this morning. welcome to "with sunday morning futures," i'm maria bartiromo. today, political persecution. president trump gears up for the fight of his life after what he called a rigged trial and and election interference. just ahead, trump organization executive vice president and president trump's son, eric trump is here on next steps after the former president is found guilty of falsifying business records. plus, the verdict sparking a wave of support for the 45th president with money flooding in to his campaign. the campaign locking up $50 million in 24 hours after the verdict. capped with an additional $100 tomillion from a major donor if as a 45 goes to bright with blue new jersey for the ufc fight, and the crowds rally behind him. [cheers and applause] maria: coming up, former u.s. attorney and director of martial intelligence john ratcliffe on why the guilty verdict does not seem to matter to trump's supporters. plus, former white house senior adviser and america first legal president stephen miller along with arizona senate candidate kari lake with reaction. plus, dr. anthony fauci facing the music this week on capitol hill. why was vaccine maker moderna paying fauci during the pandemic? kentucky senator and senate homeland security ranking member rand paul hate of fauci on the record testimony monday on capitol hill. it's all a right here, or right now on "sunday morning futures." ♪ maria: and we begin this sunday morning with america in uncharted territory. for the first time in its 247-year history, a conviction of a former president and the impact so far. since trump was found guilty last week of 34 counts of falsifying business records, president trump told me yesterday that he has raised nearly $200 million in the last few days including $100 million reportedly from one donor if alone, sheldon adelson's widow, miriam. >> the good news is that i think we've set a record beyond all records for fund raising. maria: and the president told me that specifically it was chose to $200 million immediately following the verdict, the donation web site for the trump campaign crashed with a record number of small donors looking to make a contribution to the campaign. the president's legal team confirmed it will appeal the ruling, and the campaign said within hours of the decision the money flooded in, raising a record $34.8 million in small donor donations, in just a few hours. 30 of that total from new -- 30% of that total from new donors. the case, of course, brought by alvin bragg after federal prosecutors mt. southern district of new york declined to charge trump. judge juan merchan set the sentencing for july 11 11th, four days before the republican national convention opens in milwaukee. with just 156 days before the election, former trump senior counselor kellyanne conway with me friday on "mornings with mafia" on fox business saying the verdict does not change much for most americans. >> the fact that a joe biden is every minute, every second of 811 years old, that's not going to get any better between now and november. kamala harris can't put a sentence together even when it's piped into a teleprompter. and when you ask them what would you do on inflation, the answer, trump, energy independence, trump, the middle east, trump, ukraine, trump, their entire campaign is built around taking down donald trump rather than lifting up america. maria: joining me now is the executive vice president of the trump organization and president trump's son, eric trump. eric, thanks very much for being here this morning. if. >> morning, maria. maria: you've been with your father every today in that courtroom. you saw all of this play out, and and you watched the impact. what can you tell us this morning? your reaction. >> well, it's a tale of two cities. i to if into a courthouse, and i see absolute corruption from a judge, a judge whose daughter is fund raising off my father effectively going to jail. a one-sided court, and then i was there with him last night by his side as we walked into ufc 302, and you see 40,000 people many prudential go absolutely crazy. the entire night they were chanting usa, usa, usa, we love donald trump. i mean, in the middle of a fight, i cannot tell you how many times that chant broke out. this country loves donald trump. you just mentioned a second ago a that the judge scheduled sentencing for four days before the rnc convention in milwaukee. the republicans' biggest day of the entire campaign cycle. their big vent. right? their big slow show, the judge puts it four days -- the american people are not stupid, maria. they see exactly what's going on. they're turning donald trump into a martyr. no one believes in the world that they're sentencing the 45th president of the united states of america and a person who will likely be the 47th president of the united states to 34 felony counts for $130 to,000 payment that was invoiced as a legal expense that was written as a legal expense eight years ago. no one believes it, especially as, you know, people get slashed and killed in new york. and as alvin -- let me just finish with this -- as alvin bragg was sitting there in the final arguments, a maniac was yielding a machete in a mcdonald's in times square slashing three different people. i mean, that's the state of new york right now, maria. yet they're going after a former president, and their biggest adversary for $130,000 eight years ago. and that's why my father got the reaction he got last night and the latest poll that came out about three seconds ago has my father up another six points. people do not buy in this sham. they see through it for what it is. maria: so what have you seen in the way of money raising? i spoke with president trump yesterday, he said it's nearly $200 million. that is astounding. is that number correct? where does that number come from? >> well, this might be, this might be a little inside information, but as a i was leaving my house about a 37 seconds ago, i asked my wife what are we up to now, and she said just in terms of small dollar, we're well over $70 million. this is $21 donations, $43 donations, right? if you add the large dollar donations to it, you're over $200 million. but you're over $700 million anf those people have never been seen before by a political party. these are americans who are p if issed -- p if issed off and they want to support a guy who they just believe is getting bamboozled by a system. we saw it with impeachment one, impeachment two, and we see it where they weaponize every liberal t.a. and a.g. across the country with one intent, to take him down, to ruin his reputation, to try and divide his family are, to try and bankrupt him, to throw him in jail, to do whatever the hell they can do. and america sees through it. they know exactly what's going on. al a capone if had one count, one felony count. donald trump has 34? over $1300,000 eight years ago? if a case that everybody dropped, a case that no one would pick up and something that was completely legal? maria: so -- >> in front of a sham judge who gets every anti-trump case? if the probability of this judge getting every single anti-trump case would be like 11 in 26 million. -- 1 in 26 million. it's supposed to be random, maria, you know that. it's not. they're spoon feeding it to a guy whose daughter is making a lot of money off these cases. maria: yeah. we're going to speak with the former dni, john ratcliffe, in a moment. and he told me this weekend this was coordinated with the biden administration. he's going to go through some of the things that he believes happened in terms of meetings with white house counsel. is that what you're saying, that this comes from the white house and joe biden? >> oh, there's no question about a it, maria. i mean, the number three at the doj, a guy named michael coangelo, he left the doj go into the d.a.'s office in new york city to prosecute everything donald trump. he got denoted from the if doj in washington, d.c., the number three, to go to new york to prosecute everything donald trump. where do you think that came from? of course, it's weaponization of the system. biden can't make it up a flight of stairs, he can't get through a sentence without stumbling. he certainly couldn't do an interview like this. so how do they do it? go after him criminally, civilly, go of after his family, subpoena if his friends, they do everything they possibly can. they pull every single string to try and take the guy out of the race. the problem is americans are really, really smart, and they get it. there's only so many times you can cry wolf before people see through it, and that's why my father had the reception he had last night, 40,000 people going absolutely nuts chanting usa. they want their leader or back, the person back who will actually fight for the united states of america. and that's why we're going to win. we're going to win on november if 55th. maria: well, you just said the big money donors. that's a real change in sentiment from what with we saw just six months ago a or so. people like steve schwarzman who are saying i've got to back president trump. you have the edelson situation with $100 million. what are you hearing? why -- is it because of this very thing, this verdict, or are they just sick and tire of the policies that you're laying out here? -- sick and tired? >> maria, if i could have the entire show, i'd go through each one of them. but let's start with the economy, let's start with inflation, let's start with jobs. inflation is grossly outpacing wage growth. how about the entire world is a hornets' nest right now between ukraine and russia and everything that's happening in the middle east and our allies being attacked and instability. the lack of patriotism, crime in cities, the fact that you can't go into a cvs and buy with something because everything's locked behind plexiglas. maria: right. >> how long do you want me to go on that subject? if people are sick and tired of that. in 2016 we didn't have a single one of those people, a single congressman or senator, and now all of a sudden you see the mass of support. people want security, they want safety, they want the ability to live the american dream. they want to be able to take their e kids to disney disney world -- maria: yeah. eric: everybody wants to know -- >> they want somebody who'll actually be a cheerleader. maria: everybody wants to know what a this verdict means for the presidential election, you know that. that's all anyone's talking about at this point p. will president trump be able to run and win? will he be able to do the things that he was planning on doing for the campaign to actually be victorious in november? what are the restrictions they're putting on, and and what is your answer to that? >> well, maria, as a i walked out of that courthouse that day, i said may 30th, 2024, might be the da day that won it -- the day that won with it for donald trump. i've never seen this country more upset about what's happening. it's the law of unintended consequences. the democrats dig so deep that they enup finding themselves. they think their trickery will be overlooked. america's looking through this nonsense, and i think the harder hay hit him, the more they do, the more money he's going to raise, the more independents he's going to get. as i mentioned, the swing of independent voters after this conviction has been unbelievable because no one believes it. and, you know, they're literally feeding him, you know, certain is segments of the population that he might not have had in 2016 and 2020 because for the first time they realize that the system's coming down, that that the victim. he's the victim that often times some of their communities were. and you see them swinging. look at the african-american vote -- maria: yeah. >> that's swinging over to donald trump. look at the hispanic vote over the last couple of years. you know, look at the youth vote right now, maria. we've never had more youth support out there. people know exactly what's going on, and they want a strong country again. maria: it's all about who counts the votes, right? you mentioned your wife, lara trump. she is the cochair of the rnc right now. what has she said, what is she doing, what are you doing in the campaign and for your father in terms of securing this election and insuring that a we have, in fact, a fair election and transparent in november? >> well, i have a beautiful wife, but behind that beautiful smile is somebody who's absolutely working 24 hours a day, 7 days a week the secure the vote and raise a lot of money. and what she's done at the rnc along with michael whatley and everybody else, they've upended the whole organization. they've turned it into the greatest pretty cl call fighting machine ever and, believe me, their eyes are on that problem every single day because it's a real problem. anybody that doesn't see voter fraud is real is either naive or foolish. it happens. it happened in 2020,s and we will not allow it the happen again and, believe me, lara trump is all over that. i'm very proud of the work that she's doing and the rnc is doing. maria: eric, real quick, judge merchan set the sentencing date on july 11th, four days before the rnc convention. what are your expectations for the sentencing? >> yeah. go figure. you never mow what these people, maria. honestly, the amount of pressure that they're going to put on this guy to do something incredible and insane, and that will backfire on them again as a it always a does. i don't even want to try and, you know, predict what's going to happen. i really don't. these people are corrupt. they're horrible. the system's corrupt. i was in that front row, and i saw it every single day. when you're sitting there, you just wouldn't believe it. if you weren't seeing it with your own eyes, you wouldn't believe that was the legal system of the united states of america. you'd think that was venezuela or iran or some third world country, not the united states of america. and certainly not the business capital of the entire globe, new york city if. and i hope the the appellate courts get this right and restore some confidence to the legal system in the u.s. maria: eric, an extraordinary moment. we so appreciate you being here this morning and, of course, we'll be watching it and keeping a spotlight on it. thank you, sir. >> thanks, maria. maria: all right. trump organization executive vice president eric trump. quick break and then more reaction to the verdict and what's ahead with senator rand paul, former white house senior advisor steven miller and arizona a senate candidate kari lake. but first, hunter biden is now set to appear in a a delaware federal courtroom tomorrow to the stand trial on three felony gun charges of his own. the prosecution says it will introduce key evidence that originally was dubbed russian disinformation right before a presidential election by 511 former intelligence officials. former directer of national intelligence and u.s. attorney john ratcliffe with with analysis right after this. ♪ the day you get your clearchoice dental implants makes every day... a "let's dig in" day... mm. ...a "chow down" day... a "take a big bite" day... a "perfectly delicious" day... - mm. 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is so all of this shows how out of bounds this was, how rigged this was. judge merchan and alvin bragg know that it was rigged, but they don't care because they think that they got what they wanted which is to racial donald trump a convicted felon -- label donald trump a convicted felon. but, maria, it sure doesn't seem like it's working, not with the american people. they know it's rigged x they know who likely rigged it. maria: well, you're talking about rigging, you're talking about election interference the president's talking all the time that all of this is just because they want him to get out of the race and interfere in the election. when is interference fraud? i mean, eric trump just said there's voter fraud. everyone knows it. when -- how do you cross the line? when is election interference election fraud? and what are the consequences for that? >> right. well, clearly this is election interference. these facts are not debatable, maria. what happened in this case is that after a donald trump announced he was going to run for president, four different sets of prosecutors went to joe biden's white house to meet with joe biden's lawyers and his department of justice from if georgia, from new york, letitia james, jack smith shortly before he brought his indictments and, of course, alvin bragg who not only met with joe biden, joe biden's lawyers in the white house, he took one of joe biden's lawyers from the department of justice to have him bring this case. so, you know, all of these people and all of these jurisdictions, maria with, are proxies of the biden white house. all of these indictments brought in four different can jurisdictions by -- shortly after by lawyers who met with joe biden's lawyers. joe biden's taken a page out of iran's playbook here, maria, you know? maria: wow. >> as he defend iran after the attack on israel he said, welsh there's no direct evidence that iran was involved. but iran uses proxies. it's very clear to everyone know that iran, you know, directed and funded, even chose the timing of that attack in the october. just as they use hezbollah and hamas for that purpose. that's what's happening here. joe biden is using legal proxies to conduct this lawfare against the american people by convicting donald trump and trying to take, you know, the preferred candidate off the ballot box. and it's just not working, maria. the american people see through this. maria: well,ing i mean, you know, president biden was asked about that very question the other day, and he turned around and gave the reporters this really weird smile. let's take a look at this. he didn't, he didn't really answer, he just smile pd when they asked just exactly what you're talking about at the white house on friday. and and you're calling these prosecutors proxies of the biden administration. what are the consequences of that? i mean, you seem to have specific dates when all of these prosecutors went and met with white house when counsel. >> well, they are specific dates. this isn't debatable, these are facts that all of these lawyers in different jurisdictions met with biden's lawyers shortly before they brought indictments against joe biden's political opponent. maria, that is an overwhelming body of evidence of election interference. it's one thing to commit, to deprive if donald trump of his civil rights under color of law which is clearly what happened here in this case, but if you attempt to oppress anyone's right to vote, take away anyone's right to vote as they've done to donald trump here, you've committed election interference if under title 18 or title 52. anding, you know, again, the biden justice department isn't going to investigate itself for its complies ifty here -- complicity here. but when donald trump is elected 47th president of the united states, the american people are going to want this to be investigated because very clearly there seems to be overwhelming evidence of election interference by the biden administration. maria: well, you could also say that about antony blinken creating that letter which was hiding information from the public including, you know, james clapper and john brennan signing the 51-person influence letter to say that the laptop was russian disinformation. >> well, maria, you already pointed out that irony of four years after the trump administration officially told you that hunter biden's laptop was not russian disinformation, the biden administration through their justice department now have to authenticate that laptop in a case against joe biden's son -- maria: right. >> the irony there is rich. but the most important thing is this, maria: by authenticating that laptop and acknowledging that it's true, what are the consequences of that, right? because what alvin bragg said and what the white house has now endorsed in saying this was a legitimate conviction of donald trump was alvin bragg said the crime here was that donald trump hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election. so what about all the people that hid damaging information in the form of the laptop during the 2020 election? that includes joe biden. that includes his secretary of state, antony blinken. that includes john brennan and james clapper and the 51 former intelligence officials who, maria, sent that letter out after the trump administration officially, through me as dni and through the department of justice and the fbi all acknowledged this was not russian disinformation information -- there should be consequences for that, and the way for that to take place is for donald trump to be elected. maria: as a lawyer, as a former u.s. attorney, what are the restrictions that president trump will have to face now? what are you expecting from the sentencing on july 11th? >> well, everything's been unprecedented up to this point in tile. maria: right. >> there's no basis to the impose any criminal actual sentence, so is it possible that they'll to that to keep him off the campaign trail? yes. it's also possible that a they'll say, well, gosh with, we could do all these things to donald trump, but we're just going to put him on probation, give him a fine, or give him a a break to show how fair we are. as i said, maria, what they want is the label of convicted felon -- maria: right. >> but you know what? the response to that from the american people is we know you're lying, we know that that's not true. he raised $50 million prosecute american people in 24 hours -- from the american people in 24 hours -- maria: right. >> and the polls show the american people increasingly want donald trump, and they don't want joe biden because america is in crisis right now, and they know that they need a tough s.o.b.. they don't need someone that's weak and cowardly, and there's only one guy running for president right now who's tough up to take this on and stand up to that, and that's donald trump. maria: we'll leave it there. john, it's always a pleasure. thank you, sir. >> great to see you are. maria: former director of national intelligence. quick break and then the covid cover-up. who was getting paid to lie to the american people? 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to cover up how they cobusiness? that's one thing -- do business, that's one thing. or to steer everyone away from gain of function research and the risk that goes along with that or the lab leak possibility. maria: and that is the chairman of the house select subcommittee on the krone if virus pandemic, congressman brad wenstrup, on their investigation into dr. anthony fauci and his handling of covid-19. chairman wenstrup is seeking access to fauci's personal e-mail accounts and cell phone records after new e-mail evidence uncovered by the panel appears to show that fauci used personal accounts to conduct government business with during the pandemic. here's oversight committee chairman james comer questioning fauci's former colleague, dr. david morins. watch. >> you wrote that dr. fauci is, quote, too smart to let colleagues send him stuff that could cause trouble, end quote. on june 16th, to 20, we're all smart enough to know to never have is smoking gun, and if we wouldn't put them in e-mails and we found them, we'd delete them. did you ever have conversations with dr. fauci regarding the leading -- deleting e-mails? >> i don't remember any such thing. >> you don't remember. >> no, sir. and it would be -- tony and i don't have those kind of conversations. maria: and even if they have the conversations, he doesn't remember. fauci is set to to testify tomorrow on capitol hill for the first time since retiger as director of national institute of aller allergy and infectious diseases back in december of 2022. joining me now with a look ahead is the ranking member of the senate homeland security committee, senator rand paul, who's been at the forefront of the investigation into the origins of covid-19. senator, thanks very much for being here this morning. >> thanks for having me. maria: so dr. fauci is going to be testifying tomorrow. what are you expecting? >> well, you know, or our investigation has confirmed that he did, indeed, lie, he admitted a felony. he said that they did not fund, the nih did not fund gain of function, dangerous research in china. we now know that to be untrue. we know he committed a felony. but what we've discovered now is there was a massive cover-up from the very beginning. there was a behind the scenes effort to change the opinion of people, many of the people, many of the fauci colleagues all believed that the virus did come from the lab. their opinions were all changed. but then all a evidence was then covered up. they began using burner phones. hay began using couriers. they said we can't do things electronically. i can take things by hand to his house. it sounds more like the cia than the nih, but it's unbelievable, the amount of things that a went on. they say, oh, we're safe now. i deleted all those e-mails. i think we're safe now. what in the world would they actually mean by we think we're safe now? so there was a massive cover-up, and there's so many people who need to be interviewed in addition to fauci. we have david morins who worked for him for 20 years, we have the foia lady, the woman -- the i.t. woman at a nih who was explaining to them how to avoid foia and how to break the law. she needs to be deposed. there's all kinds of stones that could be unturned. but ultimately, the buck stops with anthony i fauci who's in charge of the place and has the responsibility not only for the cover-up, but also the respondent for letting dangerous research go on that led to a pandemic, in all likelihood led to a pandemic that killed millions of people. maria: but, i mean, think about that. president trump is in charge, he finds out about this covid pandemic coming, that this disease is about to kill all these people. he's got his team right there. he asks what do you think this is, dr. fauci knew all along that they were doing this gain of function research, and he says, oh, well, i think it's natural. i mean, really? [laughter] >> yeah. well, see, we now have his e-mails, contemporaneous e-mails from the exact time he was saying it was natural, nothing to see here and that the nih had nothing to do with it, we have the private e-mails where he and everyone in his inner circle was saying, oh, my goodness, we've looked at the genetic sequence, and it looks to be manipulated. it looks to be from the lab. a few weeks later he quotes a scientific paper to prove that a scientists believe this came from if nature, but he didn't tell people that he committed -- commissioned and edited the paper. he was behind the origins of the paper. so there's so much dishonesty going on here and so much abuse of power. we've got to get to the bottom of this and mainly because with this research still guess on. it goes on in the united states, and it needs to be regulated. i have a bill coming forward that i hope will be bipartisan that will have an independent agency that oversees all of this dangerous research. maria: well, i mean, why are they lying and why did they mislead you? is this about money? was dr. anthony fauci being paid by the vaccine makers to push the vaccine on all of us? if. >> we don't know. and his response to me was this: he said the law protects him and that he doesn't have to reveal loyalties. which is, i think, an affront to the american people. we think the law does not say that. but to clarify the law, i've introduced a bill that passed unanimously out of my committee, and it would require all royalties be listed on their forms from now on. i think we can get it through. we'll see whether the biden administration will oppose this or not, but this is a step for transparency and for sunlight. there shouldn't be this revolving door between big pharma and the nih, and and then all of a sudden we do know that $4500 million went from moderna to the nih because they share the patent, but does that make them conflicted in approving moderna if drugs now? how can you be objective when you got $450 million from moderna? how can you treat moderna objectively from there on out? if. maria: that is exactly my point. we're going to be watching that. okay. do you believe if president trump were to win, should there be a prosecution of dr. anthony fauci? >> what i'm asking president trump and what i hope he will offer is access to all of the records. right now the nih is withholding records. they're withholding records more so than the cia or the fbi. they have completely withheld all records of the decision-making process on whether or not this research was dangerous or gain of function. so i hope trump will open the books. i hope trump will say you can look at everything and that my committee will be allowed to investigate this thoroughly because we've been hampered by the biden administration. if he does that, he'll go a long way towards getting some voters who are still skeptical about the lockdowns and about the trump administration's reaction to the virus who want to see more strength and opposition to the deep state within the public health administration. maria: so your expectations is, is that president trump could still win the election despite what has taken place? what is your reaction to the conviction and the guilty conviction? >> you know, a sad day in america. with and what i worry about is something even bigger than donald trump. i worry about a strife. i worry about war in the streets. i worry about 50% of the public believing that the court system is will be used against them, you know? once upon a time it was because of the color of your skin, now it's the shade of your ideology. i worry about that. and and i worry when half the country thinks they won't be treated fairly, what happens and how people react. if you look at records violation and hillary clinton, or $8 million expense and they slapped her on the wrist. she got an $8,000 fine. and that's actually probably appropriate, some kind of fine for mislabeling things. but there's a real question whether it is mislabeled. was it a legal expense? sounds like it was a legal expense. all a nondisclosure agreements, i believe, are legal expenses. i'm. >> guessing there are hundreds of them in new york city as we speak, and my guess is not one of them have ever been taken to court. i think donald trump is the only person ever prosecuted for this particular crime. maria: quite extraordinary, senator. it's wonderful to talk with you about iment thank you, sir. >> thank you. stuart: martha: senator rand paul joining us this morning. quick break and then former white house senior advisor steven miller or and arizona senate candidate kari lake with the impact of the trump conviction 156 days away from the if presidential election. that's next, stay with us. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. 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if they do, they're going to win an historic victory. maria: you just said president trump potentially facing a lifetime in jail. do you really believe that the president is facing jail time here? >> you have seen this judge at every step of this process rig the outcome for the prosecution. you have seen him issue a first amendment-shredding gag order that precludes the presidential nominee from even discussing the fundamental financial conflict at the heart of the judge's profound bias in addition to his donation history for anti-trump, pro-biden causes. maria: yeah. >> so i don't put anything past this judge. 34 felony convictions -- maria: yeah. >> -- for a nonexistent bookkeeping ledger notation crime. maria: wow. >> this is insane sane. maria: kari, your reaction. >> i echo exactly what stephen said. i think, though,s we have to look to how do we turn this into an opportunity to not just win this next election, but win it in such huge numbers that we send a very strong message to the democrats and, frankly, the world that america is ready to turn the table and turn the page and make sure that president trump wins again. because we've got to turn this thing around. we've been concentrating for six weeks on this bogus trial that the whole world sees is bogus -- maria: yeah. >> -- not talking about what hunter biden a's been up to, not talking about his upcoming trial, not talking about what's going on with dr. fauci that senator paul just mentioned and not talking about what's happening on the border and in the economy. maria: yeah. >> and that's what they want. they want us so distracted. maria: right. >> i've been on the campaign trail the last couple days running for u.s. senate, the crowds have been massive. people are saying how do i get involveed, i've never been involved before, we've got to do something. we've got to get president trump back in office a, so i think stephen's right. we're going to register these people to vote, and we are going to have a very loud message sent on november 5th. maria: well, i want to see if that's actually happening in terms of the polls, in terms of the reaction post that verdict. let's take a short break and come back with steven miller and kari lake. stay with us. ♪ ♪ anthony: this making you uncomfortable? 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what about you? if do you think that is what is happening? and do you think we'll see a fair and transparent if election? >> we need to fight for a fair and transparent election, that's a task that requires every republican a.g., every republican secretary of state, every republican d.a -- maria: yeah. we've got to go. >> -- the congressional committee to be doing the hard work every day. maria: okay. thank you so much. that'll do it for us. i'm maria bartiromo, thanks for being with (♪ ) why did i keep missing out on this? before you were preventing migraine with qulipta? do you remember the pain, the worry, the canceled plans? and look at me now. you'll never truly forget migraine but qulipta reduces attacks making zero-migraine days possible. it's the only pill of its kind that blocks cgrp and is approved to prevent migraine of any frequency. to help give you that forget you get migraine feeling. don't take if allergic to qulipta. most common side effects are nausea, constipation and sleepiness. learn how abbvie could help you save. qulipta, the forget-you-get migraine medicine. arthel: on the hills that biden laying out a proposal to end