it, then you notice that sort of notice that theyve sort of repurposed potatoes. And repurposed some potatoes. And then week, then by the end of the week, youre sick and you just cant face at any of the face looking at any of the people, let the food. How people, let alone the food. How do you know that dont take do you know that they dont take the off other peoples the waste off of other peoples plates and turn back . Yeah, dont. You dont yeah, you dont. You dont know that. But i mean, people Walking Around and theres all things you know . Oh, no, i hate. I literally. Oh, no, i hate. I literally. I worked in a cafe when i was younger and they used to wash the salad in the sink like the dirty wash. The bits in the sink. Yeah the bits in the sink. Yeah and, and then put it on peoples plates and then serve it and, and, you know, you cant trust stuff thats served up without a buffet without going through a buffet either. Cant. Yeah. Either. You just cant. Yeah. Sorry, guys. Yeah best crisps. Freddie, this is in the mail. Skips are the best value to according the new best value, not index , not not best. Not index, not not best. I do like the crisp index. I think its really important. I in our office, we have a league table of crisps. We all eat far too many crisps and its beginning to show. But no skip to the best value. Apparently its not quite clear how theyve decided that they are the best value, but they weigh nothing. Are they prawn . Are they prawn . Prawn cocktail . The prawn prawn cocktail . The prawn prawn cocktail . Them because they i like them because they dissolve on your tongue. They dissolve a bit like communion. Yeah. Think theyve yeah. Gosh, i think theyve only calories with a only got 80 calories with a taste prawn. Yeah. Taste of prawn. Yeah. Yeah. Least like quavers. Yeah. Least bit like quavers. Yeah. Least bit like quavers. Yeah. So you cant beat yeah, yeah. So you cant beat a if you ask me. I like a quaver if you ask me. I like the cheesy as well. They the cheesy ones as well. They get stuck in your teeth and they really are they really crisp. Are nice. Wotsits are very nice. Wotsits are very nice. Wotsits next speaking of wotsits next paper freddie , i want paper review, freddie, i want the important crisp index the really important crisp index and this which crisps go with and this is which crisps go with which theyve which drinks. Yes. And theyve done too. Done this in times too. Apparently. With apparently. Wotsits with a german riesling is the way to go i no bacon fries with a pint. No bacon fries with a pint. Yeah, that sounds like a good comment. Certain ciders are very unhealthy. Yeah, id eat anything with anything. Anything. Yeah, really matter to me. Yeah, really matter to me. Apart from repurposed buffet food. Exactly. Food. Exactly. Yeah, i do like going around the country and finding regional crisps, you know, stuff that arent. Stuff that arent in every supermarket. Yes. And you every supermarket. Yes. And you suddenly think, oh, this is exclusive to lancashire. Above this diddly squat. Above this diddly squat. I was watching clarksons farm last night, and Jeremy Clarkson this genius to clarkson had this genius idea to make crisps. Yeah and he sliced his thumb that was a little his thumb and that was a little bit go the crisp packet. Bit to go in the crisp packet. Yeah, that was nice. Yeah. Yeah, i saw that, actually. Yeah. Poor jeremy sucking botswana, isnt he . Its hard to beat, really. Its hard to beat, really. Its hard to beat, really. Im not a fan of exotic flavour crisps. I do like cheese and onion and smoky bacon and i really dont think there should be any other crisps rather than that. Oh, theres too much flavour. Oh, theres too much flavour. Salt and vinegar every day. All day. Come off your fingers. Come off your fingers. Does it . Does it . Its like, you know, you smell of cheese and onion all day long. Thats youre right. Thats youre right. Theyre stronger they are theyre the stronger they are stronger. Necessarily good theyre the stronger they are stronger. You necessarily good theyre the stronger they are stronger. You feelessarily good theyre the stronger they are stronger. You feel contaminate and because you feel contaminate and you do feel that youre breathing over everybody. You do feel that youre bre i hing over everybody. You do feel that youre bre i miss over everybody. You do feel that youre brei miss oversmithsody. You do feel that youre bre i miss oversmiths ones where i miss the smiths ones where you take the salt out i oh, showing your salt in and then shake up. Then shake it up. Oh, i love that. Oh, i love that. I really like those crisps without salt. Without the salt. Oh really . Yeah. Oh really . Yeah. Oh really . I did like that. Because yes, i did like that. Because i read everywhere that im going to a heart attack because to have a heart attack because i eat crisps, because they harden your arteries and your your arteries and reduce your blood pressure. And theyre just yeah. And theyre just walking bombs. Yeah. And theyre just waleverythingyombs. Yeah. And theyre just waleverything thats tasty. Does yeah. And theyre just walyeah,thing thats tasty. Does yeah. And theyre just walyeah, yeah. hats tasty. Does yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Eat another really eat another quaver. Really for that. But yeah , yeah. So if for that. But yeah, yeah. So if youve got your regional crisp and you want to tell us about it, how good it is, please do let us know. All right. What let us know. All right. What are we doing now . Have we got the. Oh, weve got 2. 5 minutes of papers. Well, we can talk a bit about penny mordaunt. The speech yesterday at the conference yesterday, freddie. Yes. As weve time. Freddie. Yes. As weve got time. I dont how many at i dont know how many people at home sort of warm up home caught her sort of warm up act. To the Prime Minister i love it or loathe it, i watched it. Im quite of my opinion. Mordaunt in many ways, but i thought it was the most fantastically weird speech id ever i was ever seen. I mean, i was beginning to think that someone may have spiked drink and may have spiked my drink and i was having altering was having mind altering drugs because wandering because she was wandering around. She said there was a lot of slightly kinky of sort of slightly kinky references velvet fists references to like velvet fists and and then who keir and gloves. And then who keir starmer is lying down with. She was saying hes lying down with ed davey. Hes lying down with the unions and then she had this rant at the end. You may have cupped rant at the end. You may have clipped it. We do, yeah. We do, yeah. But yeah. Should we should we but yeah. Should we should we line up the rant . Right. Right. Stand up and fight because cause when you stand up and fight the person beside you says stands up and fights. Stands up and fights. And when our party stands up and fights , the nation stands up and fights, the nation stands up and fights, the nation stands up and fights, the nation stands up and fights and when our nation stands up and fights , other stands up and fights, other nafions stands up and fights, other nations stand up and fight, have courage , bring hope. Stand stand courage, bring hope. Stand stand up and fight, fight. Stand up and fight. Thank you. Conference i so there is that weird. So there is that weird. Youre going to be a riot. Theres going to be a riot. Its churchill channelled through the worst chat bot you can imagine. And just its just can imagine. And just its just churning out the same repeated phrase. Thats not a very good phrase, is she being compared or shes comparing herself or someones comparing her to thatcher . Yeah, a bit brave heart, you know, wheres this war . Why are we what are we, like a boots . Understand . I dont know who she thinks she is, but she was a candidate or people sort of talking or people were sort of talking about as the next leader. About her as the next leader. The same thing the tories do. The same thing all time. All the time. Either want to embarrass they either want to embarrass margaret or winston Margaret Thatcher or Winston Churchill thats the churchill. Yeah, and thats the same all the time. And same old act all the time. And thats apparently what gets them. Well, lets find out if mark carp is going to stand up and fight. Were hoping to catch up with him. Transport secretary him. The transport secretary shortly. All, though, shortly. First of all, though, were take quick it is an anger. Its an exhaustion with politics. In particular, politicians saying things and then nothing ever changing. Changing. 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To our top story this morning , the Prime Minister laid morning, the Prime Minister laid out his vision that he hopes will keep him in number 10 for another term. Another term. A wide range of policy announcements announcements in his finale at the conference, including confirmation of the scrapping of the hs2 link to manchester. Well, lets get the thoughts this morning of the transport secretary, mark harper, who joins a very good morning to joins us. A very good morning to you. Ive got the Prime Ministers speech here in front of quite of pages, but of me. Quite a lot of pages, but at the end of the day, it feels to me like rishi sunak is going to me like rishi sunak is going to remembered for scrapping to be remembered for scrapping hs2. You thats a good hs2. Do you think thats a good legacy . Well i think youve only legacy . Well i think youve only covered half of the point there i what he set out yesterday was, first of all, confirming that were delivering phase one of hs2 from london, euston to birmingham. So thats the first birmingham. So thats the first point. Second point, obviously, was cancelling phase two, but of course, it was taking every penny that we save from cancelling that. Thats £36 billion and reinvest testing every penny across the north, the midlands and the rest of the country on important transport, transport, infrastructure that the people of this country want. So i think thats just changing what were investing, still investing in transport, but having investments that fit the needs of the country and recognise the facts have changed about the costs of hs2. The Business Case is weaker because of the change in travel patterns post pandemic. So taking a post pandemic. So taking a difficult decision on that, not everyone will agree with, but thats in the interests, long term interests of the country. But if the countries broke, why didnt just save that 36 why didnt you just save that 36 billion . Billion . Well, because i think its important if youre going to grow the economy, one of our really important priorities is youve got to invest in transport so that people can get about the country, they can get to work, businesses can function. We can move freight about country, particularly about the country, particularly on rail, which is why weve been able to sign a new rail able to sign off a new rail scheme in east england. Scheme in the east of england. Thats really that we thats really important that we couldnt before we couldnt pay for before we cancelled hs2. So i think investing in transport is really important so people can get to work and live their lives properly and we can grow the economy and generate the wealth that need and the revenue that we need and the tax revenue to pay for our important public services. Boris johnson doesnt agree. David cameron doesnt agree. These arent random people. The opposition, are former opposition, these are former Prime Ministers of the conservative party, David Cameron saying todays or yesterdays announcement throws away years of cross party away 15 years of Cross Party Consensus sustained over six administrations and will make it much harder to build consensus for any future long term projects. And youre the transport secretary. When did you Start Cooking up this northern this Network North . It feels very much as though this has been a sort of hotel room in manchester deal done with andy street, the northern mayor well, look, let me cover the two halves of that question. On the first point about some of the first point about some of the people that dont agree. Look, served in david look, i served in David Camerons government and i respect him hugely. But the facts have changed. You know, travel patterns have changed post pandemic. One of the really important arguments for was important arguments for hs2 was about business use and business and commuter traffic on the trains is now down by 50. Post pandemic. And the cost of the project have escalated. So the benefits of a much lower. So weve made a different decision. And the Prime Minister was clear yesterday that not everyone with it everyone would agree with it and some own party some people in our own party wouldnt with it. But his wouldnt agree with it. But his job Prime Minister is to make job as Prime Minister is to make the right long term decisions for the country. Thats leadership and thats what he demonstrated yesterday. On your second point about the sort of process and so forth , look, process and so forth, look, weve been working this is a big decision on were re were changing how were spending £36 billion of transport investment. Weve been working on it for a considerable period of time. The decision, though, the formal decision, though, the formal decision, is my legal responsibility , and i took that responsibility, and i took that decision on tuesday this week, and it was agreed by the cabinet on wednesday morning and then set out by the Prime Minister in his speech to the conference and to the country a short time after that. After that. Im just curious, i mean, richard bowker, hes the former boss of the Strategic Rail authority. He says what was transform ative authority. He says what was transformative about hs2 is that it got the fast stuff off the existing network. What has been announced does not address that problem. He says that lots of the capacity constraints around all different types of trains on the same lines. Youre not addressing that with what youve announced. Announced. Well, i think we are. Look on the west coast main line , the the west coast main line, the most congested part of its the southern end of it. So we are absolutely addressing that with phase one that will deliver. Phase one that will deliver. Thats the route from euston to birmingham that will deliver an increase from about 134,000 seats per day on trains to about 250,000. So a big, freeing up of capacity to the midlands, really important to the midlands because there are a lot of freight paths that go across the midlands. Theres less of a capacity issue. On the second part of the line, the trains are still going to run to manchester. Theyll go on to the west coast main but look, west coast main line. But look, we make a decision about we have to make a decision about to where focus that investment. And the things weve been and one of the things weve been able to do cancelling that able to do by cancelling that route free up money route is now free up money available investing, available for investing, for example in freight. Theres example, in freight. So theres a well thought a big project, well thought through a lot work done through a lot of work being done on the network have on it. The network rail have done ely enhancement done the ely area enhancement project is capacity project, which is a capacity enhancement project both for passenger but also big passenger use, but also big freight project , freeing passenger use, but also big freight project, freeing up the access to the port of felixstowe, for example, one of our largest uk ports. Now we couldnt pay for that before we made the decision that we made this week because the money was being for hs2 by cancelling being used for hs2 by cancelling hs2, can pay for projects hs2, we can pay for projects like that , delivering extra like that, delivering extra capacity for our important rail freight sector. And thats the sort of decisions we can make because of the big decision on hs2 that we took this week. Well it was a big decision. Thats how youre going to use the money saved. And what about the money wasted . I mean, about the money wasted . I mean, do you not have a sense of shame or regret over the money wasted . You could have been part of an amazing legacy project, you know, upgrading victorian amazing legacy project, you knosystemiding victorian amazing legacy project, you knosystem instead victorian amazing legacy project, you knosystem instead ofictorian amazing legacy project, you knosystem instead of thisian amazing legacy project, you knosystem instead of this sort rail system instead of this sort of sticking plaster approach to things. Well i dont agree with things. Well i dont agree with that aim and i dont think the job of politicians in fact, Prime Minister talked about it yesterday. Part of the problem is we dont want politicians who carry on doing something in their interests because of their legacy when the facts have changed and the project is no longer right. But this is so in conservative partys interests and rishi sunaks interest. Hes just bought himself £36 billion of votes are trying. To of votes are trying. To well, no, look, because. No, because there are people that wont agree with the project. Look, if all we wanted to do was buy cheap popularity, wed have said were to do all the said we were going to do all the other things and carry on with hs2. Because we are serious hs2. But because we are serious about the election and about winning the election and delivering on those promises, we had to make a choice. We had to say that if youre going to do these other things that are important for the country, youve actually got to make a decision do something youve actually got to make a decisand do something youve actually got to make a decisand not do something youve actually got to make a decis and not everyoneething youve actually got to make a decis and not everyone willig youve actually got to make a decis and not everyone will like else. And not everyone will like that. So had to make that. So we had to make a decision choice. Thats decision and a choice. Thats what about. Its what politics is about. Its about leadership. And thats what minister showed what the Prime Minister showed this he this week. The facts changed. He made choice , a long made a different choice, a long term choice. Thats the interests of the country. And hell run on that record and that approach to politics at the general election, which i think is contrast with what will is a big contrast with what will face from the labour party who dont decisions about dont make decisions about things, dont know to how deliver them. And i think when the public look at that choice face, theyll give us the opportunity to serve again and the Prime Minister then the Prime Minister can then continue the continue delivering for the country those long country and taking those long term country and taking those long terrcan just explain one can you just explain one legal point in all of this . Because you talked about that legal decision being your responsibility. You took that on tuesday minister tuesday after the Prime Minister brief what the brief cabinet. But what the Prime Minister scrapped was not just manchester, just birmingham to manchester, it birmingham to crewe and it was birmingham to crewe and that part hs2 too has already that part of hs2 too has already received royal assent. So how are you going to unpick that legally . Legally . Yeah, look, there are some legal issues and with the legislation thats going through parliament on the phase two manchester, so look, there are a lot of complicated issues that arise from this. We will work those through. We know what they are. Weve thought about them. Theres a lot of work that we now need to do following from now need to do following on from the that we took this the decision that we took this week , and well do that and set week, and well do that and set that out in the usual way both to parliament and the public in the weeks and months to come. And the speech yesterday from your you know , do you your boss, you know, do you think was visionary . Mean , think it was visionary . I mean, the sort of stood the things that sort of stood out getting things. Out was getting rid of things. Were to scrap hs2. Were were going to scrap hs2. Were going try and ban smoking. Going to try and ban smoking. Were to get rid were going to get rid of a levels hes sort like the a levels. Hes sort of like the destroying, wrecking ball, destroying, the wrecking ball, if like. I mean, liz truss if you like. I mean, liz truss has straight out, hasnt has come straight out, hasnt she . The blocks and said she . Out of the blocks and said this smoking stuff, wont vote this smoking stuff, i wont vote for thats authoritarian. For that. Thats authoritarian. Its i mean, i do its illiberal. I mean, i do think this could rishi think that this could be rishi sunaks last conference as conservative party leader and his legacy could arguably be, you know, mr destroyer , you know you know, mr destroyer, you know , i totally disagree with that. As i said, there were two halves of the decision on hs2 not to do phase two, but to take that money and reinvest it. On that money and reinvest it. On theissue that money and reinvest it. On the issue about a levels , its the issue about a levels, its to take a levels and t levels and put them together to have parity of esteem for academic and technical education, have more teaching hours, have a broader curriculum, but also keep the depth of our a level system, which i think is recognised worldwide , to give recognised worldwide, to give young people a better, more rounded education to equip them for the future. And on smoking, for the future. And on smoking, i think the Prime Minister made it clear when it comes to things like food and drink and diet, people should be able to make their own decisions and make judgements. There no safe judgements. There is no safe level of smoking and hes set out an aspiration not to stop people, not to stop adults. S people, not to stop adults. S who have made a decision now, but to try and prevent children in the future and young people taking up smoking in the future because of the significant pubuc because of the significant Public Health consequences. The quarter of cancers that are caused by smoking. And look, caused by smoking. And look, its going to be a free vote in parliament. Hes set out what his is. Will be his view is. I will be supporting that decision. I think its the right thing to do for country. And look, hell for the country. And look, hell be it, by the public. Be judged by it, by the public. I he set out was i think what he set out was a very positive agenda of taking the right term decisions the right long term decisions that interests of the people that are interests of the people of country. The of the country. Look the Election Campaign is an opportunity a choice. Opportunity to set out a choice. His his leadership his vision, his leadership against keir starmer and against that of keir starmer and the labour party, who dont have clear positions, dont set clear positions, who dont set them and who cant them out clearly and who cant deliver. Relish that contest. Deliver. I relish that contest. I thats a real i think thats a real opportunity and a choice for the country. And i think when they get that opportunity, im very confident that we will win rishi sunak will continue to be Prime Minister, long term minister, making those long term decisions interests of decisions in the interests of our country. Could argue, mark, well, you could argue, mark, could you that this was could you not, that this was a flip flop , what you accuse keir flip flop, what you accuse keir starmer of doing the hs2 decision , but there you are with decision, but there you are with the backdrop of manchester behind you, a city i know very, very well and thinking and i can confirm, eamonn, i was listening to the Weather Forecast. I was listening to the Weather Forecast earlier and i can confirm it is raining here. Usually a change just for a change. Andy burnham, the mayor of greater Greater Manchester. Yes. Today he of greater Greater Manchester. Yes. Today he said this of greater Greater Manchester. Yes. Today he said this shows yes. Today he said this shows the decision to axe the northern part of hs2 shows a disregard that he said show us some respect. Do you think youve respect. Do you think youve shown the people of Greater Manchester enough respect and if so , now with the new plans , how so, now with the new plans, how are you doing that . Well i think Andy Burnhams comments might have been fair if wed only done the cancelling part of the project. But i think the fact that we reinvesting every penny and of the £36 billion saved close on £20 billion is going to be reinvested in the north and were delivering those connections across the north of england, east to west. Weve put aside the money for the liverpool to manchester rail connections and weve said were to going work with Northern Leaders on exactly what that the shape of that looks like to make sure it fits their priorities. Im off later today to bradford to meet the labour leader of Bradford Council to talk about the £2 billion investment in joining up bradford and manchester with faster rail connections and an investment in an impressive new station to help them redevelop their city. So i think thats an impressive offer for the north of england and i look fonnard to working with andy and other mayors and andy street in the West Midlands to talk about the transport investment well work in investment and well work in partnership with them the partnership with them to do the right thing the people of right thing for the people of the the of england. Really briefly , i dont know really briefly, i dont know if youve seen the pictures of just crashing the stage Just Stop Oil crashing the stage of miserables the west of Les Miserables in the west end night. I just wanted to end last night. I just wanted to get your reaction to that. Well, i havent seen the specific pictures, look, specific pictures, but look, first disrupting first of all, disrupting peoples entertaining but i think completely pointless. Think is completely pointless. And are and look, just stop. Oil are quite first of all, oil quite wrong. First of all, oil this has a fantastic this country has a fantastic record on Climate Change. I just published last week before our conference, the most in ambitious zero Emission Vehicle mandate to decarbonise cars to move to electric vehicles , to move to electric vehicles, to stop petrol and diesel engines. The best the fastest one that weve got anywhere in the world. Weve got were world leading on decarbonise flying and our maritime sector. So this country is leading on net zero. But as the Prime Minister said in his speech a couple of weeks ago, doing it in a proportionate and sensible way. So Just Stop Oil. I reflect where i think doesnt reflect where the wants to go to. They the public wants to go to. They dont reflect where this governments actually leading on climate and going and Climate Change and going and wrecking the leisure activities of ordinary people , stopping of ordinary people, stopping them getting to their hospital appointments and schools and blocking roads and doing all of that destructive behaviour that is destructive behaviour and i dont think it has the support of public. Support of the public. Okay, mark harper, thanks for your today. Youre a busy your time today. Youre a busy man heading to man today and youre heading to bradford. Appreciate your time. Man today and youre heading to bradfo you ippreciate your time. Man today and youre heading to bradfo you very ciate your time. Man today and youre heading to bradfo you very much our time. Man today and youre heading to bradfo you very much indeed e. Man today and youre heading to bradfoyou very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. And lets get some analysis now from the political commentator peter spence as well as labour adviser, as the former labour adviser, jane good morning to jane schneider. Good morning to you. To start you, you. I want to start with you, james. Actually, you will james. Actually, if you will just get a sort of labour just to get a sort of labour take in all of this. Look, there was a gauntlet being thrown down by minister and some by the Prime Minister and some accusations there mark accusations there from mark harper about what labour would do. In contrast to what the government have out. What government have set out. What did that . Did you make of that . I mean, its just going to be so amazing when mark harper and rishi sunak they get back to london and then they find out that theyre government and that theyre in government and that theyre in government and that theyve been in government for years. Its just for 13 years. Its just absolutely baffling. Its really the sort of dying days of a government thing where they turn around and oh, no, were around and say, oh, no, were going be this massive change going to be this massive change and the change that they and what is the change that they offer . Continue shambles offer . Continue wing shambles mean decided to hold mean theyve decided to hold their conference in their Party Conference in manchester in a disused rail building to have an argument about a rail line that they could have had weeks ago. They could have had weeks ago. They could have had weeks ago. They could have settled weeks ago. We just heard in your interview with mark harper that they finally decided it on tuesday day. Mean, this is this is, day. I mean, this is this is, you know, dog dog days stuff. But, you know, james, they were forced into it. I mean, this is what i cant stand sunak is that he stand about. Sunak is that he makes out this. Hes the decisive one. Hes doing things. Hes not like other politicians. Hes not like other politicians. He wouldnt give us one word of truth. I see our veteran commentator Peter Spencer there smiling , commentator Peter Spencer there smiling, smiling, all that. Commentator Peter Spencer there smiling , smiling, all that. Hes smiling, smiling, all that. Hes been there before. Butjames, been there before. But james, i was i was just trying to see hes painting himself as something he didnt want to make that announcement in manchester there. And he was forced into it i and nobody believes that this is change and hes talking about how hes going to change 30 years of for politics the last 30 years, weve seen politicians like mark harper have interviews with people like you saying , with people like you saying, look, with their hands here, you know, look, look, this no, look, you know, its absolutely the same sunak didnt come up with anything that is going to change politics. Did he say no, were going to have more direct democracy. Were going to scrap the of lords, were going the house of lords, were going to lobbyists. Know, to ban lobbyists. You know, anything be some kind to ban lobbyists. You know, an bigng be some kind to ban lobbyists. You know, an big change . Be some kind to ban lobbyists. You know, an big change . No, be some kind to ban lobbyists. You know, an big change . No, hee some kind to ban lobbyists. You know, an big change . No, he didnt; kind to ban lobbyists. You know, an big change . No, he didnt say d of big change . No, he didnt say any these things. And i think any of these things. And i think thats why there was a snap poll i saw morning that 13 of i saw this morning that 13 of people that rishi sunak people think that rishi sunak represents a represents change. Thats a very, Peter Spencer. Represents change. Thats a verjand Peter Spencer. Represents change. Thats a verjand petwsaidwencer. Represents change. Thats a verjand petwsaid to cer. Represents change. Thats a verjand petwsaid to go here. I and peter said to go here. I mean, youve seen party mean, youve seen enough Party Conferences time, peter. Conferences in your time, peter. Where was he impressive to you on stage . You on stage . I thought he did the very best he could with it. I just mentioned, by the way, about these conferences. Yes i have been things forever been covering the things forever and scars will and the emotional scars will never. But about rishi never heal. But about rishi sunaks performance. Yeah. I mean , he was doing what he i mean, he was doing what he i mean, he was doing what he i mean, he was it was extraordinary because it was the 13 years of tory rule stroke , 13 years of tory rule stroke, misrule delete where applicable. Nothing to do with me, guv. Im the new im the new kid on the block, and im going to win you the general election. But it was absolutely extraordinary because one hand, youve because on the one hand, youve got going on the got that going on and on the other hand, youve this huge other hand, youve got this huge Success Energy elsewhere , success of energy elsewhere, which is predicated not on how theyre going to win the next election, but how theyve already lost it and what fun theyre going to have choosing a new leader and then, of course, this this, this glorious , this this, this glorious, bizarre sort of sideshow of all this of nigel farage, who was once an existential threat to the tory party because he was too right wing, now floating around the place like banquos ghost and indeed being invited to the table. Oh, and by the way , also saying thanks, but no thanks. I just want to ask james, its really interesting reading the assessment in different papers. I mean, a lot of the right wing press pretty supportive, it has to be said, as you would expect, the mail andindeed as you would expect, the mail and indeed the telegraph. You know, the know, on sunak side, the i taking view here, james taking a view here, james schneider, sunak has set schneider, that sunak has set a political for starmer , political trap for starmer, particularly on spending. And particularly on spending. And there is a there is an argument. There isnt there . I mean, hes basically said hes made the hard decision. Its a hard decision. Its not a popular decision. Hes made the hard to scrap this. Hard decision to scrap this. What will the labour do . What will the labour party do . Will reinstate it . Will they reinstate it . Imagine so. But i dont imagine so. But i mean, i dont know. But it, you know, trying to win based on the hypotheticals of what decision labour might take is not a strong change. Making leadership, i mean fundamentally we, theyve been in power for 13 years. Most peoples lives are worse. So you actually have to have very big to change suggest that youve realised all of that. And youre going to change things a lot. Not scrapping a couple of things, banning a couple of things, banning a couple of things, banning a couple of things. As you were saying in your interview earlier. Okay. Thank you very much, both of you, for your analysis. Sorry it was so short. Thank you, scott. Yes, thank you, scott. I apologise time against apologise to you. Time against us. Very much indeed. Us. Thank you very much indeed. Thank in news, thank you. In other news, companies are being urged to provide Awareness Training and support about menopause. Yeah, the conciliation service. Acas says firms need to help staff manage symptoms and creating a better understanding of the menopause in the workplace. Lets now talk for analysis on this. Two nutritionist specialising in womens health, dr. Marilyn glenville, about this. Marilyn, as a man, i think the more awareness about this is for all of us, the better. Of us, the better. Yes. And i agree. And i think, you know, what theyre asking for is to have either a menopause manager or a menopause wellbeing champion within the Work Environment. So women would Work Environment. So women would have somebody they can communicate with and think. Its all about communication and being able to talk about the symptoms around the menopause and being able to get some, you know, reasonable adjustments in that environment where they that Work Environment where they may them because of the may need them because of the symptoms through this transition , often just to be able to help them able to them personally, to be able to cope with the symptoms that some may experiencing in not all may be experiencing in not all women will get symptoms around the menopause, but some they can be debilitating. And to be quite debilitating. And to have somebody there who they can talk sympathetically and talk to sympathetically and confidentially would be a real bonus for them. I mean, every every woman whos going through it that i know , its always it that i know, its always about the hot flushes and its about the hot flushes and its about the hot flushes and its about the lack of sleep. And theyre just uncomfortable and theyre very uncomfortable and theyre very uncomfortable in their own bodies, by and large. I mean, bodies, by and large. I mean, im just speaking generally , and im just speaking generally, and yet i remember my own mother , yet i remember my own mother, god rest her talking about this. And she was saying, i never had the menopause. I was too busy having five children to worry about. The menopause. We know we know as those five children she did because retrospectively, looking back, she was always having flushes and high having the hot flushes and high on earth. And i feel sorry for her on earth she was ever able to on with her life to carry on with her life because if this was happening to men, would grind to a halt, men, life would grind to a halt, wouldnt it . Yes. And youre right about it can be hot flushes. It could be night sweats as well. So their sleep disrupted. I their sleep disrupted. And i think other side, think the other side, particularly related work particularly related to the Work Environment, a lot women environment, is a lot of women lose confidence , they lose lose their confidence, they lose their self esteem. Maybe their memory concentration is not so good. And we know the Research Shows that a million women have left their jobs because of menopause symptoms and up to 1 in 6 may be thinking of actually leaving. And thats such a shame for the organisations because these women have a lot of experience. They can train experience. They can train younger people coming up and ive been going into a lot of companies to talk about the menopause and the symptoms, both for the men and the women. So like you said, eamonn, so the men know whats happening and can be supportive in that environment and in their personal life as well. And it is just talking about how companies can support their staff and be able to keep those women in the jobs that they really love and actually want to stay in them. So how can they what needs to change . And i know everyones going to say, you know, make sure theres aircon, but, you know, if people are having confidence, its not the bosss job is it, to necessarily come and say, look great today, and say, you look great today, sheila, you know, if its sheila, or, you know, if its the brain fog, do you help the brain fog, how do you help employers to help their employees with the menopause . Employees with the menopause . Well, needs to be somebody well, it needs to be somebody who is either menopause who is either a menopause champion , somebody who knows champion, somebody who knows that area well , or it doesnt that area well, or it doesnt have to be their line manager, but can talk about in but they can talk about it in confidence because i know for some they would some women they would find it embarrassing talk about their embarrassing to talk about their symptoms. May also feel symptoms. They may also feel that it may affect their job security or somebody may feel that theyre not doing their job as well. So think if they can get some additional help, would be really useful in that area. But it needs to be done. Very confident, really. Not all women will want to talk about the menopause. They see that as being private. So it shouldnt being private. So it shouldnt be assumed that women going be assumed that all women going through the menopause are going to talking about their to be talking about their symptoms. And some sail through it. Affect every it. So it doesnt affect every woman in the same way. And also, marilyn, different ages. So we cant sit in generalise and say, oh, when you get over 40 or when you get into your 50s or whatever, this could hit you in your 20s. And so unpredictable is it. But but the thing that i find impressive and which is needed for this is that it encourages women that you can take place in the workforce. And take place in the workforce. And when you are in the workplace as well , that you will be treated well, that you will be treated seriously and confidentially. Seriously and confidentially. Yes. And i think the confidential is really important because obviously theyre worried about their job security is it going to be perceived that theyre of a certain age, they may not be able to do the job so well and also, does it mean that actually their productivity may have changed because the have changed because of the menopause . So to talk around it, but think if the support is there of how women can manage there of how women can manage the symptoms, maybe also of referral to maybe their doctor as well. And looking at this , as well. And looking at this, obviously im looking at it from the nutritional side, but its making sure that women know what is available well, and to help them through this transition so that theyre not suffering with a brain fog , loss of a brain fog, loss of concentration, that loss of confidence and self esteem and somebody in that workplace that has that council experience to be able to support them through this transition. So they can stay in the job they love and be valuable to the company and also to themselves personally. To themselves personally. Marilyn, quick question. Do marilyn, quick question. Do you believe and im not being facetious here, im not joking at all, but do you believe in some version of the menopause or not . Well it the terminology would be andropause was for if we look at it in terms of a male menopause and there are concerns that for some men, when we talk about testosterone, there may be about testosterone, there may be a decline as time goes on. But when we talk about the menopause for women, there is a very abrupt change because the cycle will stop. The hormones will come crashing down quite severely. So its very different in terms of what a man may experience, but some men will have an andropause and there are know dont you dont have to tell me. Tell me. You dont have to tell me the things that ive suffered in silence here without ever complaining. I think any reduction in testosterone would be a good thing. But. But thank you, marilyn. But. But thank you, marilyn. Doctor. Marilyn glenville. Shes a nutritionist. Shes specialises in womens health. And that was a great subject to talk about, menopause, managing the menopause. Yes. Stay with us. Coming up, well be discussing newcastles dream night in the Champions League against Paris Saint Germain. N ext next now, you know , paul coyte was now, you know, paul coyte was very interested in roller skating. Yes. Which we want to bnng skating. Yes. Which we want to bring to you in the sport this time round. The future of sport. Yeah, well, very popular with a lot of people. So tell us more. Lot of people. So tell us more. Okay. Well, this is this is an interesting one. This happened at asian games and happened at the asian games and its the 3000 metre roller skating relay race, which is my particular favourite. I think theyre more the, you know, the roller blades like the inline skating more than the old style roller skates they used get. Roller skates they used to get. Now i do have a little footage. Here is jung cheol won is leading in the final straight now a little little background on this. Is that because hes korean, if they win the title, if they win the gold medal, then he would be exempt from National Service because thats between the ages. I think its 21 and 28 handy enough. They have to do nearly two years of National Service for exactly Heung Min Son at spurs. He expected he son at spurs. He was expected he was to have to back. Was going to have to go back. He did go back. He did go back. But because he played for south korea and won the south korea and they won the gold medal, it was then their reward. Dont now have to do reward. You dont now have to do National Service. Okay so this guy, National Service. Okay so this 9117 jung National Service. Okay so this guy, jung chul won, hes got guy, jung chul won, so hes got jung i do hope. I do hope jung chun. I do hope. I do hope we have. I do hope we have. There we are. There he is there we are. Now. There he is on the right. Celebrates now he looks. Look at those thighs. So hes celebrating there. Look hes celebrating there. Now look at him. Thats at the guy behind him. Thats hwang lin. Now, there we are. Hwang yu lin. Now, there we are. Now, hwang chu. Lin caught up by now, hwang chu. Lin caught up by just sticking his leg out and managed to squeeze it. Now, look. See the leg a thousandth of a second . No, hes managed to win. So the other guy kneeling has actually won it. Hes won the race. Hes. Hes won the race for taiwan. So there we are. For taiwan. So there we are. Well, i cant wait i cant wait to see that again. Ill view that differently just run that again. Now just just to run that again. Now just to just to be the guy standing up thinks hes won. Hes thinks won. Hes thinks hes won. Hes thinks hes won. The kneeling down has the guy kneeling down has pulled a one. Early celebration. Its a bit awkward, isnt it . Its a bit awkward, isnt it . Wow, a technique. Wow, what a technique. Wow, what a technique. What a technique. The leg. The leg is going out there. Hooray no National Service for me. Hero was brought me. Gold medal hero was brought into that. Thats when you have decent leg out decent v8. Look at that leg out there and then manages to get past. Couldnt do that. Couldnt do that. I do the splits and im i cant do the splits and im not going put you on roller not going to put you on roller skates. Im not going put i swear im not going to put you roller skates. So there you on roller skates. So there we are. That was the news from the asian games. It worth the asian games. It was worth waiting for. Really i mean, thats it really was. I mean, thats the sport you want. The sort of sport you want. Thats international and that is it. And theres a lesson for every sports every professional sports star. Now, never over now, you know, its never over until youve got across the line. Absolutely. Do not celebrate never celebrate too early. Do never celebrate too early. Do never celebrate although celebrate too early. Although i do to mention also, if we do want to mention also, if we have time, done a little have time, ive done a little maths and you know how i am maths and you know how bad i am at but as far as the at maths. But as far as the world cup is concerned, scotland will playing ireland on will be playing ireland on saturday, which means the rugby world world world cup and the rugby world cup, africa like cup, south africa look like theyre and dry. But there theyre home and dry. But there is that scotland and is a way that scotland and ireland can qualify both ireland can qualify and both qualify if they. The accusation will be so the accusation will be theyre cahoots. Cahoots and collusion. So if scotland beat ireland by more than 20 points with a bonus point and ireland a score four or more tries, which means they get a bonus point as well , they get a bonus point as well, ireland and scotland will go through to kicking out south africa who are the world champions. So so its very unlikely. But if that happens , unlikely. But if that happens, questions will be asked. I would be sort of saying, well, you know, i couldnt imagine scotland beating ireland by 20 points. No, me neither. No, but it could happen. It could happen and it would suit ireland probably because its a scottish word. I think it houtsma the huisman. Yeah. Like cahoots. Huisman. Yeah. Like cahoots. Lord rockinghams 11 huw thomas ill be. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. So that would benefit scotland. Northern ireland. I think ireland could take on the box. You see how much work ive been putting in over the last hour bring that math maths. Hour to bring that math maths. A walking computer. Well, i hope sunak is watching. Well, i hope he is. Yeah rishi. Yeah. Yeah, hell have you studying maths until you drop. Studying maths until you drop. So would. So you would. I may get past ksi five. Thats what im hoping. I didnt even get that far, did you not . No. Well, lets see how Jonathan Vautrey is getting on. Hes got our. Our forecast. There. Very good hello there. Very good morning. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Who your gb weather who is your gb news Weather Forecast by forecast provided by the metaphor is definitely mixed metaphor is definitely a mixed picture across the during picture across the uk. During today weve already got rain spreading into parts of Northern Ireland. Wet, ireland. Really quite a wet, damp to day here that damp start to the day here that is its way into western is pushing its way into western parts of scotland and then will eventually reach of eventually reach parts of Northern England and wales as well. Southeastern areas of well. But southeastern areas of england and far england and even the far north east scotland in the north east of scotland in the northern largely north east of scotland in the noriforn largely north east of scotland in the norifor most largely north east of scotland in the norifor most of largely north east of scotland in the norifor most of the largely north east of scotland in the norifor most of the day argely north east of scotland in the norifor most of the day withy dry for most of the day with some sunny as well. Well some sunny spells as well. Well be southEastern England that sees higher temperatures, be southEastern England that sees generally temperatures, be southEastern England that sees generally reaching ures, though, generally reaching around 19 c. A bit cooler where you are stuck underneath the rain and particularly for northeast scotland, around 12 c. There are quite gusty at times. Some gales around the irish sea coastal areas that rain there will spread its way eastwards as we head throughout this evening and eventually few and overnight. Eventually a few drabs, their way across drabs, pushing their way across southeastern well. But southeastern areas as well. But most turning most places largely turning dry as the second half as we head into the second half of night. Still some of the night. Still just some random pushing their way random showers pushing their way through times. Of cloud through at times. A lot of cloud around, though, and still the breeze in place. So that will help the air and prevent help mix up the air and prevent our dropping our temperatures dropping too far of us seeing far at all. Most of us seeing quite a mild night around 14, 15 c. We see this lingering 15 c. We then see this lingering rain push way into rain start to push its way into parts scotland throughout parts of scotland throughout friday. As it heads friday. This pulse, as it heads in later in the afternoon as in later on in the afternoon as well, could some quite well, could provide some quite heavy so heavy and persistent rain. So worth watching out for that. But again, a fine start again, a fairly fine dry start and the day across and end to the day across southern with some sunny southern areas with some sunny spells there well. Spells in there as well. Temperatures beginning to climb with airflow with that southerly airflow around higher we around 21 c, even higher as we head the weekend. Head into the weekend. Enjoy your and by smoking edge. Were talking about that next one, raising the smoking ridge after months for this jezebel isnt you so that when youre 14, youll never be able to smoke again legally. Yeah. I dont know how to work that out. Yeah. Yeah. Hes too clever for anyway, were doing that n ext next to have a romp through the stories that are making the headunes stories that are making the headlines today. We do that in the company of freddie grey and Carol Mcgiffin making her first appearance with us on on the breakfast show. And very lovely to have you, carol. Good to be here, freddie, were going to talk about the smoking ban and were all sitting working how when youre 14 working out how when youre 14 and the smoking ban goes up, one year every year , youll never be year every year, youll never be able to buy cigarettes in your life. Im not really sure how this works, but anyway, this is everywhere. This was announced by the Prime Minister yesterday. Its extremely confusing. Sorry, i thought we were about to see a clip. Its extremely confusing. My boss has two boys, confusing. My boss has two boys, 16 and 14, and he was saying that. So one of them will always be able to buy cigarettes and the other one wont. And so if the other one wont. And so if the younger one turns out to be a smoker , age 64, age 64, his 66 a smoker, age 64, age 64, his 66 year old brother will be buying him cigarettes. And it seems like an insanely weird policy and a very odd way of doing it. And the reason why theyre doing it like that is that people dont mind banning things for other people. Well, and children dont. And so theres no dont vote. And so theres no sort of political downside or little political downside in doing this. Theyve tried it in new zealand studies suggest so far it doesnt seem to be reducing smoking any way, reducing smoking in any way, even among the young and smoking has been declining among the young very, very long young for a very, very long time. So its a its a very odd policy to throw in. And i think it was sunak sort of trying to show that hes hes pragmatic. And he he isnt a crazy tory libertarian like liz truss. You libertarian like liz truss. You know, hes not going to hes not to going sort of suddenly go away from the nanny state and so on. But its i mean, i just on. But its i mean, ijust i believe grown ups should be able to make adult choices. I think if people want to smoke, they should be able to smoke. Everybody risks. And i Everybody Knows the risks. And i think bonkers. Think its bonkers. Chris whittys been on the ainnaves this morning saying prohibition rarely which ainnaves this morning saying pthinktion rarely which ainnaves this morning saying pthink isn rarely which ainnaves this morning saying pthink is interesting which ainnaves this morning saying pthink is interesting fromhich ainnaves this morning saying pthink is interesting from him i think is interesting from him. Its interesting that. And also its interesting that labour have said they would vote in favour of these proposals. Its only liz truss that ive sort of seen the sort of truss sites. Yeah, well people dont like cigarette, people dont smoke, really dont cigarettes and really dont like cigarettes and i understand they i can understand that, but they dont to experience dont really have to experience them any more anywhere. You dont them in pubs. Dont experience them in pubs. I think its, yeah, i think its , think its, yeah, i think its, its sad in a way, but then im often wrong about these things. Often wrong about these things. I dont know how anyone can afford to smoke anymore. I honestly dont much as a packet of 20. Oh, i dont know, £15 or something. £20. Yeah. £20. Yeah. Its a lot. And i remember when i was smoking in my teens and i said one, i said if it goes up to a pound a packet im giving up a pound. Id, its like £20 now so i dont know how people can afford it but they always will and it doesnt matter. I think its another fraudulent thing. The government keeps going on about smoking. Like is the big thing like smoking is the big thing thats killing everyone. No, its not. Its fact that its not. Its the fact that people cant see their doctor. Its that cant its the fact that they cant get for nhs. Yeah, lots get screened for nhs. Yeah, lots of. There are so many of things. There are so many things , you know, even they keep things, you know, even they keep pumping vaccines into people and you we know that theyve you know, we know that theyve been harming people so they dont stop that. They havent actually stopped that, but they dont stop that. They havent actuato stopped that, but they dont stop that. They havent actuato ban ped that, but they dont stop that. They havent actuato ban smoking, but they dont stop that. They havent actuato ban smoking, butthey want to ban smoking and the whole smoking argument is smoking doesnt necessarily kill you. People die from lung cancer if theyve never smoked. It does if theyve never smoked. It does happen, but im not defending it because i think its a disgusting habit. Even though i was a massive, massive smoker and i wish i still had all the money that i spent on in the 20 years that i did smoke. But to come out with this now, its just its just ridiculous. Its just its just ridiculous. Its more words. Its just another thing to grab a headline to take it away from the things that are really horrific. Really horrific. High things move on. I remember you know, as a kid in the 60s and if there was a party in our house or whatever, we were given, you know, two bob or whatever to go and buy ten cigarettes or 20 cigarettes and you were allowed to do that, you know, as a 5 or 6 year old, you would go to the shop and youd get it. But only that, get it. But not only that, freddy, i could buy my own cigarettes because as kids, our confectionery was sweetie cigarettes. Had cigarettes. Yes. You had you had packets cigarettes packets of sweetie cigarettes that and then you had that you could and then you had tobacco, pirates tobacco, which you sort of roll. Imagine that. Now you could there were all sorts of things that were alluded to encouraging kids to start smoking basically , the argument that i find odd is that the burden on the nhs argument, the financial burden on the nhs , first of all, tax on on the nhs, first of all, tax on cigarettes extremely high. Cigarettes is extremely high. A lot to money it gives a lot of to money the the exchequer. I think the to the exchequer. I think its Something Like to 2. Yeah its Something Like 1 to 2. Yeah they really want so they dont really want people they dont want to ban it completely because they want the tax from it. They the tax from yeah, they want the tax from it, also, i mean this is the it, but also, i mean this is the horribly brutal about it. Yes yes. Smoking smokers the yes. Smoking smokers cost the nhs a lot of money because of all cancer. Theyre all the cancer. Well theyre paying all the cancer. Well theyre paying in heart attacks paying for it in heart attacks and on, theyre paying and so on, but theyre paying for things, but also for it through things, but also smokers younger. And one, if smokers die younger. And one, if you want to about if you want to talk about like if you want to talk about like if you government you want to make government decisions whether decisions based on whether people are going to a burden people are going to be a burden to know, you may as to the nhs, you know, you may as well have sort of, you know, euthanasia from the age 60. Euthanasia from the age of 60. Its, its, its it doesnt make any sense in as well. Should point out also we should also point out also when to vaccines, when it comes to vaccines, you know, the anti vaccine narrative has discredited. Know, the anti vaccine narrative has are discredited. Know, the anti vaccine narrative has are wascredited. Know, the anti vaccine narrative has are ya fewiited. Know, the anti vaccine narrative has are a few people there are always a few people who have negative reactions to vaccines. But we know worldwide how people have how many millions of people have had and we know had vaccines. And we know largely the is on largely where the science is on that we talk about that carol. Should we talk about kevin whats kevin keegan . Whats he been saying about female football pundits . Saying about female football pundits well, said oh, well, hes said the unsayable. Is unsayable. Well, and this is something that i know a lot of men think back that men especially think back that they they they would rather they dont they dont want women commenting on the mens game for some reason. I dont know. I mean, i dont care. I dont watch football. I dont listen to it anymore. But kevin, this is the sort of thing that a lot of men think they would rather just have, you know, professional footballers sit in there games. There commenting on on games. And hes actually come out and said it. So, you know , poor kev, said it. So, you know, poor kev, hes hes to going probably be cancelled as well now because you cant say these things and it. So why cant women comment it. So why cant women comment on womens football and men comment on mens football. I dont know. But this seems to be dont know. But this seems to be an obsession now with every single football show, youve got to have women. To have women. So we cant have sue barker commenting on the male game in tennis, so they cant. But im just prefer not to. But why . I think some people find it sort of irritating that there are women there for the sake of the fact that theyre women. Yeah, they are. I think. And i think but the thing i find slightly irritating is men talking womens football, talking about womens football, because to always sounds because to me, it always sounds very never really see that if very i never really see that if i woman, id say back off i was a woman, id say back off the womens game. Do see men committed in a woman . Yeah, ive had sort of slightly phoney conversations with theyre with people pretending theyre really the really excited about the lionesses i know deep down lionesses and i know deep down that theyre not. But everyone did object to. I object to. I object to. I object to. I object to all these nicknames lionesses, nicknames like lionesses, the england team, england womens football team, you of making you know, its instead of making it something different, the big the football story here is the big football story here is alex scott, presenter of football focus in the sun today announcing her relationship with the singer jess glynne and its whos had a number of number one hits as well jess says ive only been with one girl and thats the girl from my album in 2015. Im never going to put a label on my sexuality. People should never feel uncomfortable about who they love and so there they are. So they are now a couple who knew , who knew out and proud i is it against the law . Not to support womens football these days . I think it is, yeah. Im surprised they havent changed that law because i remember saying to people , well, remember saying to people, well, im not interested in all my mates , all on my whatsapp groups. Well , youre not watching it. Well, youre not watching it. No, im not interested. And it was just horrified. Well why . Who cares . Who cares . That is the danger with sponsorship and things that the male game and the female game are at Different Levels in terms of attracting sponsorships. But as to i think all big clubs should have a female side, a female team, and i mean , this female team, and i mean, this weekend there was a match. I think it was at arsenal and there was 56,000 people turning up to see that Womens Super League game. So that was that was a lot of people. I used to play football a bit in america, and it was mixed. The game was mixed, wasnt it . Girls america played football girls in america played football a so the female a lot more. So the female standards very high and a girl broke my rib. Broke my rib. Oh, incredible. Oh, incredible. I went up for a header with a girl and i she elbowed into me and landed and i was like, did she fancy you . My macho pride was like, i cant. I cant pretend ive been hurt. And then i out of bed the i couldnt get out of bed the next day. Dear, dear. Oh, dear, dear. Oh, dear, dear. To say kevin keegan did just to say kevin keegan did single out gabby yorath as saying she was really good. Saying that she was really good. You what . Do you know what . Do you know what . Absolutely right. Hes hes absolutely right. Hes absolutely mean, people hes absolutely right. Hes absolonly mean, people hes absolutely right. Hes absolon merit. Mean, people hes absolutely right. Hes absolon merit. I mean, people hes absolutely right. Hes absolon merit. I mean, |, people hes absolutely right. Hes absolon merit. I mean, you ople hes absolutely right. Hes absolon merit. I mean, you get there on merit. I mean, you get someone gabby logan, who is someone like gabby logan, who is a superb sports broadcaster, absolutely. But thats absolutely superb. But thats the thing. In all walks of life, you it depends why people you know, it depends why people have or not, but have been given jobs or not, but you just got to be the best at it. Not there just because youre female, you know, fair enough , female, you know, fair enough, isnt it . Isnt that its not fair enough. Isabel. Isabel. Yeah , but he was saying he yeah, but he was saying he didnt. I dont understand his point. He has a problem with female but not gabby female pundits, but not gabby logan. Know whats logan. You know whats his argument . Does he . Logan. You know whats his arg well, . Does he . Logan. You know whats his arg well, . D argument a logan. You know whats his arg well, . D argument a lot well, his argument is a lot of are there just to tick boxes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. As in most places these days. As in most places these days. Okay. A in magic you okay. A degree in magic you can get, says the guardian. Yeah yes. This is interesting to me because the university of exeter has made magic and the occult a degree subject which no proper university has done yet. And this is because of a huge upfickin and this is because of a huge uptick in interest in magic and were seeing this a lot with, i think were sort of returning to a slightly mediaeval thinking about something. And im not saying this is necessarily in a bad way, but people are fascinated by magic aliens , fascinated by magic aliens, trickery, trickery. Our trickery, trickery. Our relationship with the truth has completely changed. And were in a very post truth world. And so why not believe in magic and why not study it . I think its perfectly healthy development. I think its quite a skill. I think its not like think its fair. Its not like one of these mickey mouse things where skill involved where theres no skill involved or any old joe can do or sort of any old joe can do it. This is tricky stuff. This is tricky stuff and a tricky to study. I dont think for the exams, doesnt sound for the exams, it doesnt sound like from what the article, it doesnt like going doesnt sound like youre going to perform magic tricks to have to perform magic tricks to have to perform magic tricks to a to get to get a they cant be that difficult. Surely you know how do surely once you know how to do it, you do it. You just it, you just do it. You just dont know how do it. And dont know how to do it. And people are always fascinated with they cant understand. Well, you could technically do its the art of the illusion. I suppose the theatre involved in it is the real, the real skill. A of mine does he. He a friend of mine does he. He does entertainment. He does magic explains how magic tricks and it explains how he them. Oh, no. And he did them. Oh, no. And magicians that. Its magicians hate to do that. Its against code. Against the code. Yeah but hes done it. Yes. Yeah but hes done it. Yes. Yeah but hes done it. Ive him do it. Its ive seen him do it. Its actually quite interesting. A degree in magic. So okay. A degree in magic. So that you a an mom, that would make you a an mom, a master of magic . Yeah. Im eamonn, mom. Yeah. Okay on the eamonn, mom. Yeah. Okay on the trail. Carol this is in the daily mail. Its not even a train strike day. Commuter fury as rail firms wreak havoc during the morning rush hour. Yeah, this is this. With all this hoo ha going on about hs2 and the Train Network in this country is probably one of the most expensive in the world, but its one of the most useless. It its one of the most useless. It has to be with the strikes , not has to be with the strikes, not just the strikes, but you know, every single time you want to get a train, youve got overrunning engineering work. So that doesnt happen anywhere else. No one else uses that. An excuse to not run a train. And when you think how much theyre desperate to get people of desperate to get people out of their cars, theyre not offering an alternative. You know, and an alternative. You know, and the Train Network in this country is pretty shameful. And its needs its not because it needs high speed railway. It just needs to work properly. And i dont know work properly. And i dont know if its about paying proper wages. I mean, the rail workers will always on strike and will always go on strike and theyre strike. Like theyre always on strike. Like yesterday a strike. Yesterday there was a strike. None of the trains are in the right place. So all the trains today are all over the place and theyre going to take like a whole day to get back to normal and then theyre going to go on strike again. I despair. And strike again. And i despair. And i so bad commuters i feel so bad for commuters because they have no choice. You cant into london cant drive into london anymore because afford the because no one can afford the ulez the congestion charge. Ulez and the congestion charge. If dont have brand new if you dont have a brand new car. Mean, it is its almost car. I mean, it is its almost like, you know, theyre forcing this kind of, you know , this kind of, you know, Restrictive Movement on people. They dont want anyone travelling. And its you know, travelling. And its you know, to me, its to going all lead to the 15 minute thing. You wont have to get your car or get have to get in your car or get on a train. Yeah. And its bit yeah. And its a bit different from the strikes in the you know, patients the nhs. You know, patients dont any choice. Have dont have any choice. They have to doctor or a nurse. But to use a doctor or a nurse. But the strikes within the train sector, just say, do you sector, people just say, do you know what . I wont bother. Ill just or ill work just drive or ill work from home then never go back home and then they never go back to trains and, you know, it to the trains and, you know, it hurts in the long run. Hurts them in the long run. It gets more and more expensive. And the service is shocking. Of time. Shocking. Most of the time. We saw this with rishi sunak yesterday. Hard generate yesterday. Its hard to generate a the future a positive vision of the future in britain at the moment because the president president is the president the president is so and its, you so full of crises and its, you know, and you know, as know, and thats, you know, as you isabel brushing over know, and thats, you know, as you nhs. Isabel brushing over know, and thats, you know, as you nhs. You el brushing over know, and thats, you know, as you nhs. You know, shing over know, and thats, you know, as you nhs. You know, brushingr know, and thats, you know, as you nhs. You know, brushing over the nhs. You know, brushing over things brushing over things like that, brushing over the talking about hs2, the fact talking about hs2, when Everybody Knows train Everybody Knows that the train system moment isnt working. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Why this government its why this government is in position. In such a difficult position. Freddie, a lot of people commenting on your idea of what makes a good crisp and what to have to drink with a crisp, good. Kevin says his ultimate, his ultimate is twiglets , which his ultimate is twiglets, which have that beefy flavour. Yes and guinness. Thats is a good combination. You could see that working. You could see that working. Yeah, i think it is beefy. Yeah, i think it is beefy. I think of it as marmite. I suppose that is beefy isnt it. Yeah. Right okay. Yeah fair enough. But. But yeah, i mean, i remember. Yeah i can get through one of those large packets of, of twiglets. Theyre so salty though. They theyre so salty though. They just leave you gagging. You feel like youve, youve given minor heart given yourself a minor heart attack after that. And doncaster says hendersons relish crisps are delicious and the finest crisp bar none are littles crushed black pepper and sea salt. And in carol both say that whatever best crisp server says frank and dorset are called to farmers havent heard of those ones. Oh havent heard of those ones. Oh theres a french one here. Jenny. Jenny says i recommend a french brand of crisps called bretts best flavour is goats cheese and pimento. I cant stand goats cheese. I love goats cheese. I love goats cheese. What about the truffle oil cnsps . What about the truffle oil crisps . People are very excited about truffle. Anything truffle all day long. Truffle, though, just giant rip off for quid for a packet of truffle crisps. And youre like, wheres the truffle . They are absurdly expensive. Yeah, i do quite like them. Quite, quite good. Freddie. Well, finish freddie. Well, lets finish on the mail. No on this story in the mail. No longer fancy your partner. They say doesnt youve say it doesnt matter. Youve got seconds. Got 35 seconds. Well, always thought well, ive always thought that is that physical attraction is overrated , and. And i think. Overrated, and. And i think. Well, i was telling carol earlier, i dont think my wife has ever fancied me. Oh, freddie. Oh, freddie. No, im not saying thats self pitying way. I mean, she married me. Married me. Have you got money . Have you got money . No , not really. No, not really. No, not really. Funny. Funny. Yeah , its not. Yeah, its not. Yeah, its not. It shouldnt be a problem later in life. It shouldnt be a problem. But yes, i think it is for some. Definitely for some women and for some men actually. I think, you know, they need to have that kind of knicker ripping thing or going all the time. Going on all the time. You theres help for households. Are you over state pension age . If your weekly income is below £201. 05, or £306. 85 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. Its worth, on average, £3,500 a year, and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus cost of living payments. Good morning. Its 9 00 on good morning. Its 9 00 on thursday, the 5th of october. Youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel at the stories weve been covering so far here on breakfast this morning , we look breakfast this morning, we look back at the Prime Minister announcing a range of policies, including a smoking ban, scrapping of a levels, axing of hs2 , northern link, adding that hs2, northern link, adding that people are right to be exhausted with politicians who are all talk and no action. Plenty of talk. In his Party Conference speech. Voters conference speech. But do voters actually think he is a man of action or that westminster is a broken system and the same goes for holyrood cardiff bay and stormont . It isnt anger, its an exhaustion with politics in particular. Politicians saying things and then nothing ever changing. Doing a report reveals changing. Doing a report reveals children from impoverished areas are way behind other pupils in maths and reading. Despite attempts to help catch up on their education. After the lockdown, response to the coronavirus pandemic , the coronavirus pandemic, airports in the future offer them bigger or smaller. For the city of derry shows the way with a new Business Model. And if you missed it, you can catch it online or here on gb news throughout the day. Gb news throughout the day. The average rent for homes across the country, excluding london, has reached a record high of nearly £1,300 a month in the capital, its more than double that. Double that. Our plans to monitor and calculate our Carbon Footprint. Okay so you wont be able to travel abroad unless youre in credit. Let us know your views on this. So it all depends on where youve travelled to that year as to where you will be allowed to go. And we invited a allowed to go. And we invited a panel of first time voters to watch the pms speech and well be bringing you their reaction and their thoughts. Jonathan and their thoughts. Jonathan vautrey will have the latest Weather Forecast. Its to going be a good weekend. A mixed bag of weather across the uk for the next couple of days. Join me later to find out if youll see the rain or the sunshine. Such a tease, jonathan i and of course, you can join in any of our discussions. Rain or sunshine. In any of our discussions. Rain or sunshine. Email gbviews gbnews. Uk or you can tweet at. Tweet at. Gb news. So it is our top story this morning. Weve been discussing it all morning. The Prime Minister yesterday laid out his vision that he hopes will keep him in number for another him in number 10 for another term. Term. There were a wide range of policy announcements which weve been throughout been talking about throughout the morning, the programme this morning, including confirmation of the scrapping of the hs2 link to manchester. Well, mark harper, hes the secretary of state for transport, told us earlier that the decision to cut short the hs2 route is not just about saving money. Facts have changed. You know, travel patterns have changed. Post pandemic. One of the really important arguments for hs2 was about business use and business and commuter traffic on the trains is now down by 50. Post pandemic. And the cost of the project have escalated. So the project have escalated. So the benefits of a much lower. So benefits of a much lower. So weve made a different decision. And the Prime Minister was clear that not clear yesterday that not everyone with it and everyone would agree with it and some party some people in our own party wouldnt with it. But wouldnt agree with it. But his job Prime Minister is to make job as Prime Minister is to make the right long term decisions for the country. Thats leadership and thats what he demonstrated yesterday. On your second point about the sort of process and so forth , weve been process and so forth, weve been working, this is a big decision. Were re were changing how were spending £36 billion of transport investment. Weve been transport investment. Weve been working on it for a considerable penod working on it for a considerable period of time. The decision, though, the formal decision, is my legal responsibility , and i my legal responsibility, and i took that decision on tuesday this week, and it was agreed by the cabinet on wednesday morning and then set out by the Prime Minister in his speech to the conference and to the country a short time after that. Short time after that. What about the money wasted . What about the money wasted . I mean, do you not have a sense of shame or regret over the money wasted . You could have money wasted . You could have been part of an amazing legacy project, you know, upgrading the victorian rail system instead of this sort of sticking plaster approach to things. Well i dont approach to things. Well i dont agree with that aim and i dont think the job of politicians in fact, Prime Minister talked about yesterday. Part of the problem is we dont want politicians who carry on something in their on doing something in their interests because of their legacy when the facts have changed and the project is no longer right. But this is so in in conservative partys interests. And rishi sunaks interest. Hes just bought himself £36 billion of votes or trying to well, no , of votes or trying to well, no, look, because. No, because there are people that wont agree with the project. Look, if all we wanted to was cheap popularity, to do was buy cheap popularity, wed have said we were to wed have said we were going to do other things and do all the other things and carry with hs2. Because carry on with hs2. But because we are serious about about winning and winning the election and delivering on those promises , we delivering on those promises, we had to make a choice. We had to say that if youre going to do these other things that are important for the country, youve got make youve actually got to make a decision to not do something else. And not everyone will like that. Make a that. So we had to make a decision and a choice. Thats what politics is about. Its about leadership. And thats what the minister showed what the Prime Minister showed this facts he this week. The facts changed. He made choice, a long made a different choice, a long term thats the term choice. Thats the interests country. And interests of the country. And hell run that record and hell run on that record and that approach to politics at the general election, which i think is contrast with what will is a big contrast with what will face from the labour party who dont make decisions about things, dont know to how deliver them. And i think when the public look at that choice, theyll give us the opportunity to serve again prime to serve again and the Prime Minister can continue minister can then continue delivering country and delivering for the country and taking long term decisions i its an important decision they made it on Tuesday Morning and announced it on wednesday. Professor of politics matt goodwin, with this one. I mean , goodwin, with this one. I mean, i put it to him and he didnt he didnt bat me away really on this. Theyve just tried to buy £36 billion worth of votes. Thats what this was about. And sunak paints himself as a man of action, a man of action. He has to be seen to be doing something so he cancel something and instead were led to believe the country is bankrupt. It. So instead saving that money, instead of saving that money, hes spending that money. Well, at some point hell be spending that money. But remember, the 36 billion wont really be coming in until the late 2020s. So voters up there in the north of england are not going to feel this same on this side of the election. Theyre probably really not even going side of the election. Theyre pr starty really not even going side of the election. Theyre pr start seeing not even going side of the election. Theyre pr start seeing this even going side of the election. Theyre pr start seeing this until going side of the election. Theyre pr start seeing this until the1g to start seeing this until the end current decade. Now, end of the current decade. Now, rishi sunaks team tell you rishi sunaks team will tell you that is about projecting that this is about projecting the of change and bravery the theme of change and bravery and taking on tough decisions. But remember that pledge in but remember that big pledge in 2019 to level up those Northern Areas . This is sort of just blown that apart. I mean , it blown that apart. I mean, it gives labour an enormous open goal at their conference to say, well , what about the north of well, what about the north of england . When is this stuff england . And when is this stuff going happen . Going to happen . Question who wrote pub quiz question who wrote this . No hs2 equals no ambition for our country. Just when the whole world is looking at us, now is the time to be ambitious i rishi sunak. Rishi sunak. Jeremy hunt. Okay, this is a jeremy hunt. Okay, this is a couple of years ago. Rachel reeves whos the shadow chancellor, whos retweeted it going, hows it going . Jeremy you know, is this an unambitious decision from the fact that David Cameron and Boris Johnson are two recent conservative Prime Ministers have come out and criticised rishi for it . You know, as you say , its not know, as you say, its not a popular move with lots of people. His own predecessors dont approve of. Whats the gamble . So he can make a gamble . Is it so he can make a tax cut ahead of the next election . So theres a bit of a saving there. Well, firstly, there no well, firstly, there is no room manoeuvre when it comes room for manoeuvre when it comes to money in the countrys to the money in the countrys bank you know, we have bank account. You know, we have got just just people not got just just people might not be this. We are paying be aware of this. We are paying £8 billion a just £8 billion a month, just serviced credit £8 billion a month, just servi just credit £8 billion a month, just servi just paying credit £8 billion a month, just servi just paying our credit £8 billion a month, just servi just paying our debt. £8 billion a month, just servi just paying our debt. So card, just paying our debt. So that gives you sense of just that gives you a sense of just how pressure the treasury how much pressure the treasury is under. So tax cuts certainly wont be forthcoming. This frees up 30. He had £36 billion, which he could have done something with against 36 billion. Says hes going to throw he says hes going to throw it Northern Rail it into those Northern Rail lines from east to west lines from from east to west rather north to south. But rather than north to south. But you know, what struck about you know, what struck me about this conference i was there this conference and i was there for it, the biggest for much of it, the Biggest Issue the country is cost issue in the country is the cost of living crisis. The of living crisis. Its the second biggest is the second Biggest Issue is the national and the second Biggest Issue is the natio biggest and the second Biggest Issue is the natio Biggest Issue and the second Biggest Issue is the natio Biggest Issue is and the third Biggest Issue is immigration. Weve come out of a conference talking about at a rail to Northern England rail line to Northern England and a smoking ban. Yeah so the conservative to me Just Conservative Party to me just sort of seems like its completely adrift from where the average voter is saying i need some help with with the sunak need help. Its interesting, you know, where he was trying to paint himself as a man of action. He changes things. Hes not just all hes going to do all talk. Hes going to do things. Keir things. Hes not like keir starmer. Not going to flip starmer. Hes not going to flip flop put to the flop and you put that to the voters. What do they say . Its looking good well, its not looking good for sunak at the moment. For rishi sunak at the moment. Only last week, eamonn, his his leadership ratings the leadership ratings hit the lowest hes become lowest level since hes become Prime Minister. The concern lives on average about lives are still on average about 15 points behind the labour party. So that suggests were still heading into either a labour majority government or some kind of labour Led Coalition in a in a kind of hung parliament. So what what number 10. And look, im bouncing messages with people in and around number 10, what theyre saying is between now and christmas as voters begin to tune in to sunak making these difficult decisions, theyll start to reassess his premiership. Thats the big hope. Whether or not voters out there and the viewers at home begin to reassess rishi sunak well have to wait and see. Do you think he got any political credit by . Were told the surprise appearance of his wife . I dont know if i buy it or not, but you know, it worked for the obamas. Michelle obama was electoral asset for was a huge electoral asset for president she made president obama. She made speeches she went. Speeches everywhere she went. Was same, do you think, was it the same, do you think, for rishi . I think a little bit i think its a little bit awkward sunaks because awkward with the sunaks because weve non dom tax weve also got the non dom tax issue that is still kind of swirling around and the family there is still a question around whether everyone in the sunak household pays the same amount of tax as the people that theyre imposing taxes on. Im not entirely convinced. Also, voters really read too much into the sort of the marriage factor. When i was at manchester, i would say, though, that all of the energy there was outside side of the mainstream leadership of the conservative party, the energy was around. What is liz truss saying . What are the truss sites saying the energy was around . Well, whats nigel farage doing walking through the Conference Centre being followed by being, you know, followed by lots people. So wheres lots of people. So wheres boris, he up to . The boris, whats he up to . The energy was just not with sunak. The energy was with a lot of other people who. Other people who. Matt are you saying that liz truss would have any sin prius chance of making a comeback . No , i dont think so, eamonn. No, i dont think so, eamonn. But the intellectual and the philosophical ideas that underpin truss, which is we cant go on with the highest tax burden since the Second World War. We cant go on with low growth, big state politics. So who of the leadership contenders i pin their their i think will pin their their their flag to that mast . Well, i their flag to that mast . Well, i think were probably going to be seeing a lot of people if the conservatives lose the next election, were going to be seeing a lot of people go for this. Theres going to be on the right of the party. Suella braverman will almost certainly go it. Kemi badenoch will go go for it. Kemi badenoch will go for what comes out for it. Lets see what comes out of new conservatives, the of the new conservatives, the kind danny kruger, kind of the danny kruger, miriam cates , lee anderson kind of cates, lee anderson kind of group. Then youve got the penny group. Then youve got the penny mordaunts who will say, mordaunts who will try and say, well, lets bring the party together. Go back to together. Lets go back to the stand up and lets do all of that. What is clear is this is a party that is heading into to a really big battle over what it is and what it believes. And is and what it believes. And that battle, i think, has only just started. There we go. Fascinate waiting. Matt, thank you very much indeed. Matt, thank you very much indeed. Matt goodwin is a indeed. Matt goodwin is a professor of politics and he was at the conservative Party Conference cheers. Conference this week. Cheers. Matt thank you. We were discussing , as we were just discussing, we were introduced to Akshata Murthy first time id murthy the first time id actually heard her actually think ive heard her speak she tried to speak properly. She tried to give of personal touch in give a sort of personal touch in all lets take a listen all of this. Lets take a listen. We will introduce the new rigorous knowledge rich, advanced British Standard, which will bring together a levels and t levels into a new single qualification for our School Leavers is first. This will finally deliver on the promise of parity of esteem between academic and technical education, because all students will sit the advanced British Standard. Second, we will raise standard. Second, we will raise the floor, ensuring that our children leave school literate and numerate because with the advanced British Standard all students will study some form of maths and english to 18 with extra help for those who struggle most in our country. No child should be left behind. Child should be left behind. Friend of the Programme Maths teacher himself. Bobby seagull teacher himself. Bobby seagull talks to us now about this and the Prime Ministers obsession. Bobby with mathematics and ramming it down. Everybodys throat. I dont wish to insult you because i know its your thing, but theres nothings going to teach me. Believe make me believe that i need to be studying or any child needs to be studying mathematics until theyre 18. And so i think with this sort of appreciate that the fact that we have a Prime Minister that really values the importance of having a really numerate nation and that again, for your daily checking, your bills, managing your household budgets, planning holidays , budgets, planning holidays, looking at payslips, she dont have to teach the maths. Have to teach the maths. Again, i think when the Prime Minister is talking about maths, i assume hes talking about making sure our new nation is more numerate. So of course we need the mathematicians, you know, who understand know, the ones who understand pythagorus trigonometry to create ai tech create the sort of ai and tech of the future. But we also need a nation where people can do basic numeracy. Think ehm, the basic numeracy. I think ehm, the status the Charity National status from the Charity National numeracy adults have numeracy that1 in 2 adults have the skills wed expect the numeracy skills wed expect from child. So from an 11 year old child. So were trying make were trying to make britain a really developed 21st century economy. We need that basic standard numeracy and standard of numeracy and maths to higher. To be much higher. And teacher you must see and as a teacher you must see differences in brain types. I mean, eamonn and i would always argue if we were in your class this youd put us in this morning, youd put us in the not the naughty corner, the dunces corner. We wouldnt be top maths class. Yes. Top of your maths class. Yes. But it was interesting to hear the saying he the Prime Minister saying he wants , equal wants equal respect, equal parity academic and for parity for academic and for technical. And this is this is a big move. I mean, something that you would welcome. You would welcome. Absolutely. Because know, since like 97 tony blair, when he talked about education, education, education, and weve had rising numbers of people going to university. And whilst had rising numbers of people gthinko university. And whilst had rising numbers of people gthink obviouslyty. And whilst had rising numbers of people gthink obviously universitiesst i think obviously universities should be an aspiration, it shouldnt automatic , oh, shouldnt be an automatic, oh, you to school, college, you go to school, college, university. I think people university. I think people should about the overall should think about the overall package. Country , we package. Again, as a country, we need people. Theres a school bell going on as a country, we need technical and vocational qualifications. We need people to be able to contribute again, apprenticeships, plumbing skills, buildings, maintenance, not just the sort of academic thing. So again, when we talk about academic and technical qualifications, that qualifications, we welcome that apologise for that school. Dont apologise. Youve got dont apologise. Youve got work to do, mate. Youve got work to do, mate. Youve got work and dont have us work to do and dont have us keeping back it. But keeping you back from it. But its really good getting your take got class take on things. Youve got class to attend to. Bobby seagull is a maths teacher speaking maths teacher and hes speaking to from london. But to us live from london. But class being called. You class is being called. Thank you very my friend. Very much indeed, my friend. Always to see you. Always love to see you. You. Britains newsroom thank you. Britains newsroom is half past nine. Is coming up half past nine. Andrew and bev turner Andrew Pierce and bev turner have been very busy up at conference up in manchester. Theyve make it back theyve managed to make it back in of rail strikes. In spite of those rail strikes. I if they were on the i dont know if they were on the gb news i was talking to gb news many i was talking to you via satellite there. I didnt realise you bless him. I was trying to fill their allowing you to sit down. We came on a very, very unsophisticated minibus. I tell you, gb news minibus is sophisticated. Who you sit next to . Who did you sit next to . Who did you sit next to . I was on a seat on my own, but there were people literally on the floor. Oh, dont break. Oh, no, dont break. Oh, no, dont break. Not make you yearn for an hs2 link. No, im very glad its scrapped because it was because it was going to cost an absolute fortune if they said 35 billion, 100 billion, was going to be. 100 billion, it was going to be. But why didnt they realise that long time ago . That a long time ago . I quite agree. Look, the optic announcing youre optic of announcing youre shutting manchester shutting down the manchester link a conference being link in in a conference being held railway held in a former railway station, central. Station, manchester central. Well, want answer, well, he didnt want an answer, did he didnt want it. No. He didnt want it. No. He didnt want it. No. Didnt want it. And it and he didnt want it. And it wasnt his project in the first place. It was labours. If place. It was labours. And if you Alistair Darling you go back, Alistair Darling was chancellor who brought you go back, Alistair Darling wa hs2. Chancellor who brought you go back, Alistair Darling wa hs2. Ask ncellor who brought you go back, Alistair Darling wa hs2. Ask him. Or who brought you go back, Alistair Darling wa hs2. Ask him now ho brought you go back, Alistair Darling wa hs2. Ask him now what ught you go back, Alistair Darling wa hs2. Ask him now what he ht in hs2. Ask him now what he thinks. Complete and total waste of not happen. Of money should not happen. Conservatives boris yeah, but conservatives boris and yesterday and cameron yesterday criticising publicly. And cameron yesterday crit but1g publicly. And cameron yesterday critbut boris publicly. And cameron yesterday crit but boris cancelled and cameron yesterday critbut boris cancelled the leeds but boris cancelled the leeds link. So who is he to lecture me . Oh , anyway, well be talking oh, anyway, well be talking about the rishi speech. I thought it was rather good. And the smoking ban. Very interesting. That not a banner . No, but i think actually hard to not. What did you think of rishi wife taking to the podium . Wife taking to the podium . Terrific. But she spoke for too long. Yeah, two minutes. Been great. And didnt been great. And why didnt she say thought . He say what she really thought . He never washing up or i never does the washing up or i bet does. Bet he does. I bet hes fastidious around the house. Yeah, he probably is. But she should have just given insight given us a little insight of what really like what its really like being married to the Prime Minister. Father, wonderful husband. Best friend. I thought was my best friend. I thought was cute. Why didnt she say, he cute. Why didnt she say, is he a great lover . No. Steady all right. Too no. Steady on. All right. Too much. Is britney much. Steady on. Is it britney that a fan of . That hes a big fan of . I remember hearing that he likes doing britney. Doing his spinning to britney. Anyway, her to move on. Anyway, we told her to move on. Sorry, andrew. We look fonnard to programme. To your programme. Come, we hear what still to come, we hear what our time voters panel, who our first time voters panel, who we the programme we had on the programme yesterday, of the prime yesterday, thought of the Prime Ministers to ministers speech, talking to them n ext next if you were watching this time yesterday , youll see that we yesterday, youll see that we assembled a Young Persons voting panel all over the far side of the studio asking them their views on what was coming out of the conservative Party Conference and indeed looking ahead to the Prime Ministers speech. Ahead to the Prime Ministers speech. Well, they watched it speech. Well, they watched it and this is what they thought there was one section where he was sort of just going off on a little rant by himself, this conservative party, the party that legislated for same sex marriage and is investing record amounts in child care. We know that. What matters is that love cascades down the generations , love cascading down generations, love cascading down your family just yeah, thats just a really weird way of flowery way of saying something which i dont. Thats another thing. I dont thats another thing. I dont think he actually got to a point with that. I think it was a bit cnnge with that. I think it was a bit cringe here and there, like some things he said. I feel like he was making statements felt like, statements where he felt like, oh is like a really good oh, this is like a really good statement. But it wasnt giving that. I think he tried quite hard to impress all the people in the conference under us. No more rip off degrees. No more rip off degrees. Students dont spend enough time in the classroom. Im a quarter in the classroom. Im a quarter of our children leave education without the basic literacy and numeracy. We they need to fulfil numeracy. We they need to fulfil their potential all and our students study too narrow a range of subjects. Yeah so that that really annoys me. Yeah. Yeah. I think gcse is are really good because it teaches us how to study a broad range of subjects and it gets us into some a lot of Different Things which we might be interested in and obviously things that we might not be interested in. But i think once your a levels , its a more your a levels, its a lot more personal your thats personal and thats your thats actually your first steps towards university or an apprenticeship like that. Everything i learnt up until that. Waserything i learnt up until that. Was16in1ing i learnt up until that. Was 16in terms. Earnt up until that. Was 16in terms of rnt up until that. Was 16in terms of maths until that. Was 16in terms of maths istil that. Was 16in terms of maths is all i was 16in terms of maths is all i was 16in terms of maths is all ineeded i was 16in terms of maths is all i needed to know. I dont need any numeracy skills. Im any more numeracy skills. Im happy with the skills ive got those key subject sets those who teach key subject sets in schools and for the first time in our further education colleges too will receive special bonuses of up to £30,000 tax free over the first five years of their career. You know, this whole bonus thing for teachers is incredible. I think teachers is incredible. I think teachers are like the best people ever, and i think they deserve the money in the deserve all the money in the world. But i think if youre only offering money only offering that money to teachers teaching teachers that are teaching essential subjects, will put essential subjects, it will put teachers off from teaching the other, more artistic subjects. Patients should know when hospitals are talking about men or women, and we shouldnt get bullied into believing that people can any sex they want people can be any sex they want to be. Cant. A man is to be. They cant. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. Thats just common sense. Hes thats just common sense. Hes got sex and gender complete mixed up with gender. Its your social identity. Let people express themselves however they feel like they want to be. What this lacks is compassion i smoking places huge pressures on the nhs and costs our country. £17 billion a year. We have a chance to cut cancer deaths by a quarter since significantly ease those pressures and protect our children. And we should take it. Children. And we should take it. Hes right in saying, you know, we need to stop it. But like the cause of, you know , kids and stuff isnt know, kids and stuff isnt cigarettes. Its definitely the cigarettes. Its definitely the cigarettes is vaping, especially around like a university campus, like youll go just around and see everyone just having a vape instead of cigarettes. Now, smoking has been a very big problem in the past, but its not that prevalent anymore i i i mean the marketing for it as well is ridiculous. They come out with new flavours like unicorn shake and vapes that look like ice creams, and its just its blatantly made for teenagers. So do you still vape a lot then . Yeah, in the long term, then . Yeah, in the long term, i think it is a good thing that were phasing out smoking and that. Yeah he has the right idea. I just im not really sure raising the age gap. What would you say is the is a better solution then . No idea. Thats for them to figure out. Im not for me. I like her honesty. Dont ask me the solution. But she can identify what the problem is. Were guilty that, arent were all guilty of that, arent we . Got a better idea. We . Ive got a better idea. They were all collectively superb to talk to and to listen to. And i thought, again, very incisive entertaining incisive and very entertaining about what they had to say about what they they had to say. I mean, the Prime Minister, theres things that they say a quarter of people leave school innumerate and illiterate. Well i a lot of people. I mix with a lot of people. I havent anybody innumerate havent met anybody innumerate or illiterate , what have or illiterate, what have you. Yeah youve met a innumerate. People and illiterate people. Yeah, people who cant write a text message. Terrible spelling. Terrible spelling. Terrible spelling. Thats not being a terrible grammar, thats what. Yeah, yeah. But mind you, predictive but mind you, my predictive text, i look illiterate most of the time. Thats it. From us for this week. Bright and week. Well be back bright and early week at his andrew early next week at his andrew and with whats up next in and bev with whats up next in whatever good morning to you. 930 on thursday, the 5th of october. This is britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner. Its finally happened. Very good morning. The Prime Minister to hs2. Hes unveiled goodbye to hs2. Hes unveiled the 36 unveiled the £36 billion Network North transport project to replace the high speed line between manchester and birmingham. Birmingham. Common sense or offence . Sunak faces criticism for his comments about transgender people. What was offensive . Take people. What was offensive . Take a listen. A listen. We shouldnt get bullied into believing that people can be any sex they want to be. They cant. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. Thats just common sense i just stop. Oil strike again just stop. Oil strike again last night. They brought a performance of les murs at the sondheim theatre in to london a