8:00 here in los angeles. this is america's late news, "fox news @ night". >> starting right now i'm about to tell you the truth. this version of biden intellectually, analytically, is the best biden ever. not a close second. >> trace: if he was ceo and he turned in a performance like that would any corporation keep him on? >> he could not even respond effectively on the issue of abortion where for some reason he darted wildly to the issue of immigration. >> trace: breaking tonight, the lying liberal media just got caught red handed. because when democrats hit the panic button the mainstream media turned on president biden. issuing a scathing review of his poor performance. many even calling for biden to step down, the very same media mind you that just yesterday was a biden's biggest cheerleader, telling you not to believe your eyes or ears when it comes to joe biden's mental fitness. one critic says the people closest to joe have some explaining to do. >> i think that his advisers, i think the white house, i think his family have a lot of explaining to do to their party, into the american people. and private meetings, i have seen joe biden do cartwheels and handstands while doing trigonometry and solving all the nations problems. we now know that every single person who said that has been lying to the american people. >> trace: you just have to look at the faces of these americans across the nation who tuned into last night's debate. they might agree. senior national correspondent kevin corke is live in b.c. with growing calls for biden to suspend his campaign. >> a motion for tens of millions of americans who watch the debate last night ranging between surprised, amusement, discuss -- discussed, and for some, downright depression. what is also on escapable he too is this. the joe biden that the media was housing all that -- not that long ago definitely was not the one on the debate stage last night. >> what is remarkable is the perception of biden, he is old, feeble, his cognitive is not good. when he actually speaks he sounds perfectly normal, vigourous, and did control. >> the universal reaction was somewhere approaching panic. the people who were texting with me were very concerned about president biden seeming extremely feeble, sea mink extremely weak. >> trace: extremely feeble, extremely weak. that is not all. even the ladies of the view who previously were convinced of mr biden's political invincibility were shaken, not stirred following that debate performance. >> everybody has a senior moment. >> i agree. it is just have a is. >> it is not there for the guy. >> if he is thinking and he stutters. overcome with a lot of disabilities, the poor guy. he has lived a lot. >> it paints be to see this today but i think that president biden needs to step down. >> i think what we saw is that biden lost the debate. maybe he needs to go and be honest with himself. and the american people. you can bow about at this time with grace and dignity, he is a record he can be proud of. >> trace: while that reaction seemed pervasive throughout the media ecosystem, one question remains tonight. why are they acting surprised. a great question, kevin corke life for us in b.c. [ ♪♪ ] >> trace: the fox news commonsense department thinks the liberal road media talks a lot about lies, especially for people who lives a lot. for almost one year liberal media outlets have been telling, a rather insistent to the audience that president biden is on the top of his game. just weeks ago msnbc's joe scarborough said quote, this version of joe biden is the best ever. other anchors on his networks at the age attack on biden it is a quote, exception of the right, and wild speculation. cnn, the new york times, and others, have warned their viewers to stop listening to fox news not just about biden's age but the border crisis, inflation, rise in crime. the left writes them off as conspiracy theories, that is until alito -- illegal immigrants to start killing and biden starts talking. suddenly the best version of biden needs to be replaced. and bc's chuck todd even said quote, biden looks like the caricature that conservative media has been painting. media lies are not new from laptops and bounty gate to collusion and the biden debate. the gaslight and goes on until the gas lighters get burned. the old joke is that the soviets had two tv channels, channel one was state propaganda, channel to so turned back to china one. common sense thinks modern american media has that soviet sent. with that we bring a new york post reporter lydia morning can, former democratic senator candidate for california christina kikuchi. thank you for coming on. do you first, alisha. we have been lied to by the media about the topic and for many others. >> we have not just been lied to by the media but by hearty -- hollywood, liberal donors, the most elite in our society who have been hanging with joe biden and attending these events, and telling us he is okay. those things were just cut up by joe rogan, they were just cut up by right-wing media and fox news except they haven't. we saw last night and was actually ingenious of the trunk campaign to agree to all of the rules that the biden administration set forth and say we will debate you on your turf, no changes. so the average american voter, and even a lot of democratic parties and democratic voters could tune in and see just about the president is. >> trace: and nobody knows, nobody loves joe biden more than the new york times. jamie, he ran as a democrat, and the new york times writes the following quotes and cure to surface country president biden should leave the race. we got to say supporters of the president already explaining the debate as one big prank with three years of accomplishments, but this cannot be written off as a bad night or written off as a suppose it cold because it refers to concerns that had been bouncing for months or even years. the new york times doing it? that is like tom brady saying that... needs to be scrapped. >> last night was a sad night for americans no matter which candidate you support you want your commander-in-chief to do well, to appear strong. our adversaries are watching. you have russian state tv mocking our president today. nobody wants that, clearly. i have spoken to people who said that they were never going to vote for president trump. these are independent, and undecided voters who are now saying that there is a path to that for them. one, of president biden continues to appear to decline, and number 2 if president trump continues to control the media like he did in the debate. the next few days we barely -- very telling. >> trace: alex castellano on special report said the following i thought it was instructive. watch. >> what americans saw was in this group of advisors sent joe biden into the jungle to kill a lion naked and without a spear and that scared the country. moments like this last a long time. they define elections. last night was a defining moment for joe biden. >> trace: last night the lion won that fight. >> that is an understatement. he had 16 advisors, i think that is too many cooks in the kitchen and it is clear they tried to get them to memorize all of these factoids that he and his age clearly was not able to do. you could tell he started speaking, trying to rattle off all of these numbers that he kept messing up. added 15,000 jobs, there were 1000, trillion brazilian ears. that is not a good strategy for them. he did not look alert, he did not look well, that is something that the advisors really should have focused on. these soundbites will haunt him for the rest of the campaign. >> trace: not too long ago joe biden said watch him and it was not pretty. >> the democratic party has been lying to the american people, on the issue on the other foot here, this is a republican candidate making the same mistakes and looking that pitiful on the international stage, i would be staying that he should go. >> trace: in the meantime, before the debate, if there was a crisis that put the country at risk in which you want to the over office? look at the number. chum fiftyone, biden 43 %. >> i think a lot of this goes back to trust in general. for much -- months kevin mentioned in his report where they surprise? we are not surprised by this. people have been telling me what i was running for office i was asked would you support, or do you think that president biden should be the nominee queue back and i had to be honest. the signs were already there. they had been there for months or why were people surprised at this? >> trace: lydia, what you think? >> shutting them down. the party was shut down, the ability for you guys to have a legitimate primary to have a legitimate debate, to have this go to a convention. >> trace: and a lot of people brought that up. >> that is right. >> trace: but i am wondering lydia morning time does the media to a 180? on monday are they suddenly back in biden's court. >> what is fascinating is the fact the new york times has called for him to step down. that is really significant when you have new york times is basically the house or can for democratic party side of the diverging dramatically with what other biden surrogates like obama are saying they want to support him. so clearly that is going to be sending reverberations through the entire democratic -- democratic party and whether or not he survives that remains to be seen. >> trace: anybody's guess. lydia, alisha, christina thank you. in the meantime white house officials appear to be realizing the seriousness of the situation after spending so much time the last three and a half years propping up the president. channel he is life with more on that. >> good evening, we are seeing the reaction of those closest to the president, to initiate -- initiate immediate damage control. biden's second-in-command clashed with cnn's... cooper last night. >> can you say that you were not concerned at all having to watch the president's performance tonight. >> it was a slow start. i will not debate that point. >> also committed to the president's immediate with his wife, first lady sheila biden praising his performance at a rally. >> you did such a good job, you answered every question. >> today despite overwhelming negative backlash and even calls for him to drop out of the presidential race, the crowd that gathered to support biden's campaign rally in north carolina did not seem affected at all. [applause] >> but many wonder what is really happening behind the scenes. some clues made headlines today with this cnn reporter posting that according to an advisor to the president biden has no plans to drop out of the race, and will be at the second debate scheduled in september. while this bbc reports or posting the white house is keeping all options on the table at this point. in fact,, a well-known hedge fund manager it shared some making waves posting quote,... claim and barack obama are having a sitdown with the president today. the first lady is insisting that biden runs. pamela is furious that she is not being considered as a replacement. meanwhile, some democrats on capitol hill seat biden stepping aside as an extreme option. >> he had a tough night. i do not think we need to overreact. >> i would rather have joe biden with a bad cold for 90 minutes then donald trump for america, to lie, to lie, to lie. >> still many democratic supporters are angry that white house officials did not ring the alarm bells sooner to address the hard truths apparent to seemingly everybody last night. >> trace: thank you. we bring an hour and see surrogate head cook along with the director of the independent women's law centre former white house attorney make... thank you both for coming on. that, you first. he was the former white house strategist paul... >> here is the risk, if any of them called me i would say look, the first politician to step down is going to end their career. there are a dozen governors in my party who are strong candidates. confidence in at least. none of them are going to say, hey,, let me step forward and night the julius caesar. right? >> trace: meg, tell me if you were in this position and you had trump with biden's kind of mental acuity would you tell him? would you let him know? >> that should be on joe biden. i mean dr joe biden should i add it. here is the funny part, it is like the democratic party discovered that biden was old yesterday. but that is not the case. they have already known. my theory is that everybody on the debate is that, okay,, let's use this opportunity to kind of make waves that he should step down. let's see if he gets the message. he did not get the message. there is no way to individually get it through to him at this point. >> trace: i think that is fair. senator john fetterman posted this on x. quoting here, he says morning after thermonuclear beat downs from the debate and pulling geniuses like 538 protected i would lose by two and what happened? the only seat to flip an historic margin. he says she'll be f. out. talking about joe biden. what do you think about that? is a tough to chill out when you see the president mentally struggling? >> absolutely not, trace. this continues to show you the arrogance of democrats. they continued to put politics over the american people. if anybody was advising joe biden as they did for six days to prep them for the debate the number 1 thing that they should have said was you cannot make 30 seconds. you are not going to make it 90 minutes, you will not make it next thing. you have to put the american people first, it is time to bow out, biden. they did not. they're not going to. this is the arrogance that will defeat them in november. >> trace: how is it done? how do you get them? how to get joe biden to babos and then what you do after that? was the person that you bring in? >> i guess the strategy is to get top democratic leaders, and his wife,'s sister,'s family members, to tell if it is time to go. as we all saw, she is shoving them out there. she is responsible for elder abuse. i think absent but putting jill biden and joe for outer abuse i do not think there is any path to get joe biden to say i didn't want to be president. when i am in my late eighties i do not want to be president. it is not seem like an enjoyable thing when you are elderly. >> trace: and to you, joe biden today said he is in, he is staying for the long-haul, and he is in for that second debate. do you think there will be a second debate? do you think he is in for the long coquilitam. >> he is definitely not an for the long-haul he will not make it until the second debate. trace, he will be replaced. mark my words. he is not going to make it. the democrats have been scamming the american people. cnn and all these other networks that had meltdowns they knew that joe biden was going to have an awful night. they put them out there on stage for the american people to witness his implosion. it is only a matter of time. dr jill biden needs to have a talk with her husband and get him out now. >> trace: thank you both. we want to show you some realtime reaction to last night's debate. the associated press capture these pictures of how americans across the country felt throughout those 90 minutes. there is no sound. but it is worth pausing just to watch. >> trace: i mean, right? it feels like each of the images our worth more than 1000 words. with that let's bring into voters who might be feeling the same way, and outspoken chicago resident, and a lifelong democrat who says he is voting for trump this time around. thank you both for coming around. reuters wrote the following i am absolutely voting for donald trump, undecided voters react to biden's debate. undecided voters unable to choose before -- between biden and trump before the debate delivered their verdict and it was almost universally bad news for biden. of the 13 undecided, ten describe the 81-year-old democratic president's performance against republican candidate as befuddled, embarrassing, difficult to watch. what do you think? >> i agree. with all of the talk about biden i think it is important to know also held that there is a former president trump seemed. he is not so young either. he is pushing 80. you look very strong, powerful, in command. he used all of his time. i honestly think that president trump has improved compared to four or eight years ago. i do not vote for him then but i would use of this time. he has gravitons i have not seen before. >> trace: and your thoughts on that? >> one of the reasons that my rose coloured glasses slipped is that i have often felt that the democratic party takes the american voters for granted. this is a clear example of that. why in the world would somebody like president biden be in front of us as a candidate currently for president when we all saw yesterday that he is not ready to take on this job for another four years? i'm sorry. >> trace: go ahead. >> and this is why one of the reasons i am supporting donald trump. i am tired of seeing the democratic party take the american voters for granted. >> trace: and you know, the whole thing daniel, a lot of people said today biden was fined today. he looked like his old self. except he was reading a teleprompter, and there is a big difference between handling information, and trying to process it, and simply reading teleprompter. i know i am doing it. >> we're talking about the president of the united states, on the local dogcatcher. frankly, i don't know if anybody would vote for biden for dogcatcher. i would not let him walk my dog he can't be left alone for five minutes. it is beyond embarrassing. we are a global laughingstock. we cannot have such a person running our country. it is an insult to all of the american people. >> trace: to you, if the polls next week show significant drop in biden's numbers does he get out. i have 30 seconds. >> i would like to think that he would've. but you know what? given the way that things have gone with the democratic party he probably won't. i hope that they will put america first and allow another candidate to take his place. >> trace: who would be that candidates very quickly? >> i am supporting donald trump so i do not really care. >> trace: thank you both we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> trace: in the meantime, to make up, biden went out on the campaign show today but the political whispering was loud and it was clear about who might take us placed on the democratic ticket. what we are learning about that, next. and later in the night. >> i think president biden needs to step down. >> what you said to the democrats were saying biden should quit? >> stay the course. chill out. chill out. >> trace: with the state? when he go. democrats and media pundits predicate after joe biden's alarming debate performance last night. even struggling to step off the stage. some are calling for him to step down. others are saying that he just had a bad night. if you cannot join us five, do not forget to set your dvr and check in with us on x. and instagram @tracegallagher because we will read your responses. coming up.when'll keep those expectations with reliable ground shipping. thanks brandon. with usps ground advantage®. ♪ what tractor supply customers experience is personalized service. made possible by t-mobile for business. with t-mobile's reliable 5g business internet. employees get the information they need instantly. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. 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[cheers and applause] >> trace: following last night's historic presidential debate it was right back to the campaign trail for the former president and the current president although joe biden was also in full damage control mode and north carolina. the latest on what the two candidates told their supporters. >> the first lady took the mic to open president biden's first probably since last night's debate disaster to passionately promote her husband's success as he looked on. >> at this moment with these girls, the world is facing there is nobody that i would rather have sitting in the oval office right now and my husband. >> during that campaign event any time there was a heckler in the crowd, the crowd would just drown them out. the crowd chanting their support amid widespread criticism of his debate performance and several previously supportive media outlet suggesting that he should not run. president biden prepared remarks from a teleprompter. >> i give you my word as a biden i would not be running again if i did not believe with all of my heart and soul that i can do this job. [cheers and applause] >> the stakes are too high. the stakes are too high. >> former president trump was in virginia today for a campaign event and touched on president biden's performance thursday night. >> despite the fact that cricket joe biden spent the entire week at camp david resting, working, studying, he studied very hard, he studied so hard he did not know what the hell he was doing. >> president biden departing at this stage to the late tom petty's won't back down. perhaps signalling that he has no plans to bow out. >> trace: that is what it signals. thank you. let us bring in the host of everybody set her down podcast among others. before the debate, we were told her that biden is the main candidate. he is the guy. trump is the one who has the mental problems. why? >> he is unhinged. he is delusional. >> i am worried about president trump's mental capacity. i am worried about his ability to control himself. i really am. >> i think he is a little bit more unhinged. >> trace: does anybody anymore believe anything that gavin wilson says to the world? he just comes out and you think have you thought about this? the whole world is looking at joe biden and you were saying look at the other person. >> this is hollywood for ugly people. this is defeat -- tc. gavin is not that ugly on the outside but he is ugly on the inside. he is an actor. i think him being trotted out nationally right now is the democrats believing that they can tell a story to the american public with his face, and his voice. they do not want anybody to look at the substance because he has run california into the ground. >> trace: there was a lot of evidence to support that. the daily mail did ask a very fair question. working here, why was gavin newsom conveniently front and centre before and after the debate defendant joe biden? a lot of people have asked why was he debating rhonda santos? why was he in china? why was he in alabama? why? he clearly wants to be president. i think he was planning on 2028. but in the back of his mind if you put truth serum in it he probably thought that just in case something happens, in 2024 i will position myself to be ready. i think that he is probably one of their most effective circuit so they wanted him out there. i think that he clearly has as i am being president but he is saying the right things now. he is think it will not abandon biden. that is what almost out like the democrats are saying for now. >> and you think he would accept but i mean the truth is to think that he is really a workable solution to this mess? >> i think after last night pretty much any mainstream, and a democrat and elected office gives democrats a better chance. the question is what gives you a better chance? winning the presidency right now. i would think that pretty much, that said although newsom does have upside has a ton of baggage in california we know him pretty well. i think you would be the democrats best chance if they were to replace joe biden. >> you set up side, and she is laughing. why is she laughing? no upside. >> there was no absent. the only upset to gavin newsom is that he is fake, and he is thick. he is a slick talker, you can tell the story. if he can convince the voters that whatever story bs that he is telling his crew, you can get people to vote for them. but if you look underneath the surface again, he has a brew with our state. there is a mass exodus of people, he held to that state of emergency for three years in a role that king george the third longest train of usurpations. >> trace: and people should follow the rest of that thing. hedge fund manager, insider, doug says what i am hearing regarding joe biden and barack obama having to sit down with the president today. jill biden is insistent that joe biden runs, column -- kamala harris' few issues not be considered as a replacement. it will be an important tell if the fundraiser is cancelled. both of you can start. eric? >> i think if i did that right now i think that he will be replaced. it will not happen right away. i think the breaking point will be with the postdebate polls come out. every major outlet will be pulling the next week. if he is down six, eight, ten points. river trump is an advantage in the electoral college. biden or democrat has to win the popular vote by three or four points. if he is down six, eight he has basically no chance. >> trace: you been six or eight more. >> sorry, down. so he can be done six, nine, ten. i think at that point they would come to him privately first like republicans came to nixon in 1974. right? and if that does not work than i think that you have to go public if you our democrat. maybe three or four have to go together because obviously one goes up by themselves they are putting themselves on the line. >> trace: if you stand by six, seven points overall at some swing states will be tough. >> i am more concerned about the immediate future. i think watching the debate i felt like i was personally in danger. or country is in danger we are and 25th amendment territory. he needs to step down. he is a zombie. >> trace: a lot of people have echoed those very sentiments today. julie, erica, thank you both. coming up, one state superintendent is requiring that the bible be taught in all public schools. it is a "fox news @ night" exclusive and it is next. plus, and adorable baby hippo. have you seen this? 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(♪) start to get yourself back, with bimzelx. ask your dermatologist about bimzelx today. >> trace: it is a fox news that night exclusive. the conservative effort to reintegrate christian values into the youth network with oklahoma state superintendent ryan walters to magic all public schools in the scooter state teach the bible including the ten commandments. we bring an fox news contributor and pastor robert jeff rose and superintendent ryan walters. gentleman, thank you both. do you first, superintendent, what you say to critics like you just heard moments ago who believed that that you are indoctrinating these kids. >> what an embarrassing thing for them to say. the left has been pushing indoctrination on our kids by forcing pornography like gender language in the classroom and they have driven the bible out of schools. for 30 years we have seen the supreme court weaponized the left wing radicals weaponized the bible and schools. there is an incredible historical context of the role that the bible played in american history. you hear from thomas jefferson talking about all right speak endowed upon us by our creator. you hear martin luther king jr. talking about it with a civil rights movement, our kids need to understand the role of the bible played in american history. that is why the left is so angry right now. president trumpets thought to put the bible back in schools. you put supreme court justices on the court that will actually look at what the constitution set and it is clear, that our founders have christian values, when the incident in this country. >> trace: pastor jeff, to you, the new york times said quoting here, the efforts to bring religious text in the classroom reflect the growing movement among conservatives particularly catholics and evangelicals who oppose abortion, transgender rights, and what they called liberal curriculums to openly embrace the idea that america's democracy needs to be grounded in their christian values. what is your feeling on bibles and schools. >> i am all for it. you know what? people forget, trace, for the first 150 years of our country's history bible reading, prayer, learning the ten commandments with a part of the normal classroom experience. was just in the last 60 years that the left has been engaged in a rabid effort to remove any acknowledgement of god from the public schools. 1962, moving prayer, 63, bible reading, 1980 stone versus grantor removing the ten commandments. i would ask your viewers, trace, tonight is our country better off or worse off since we started removing any acknowledgement from god from the school's? there is a scripture verse that says where there is no word for god the people perish. our children are perishing in immorality. addictions, gone by this, and trans gender confusion all because we are forgotten -- we have forgotten god it. i think men who are helping return our country to its historic judeo-christian faith ... >> trace: freedom from religion president dan barker says maybe this will improve the time that oklahoma superintendent of education expenses time regarding education instead of religion. this will go to the court, are you ready for the fight? is it worth it? >> i cannot wait to defend this measure in court. we have very clear, legal backing here. it is clear from our history that this is a historic document. 's academic malpractice do not have the bible and your curriculum, to not tell young people about the role that the bible played in american history. we will defend it, we will win it, we will have the bible in every classroom in oklahoma and our kids would know the story of what made america great. >> trace: and should other religions also be included in this? >> no. they should not. america has always welcome people of all faith or no faith. with the supreme -- supreme court said in 1844, 1855, that america was founded as a christian nation. we live in a christian nation. newsweek magazine did an article years ago about how the bible made america and it concluded, it can be said that the bible perhaps more than the constitution has been our nation's founding documents. that is news worthy. >> i have to go, superintendent. >> trace: tell me in ten seconds why is it so important to you that the bible be in oklahoma schools? >> you cannot understand american history without the bible. our kids cannot understand why the founders said our rights came from god. young people will never understand how america became exceptional without understanding the incredible impact that the bible had on our history, the impact it had on the leaders in america. your kids have to know that for america to be great. >> trace: superintendent ryan walters, pastor ryan -- jeff. thank you. first up in tonight's viral videos. welcoming a baby pygmy hippo that has gotten over 15 million views on social media. the zoo says they will release the official name in july after the public's had a chance to weigh in. aircraft backed up today. a total of 23 flights cancelled because the plane had its breaks overheat blocking the runway of london airport tough way to start the weekend but better safe than sorry. the lakers drafted ronnie james, lebron james oldest sun and the second round of the draft. is to be the first ever father sent to multiply on the same team at the same time in nba history. if you have a bible video to share share with us @tracegallagher or @foxnewsnight on social media. >> i am in north carolina for one reason. i intend to win the state in november. [cheers and applause] >> when you get knocked down you get back up. >> give that teleprompter a raise and a promotion. that might do it. >> trace: still to come the question that everybody is asking. will bide and step down or well he step -- step down and go the distance. if he does step down who do you think that he will -- will replace them? x., and instagram, we will read your responses. coming up tonight. ayments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food programme empower families across the globe. ♪ >> trace: we're back with the nightcap crew. tonight topic biding his time. many democrats and pundits are panicking after his alarming performance of the debate last night. some are calling for him to step down while others say that he just had a bad night. what do you think? will he go the distance of selection or whether he step aside? you just step aside what will the democratic party do? who will replace him? >> he will not leave unless they dragged him off the stage kneels down toes up. if he does leave it would have to be michelle obama if they are serious. >> trace: the second time i have heard that name today but i do not know about that. pastor jeffers? >> biden may have had a bad night but if he wins reelection america will have another bad for years. i do not think it matters where biden stays or if he drops out trumpet wins either way and therefore america wins. >> trace: it is interesting because you go to this whole thing and we asked eric smith earlier about this what is the scenario. how to get into it? how to get out of it? your question is what you think you meant does he stay? does he go. what is the replacement. >> i think it was a fatal blow. i think you will go. i think it will take a few weeks and i think he will go. i think the best that they have is gretchen which in her and... democrats have to win in michigan and pennsylvania. if they were those two states they will probably win the presidency. they are the two governors of those states, one has been reelected, the other is a moderate. that gives it a chance to win that is what is about. >> trace: the problem comes in, christina, i do not pull very high. all of these names, they do not pull for anything. >> which is why i think we saw president obama, and president clinton speaking out and standing firmly behind president biden. also i have heard from sources within the democratic party that biden feels resolute. he is no intention of stepping down even in light of what happened. i think he is sticking to his guns. >> i think if he was going to step down he would already have done it months ago. i think that they want to keep forging forward. >> trace: julian? >> 25th amendment removal. you think i am joking but that was scary. we are in a very precarious position as a country right now. i think the ticket is going to be harris. >> trace: could be. i think he does step down. i have no idea who will replace them. after last night's debate will joe biden stay in the world? -- coquilitam 53 % go. did you see jill biden space connection is not going everywhere. joe does not have a choice in the matter. susan says when the fundraising stops in the post- decline he will be pushed out with gavin in. leo says he will try to step aside but get confused and follow her. surely says too stubborn to give in. live to ride, it is elder abuse. two wheel travel says his and jill biden will not let him drop out there were too many damn -- enablers around him. we will see because the poles will start coming out about him. thank you all, thank you for watching america's news at night. 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