is this a hell day? you're not imagining it, a new report is confirming it. complaints over flight cancellations, delays, mishandled luggage. >> they're hitting records as we speak. more travelers hit the skies. with this holiday season expected to be busier than ever, you're going to need to pack that proverbial patience. we report. you might want to hide. "your world" starts right now. just wanted to put you in the perfect holiday mood. i'm neil cavuto. welcome to "your world." let's get to it with the flyer frustrations. apparently they're hitting records just like corner of wall and broad is. more later. alexis mcadams at la guardia with more on how things look there. what's going on, alexis? >> thanks for getting us in the holiday spirit. every time we're at the airport, it's not great news. it's about delays an cancellations. if you've been looking at this, it's not a surprise. u.s. ash lines and the passengers have had another rough year. more than double amount of complaints about u.s. airlines this year compared to last year. take a look at the screen. these are the numbers that just came in in the first five months of 2023. more than 38,000 complaints were filed against u.s. and foreign airlines, travel agents and tour ops the airline with the most complaints, frontier followed by spirit, hawaii want, jet blue and united. here's how things are going today. i'm going to step out. you can see more at la guardia. less cancellations but more delays. that means people are missing their connections, stuck for either hours or days at these airports just trying to find a way to get out. passengers here at la guardia say they just show up expecting the delays. watch. >> today actually we're -- we've had a delay. it's only about 30 minutes, i think. the main thing that kind of is concerning is if you're on a connecting flight, then you end up missing your connecting flight. >> we mostly fly american. i would certainly give it a b. but that's just my personal experience. i've heard other people say to me i never fly american. i go delta. i've had a good experience. >> yeah, just depends who you talk to, right? according to the frustration, the department of transportation rules around the delays in the u.s. are unclear. so people don't know hey, am i going to get my money back. ther there's no official requirements to get a refund. that makes more fund adding to the holiday spirit at the airport. this christmas neil, you can expect airports to have their busiest holiday season that they've ever had. back you patience and check the dotted rules to see if you get rebooked and if you will get your money back. >> neil: i have to calm down. thanks, alexis. alexis mcadams at la guardia. lee is back with us. he's a great travel expert. a lot of his advice gets through my thick skull and just very practical advice, period. the fact that he's an italian american is coincidental. lee, let me get your take on what you do when you hear stuff like this. people prepare for the worst, but there's some practical things you can do. explain. >> well, the obvious things are like she said, be patient, be polite, be nice to everybody at the airport and go in with the mindset that you're probably going to get hassled, maybe expect some delays and surely crowds. be level headed with things. i always tell people that they should have the airline app. so if there is some type of mishap, then they can rebook themselves on the app easily. pack a tracker in your check back if you happen to check a bag. a big one for the holidays especially christmas, send your presents to avoid checking luggage. if i was going to do something and travel on the holidays, i'd send my presents first and flights are off peak times and days because that makes things easier for you. if you can fly direct, you minimize the chances of connections and delays. i say have travel answer. i have a travel insurance policy and it's wonderful. >> neil: what does that travel insurance cover? >> it covers you an entire year if you have an annual policy like i do. you can also buy it for individual trips and it will cover you for loss, delays, medical and variety of things. you can check different policies and see what they cover. i've had claims filed four different times. every time they have reimbursed me, which has been great. so you don't have to lose money. bad things happen. >> neil: they do happen. you talk about trying to get to the airport early. the advice seems earlier and earlier to me. what is the rule of thumb? i know there's a difference for domestic versus international. what is the latest? >> the big thing is if you're checking bags or not. if you're checking bags, the line is long. especially here in l.a. or new york. that's why we say don't check a bag unless you have to. check in online so you can get to the airport as late as possible. again, if you're going to check a bag, you want to get there two hours early for a domestic flight, probably more for an international flight. the lines will be long, this will be the busiest holiday season ever. >> neil: how do you get on a tsa line quickly and off it quickly? it all depends i'm behind the person that has brought every possible known liquid and stripping in front of me. what is the advice on that? what can avoid any problems as you're going through that? >> well, for me, i have clear and tsa precheck. so i always get to skip kind of the main lines. that's so good. if you travel more than a couple times a year, even if it's just domestic, it's so worth it. like global entry is if you travel abroad. it saves you so much time. when you see the crazy long lines, you get to skip over that and then you have to deal with the people that can't figure out how to stick their bags through the reader. otherwise, it's a conspiracy against you. >> neil: i thought it was. i'd like your advice on sending your gifts ahead of time. you can always say to whoever you're visiting, i send the gifts. i don't know what happened. that would be lying, wouldn't it? >> it's only a lie if you get caught. >> neil: you're right. thanks for that, lee. meantime here, if this is a worry and panic attack for wall street a second day of showing it. the second day for the dow with the gains after gains. this is the second day running of the all-time record. mark it in pencil these days. the big catalyst for this is the fact that we got this goldilocks mix of data that is just about right. not too hot to get the federal reserve to stand off and not too cold to think we have to cut rates. wall street would prefer cut rates. one thing i found in the face of this strong she tail sales activity and the buoyant consumer, interest rates are indeed coming down. market interest rates are coming down. the ten-year note that is attacked to mortgages, home equity loans that puppy is around 3.9% and roughly translating in to the very low rates on various mortgages. of course, that trend is expected to continue. larry glazer on the wind at the market's back. what do you think, larry? >> the financial markets can be a lot like holiday travel. both can be highly emotional and very frustrating. this emotional roller coaster this year is leading to euphoria in merry markets. the markets are rallying in to year end with expectations not just of a rate cut next year but multiple rate cuts coming in to next year. keep in mind, when you talk about emotions this time last year, it was doom and gloom. wall street said we're going to have a recession. the world will come to an end. inflation will soar. how quickly things change. if wall street were to look at jay powell as an olympic gymnast, they would give him a gold medal for sticking the landing. it's way too early to make that call, neil. we have a long way to go. holiday travel up double digits. retail sales. you can't get a dinner reservation. it's a contact sport. that's not consistent with a rate cut scenario. >> neil: it's interesting you say that. a lot of restaurants are booked. if you're looking to get in the olive garden, i know people. let's get your take on what is really going on with the federal reserve without getting wonky about it. powell was stingy with the compliments. he was afraid wall street would get ahead of it. the market is factoring double cuts next year. if you're cutting rates, you're concerned things are slowing down, right? >> the question you have to ask, what does the federal reserve know that we don't know. they must believe the economy is going to sour next year. right? that is not consistent. if you have a strong labor market like you have now, strong retail sales like you do now, that is not consistent with aggressive rate cuts going in the next year. here's what we do know. we know wall street loves cheap money. you have decades of cheap money. the only person that like cheap money more than that is washington. interest rates come down precipitously fuelling the stock market advance. the only one that doesn't like cheap money are retirees and savers whose hard work has put their money in savings account and they will get zero interest rates next year. >> neil: thanks. the fed governors plot out where rates go. and real quickly, your take on whether -- you talk about savers. a lot have been spoileled with e 6% plus cds. you could argue, make a bullish argument here that money finds its way back in to the stock market. >> there's no doubt that's the beta wall street is making. $5 trillion to $6 trillion of liquid assets will get forced in real estate, stocks and bonds. some of it will happen. a lion's share of that, those retirees are older. they're not so anxious to throw their money in the lottery of wall street. you called them older. i call myself seasoned now. thanks, larry. you're the best. i appreciate it. very good read on these markets. meanwhile a very good read on washington as they prepare to skip out of town. for the house, that is a double jeopardy moment here. as they go, they have some impeachment stuff to consider. aishah hasnie on that. aishah? >> they're going to continue to work open impeachment as long as this inquiry has officially been launched now. they did get a pretty big interview today, although house republicans walked out with more frustration than they did with answers. i'll explain why coming up. 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>> well, any person regardless of their last name is obligated to appear. theoretically he's in contempt of congress at this point. the question of the enforcement of that subpoena is a little bit different depending on the stage of the inquiry in to the impeachment now there's a formal vote on that. the enforcement could be more substantial. but theoretically speaking, the enforcement is applicable at any point that you defy a subpoena that has been issued. >> neil: does it carry more clout than with an inquirinquir. people said there's no there there and they play the politics. do you get a sense here that this does put pressure on hunter to show up? >> when there's an actual formal inquiry voted on, it does put more pressure on the doj to ultimately enforce that subpoena because the doj is the entity that -- >> neil: will this doj do it? >> that's the big question here, whether they will pursue charges against him for that is really the decision of the doj. david weiss says there's an on going investigation. hunter has impending criminal trials. this could be an additional indictment. that's up to the doj and their discretion. >> let me ask you -- i know they're trying to have the gun charges dismissed and the seven additional tax charges come up. i know hunter biden's lawyers have said there's nothing there and this is just a pile on and add on. but they can't chase them away, right? what happens? >> those criminal cases that hunter is facing are still pending trial at this point. we don't know if there's ongoing plea negotiations. there seems to be significant evidence in those. he's not been convicted. he last to contend though through trial or root plea deal. right now he's pending the criminal matters. >> neil: he took the ball and ran offense here and speak outside publicly. he said if he had his druthers, he would be happy to speak publicly. what do you make of that? >> well, hunter was in a difficult position because of his pending criminal matters. anything that he discusses can be used against him. there's a lot of overlap between what the congress wanted to speak to him about and his pending matters all deeing with his finances and business dealings. he had a lot on the line. he should have likely taken the fifth and said he wasn't going to answer questions, which is understandable given the circumstances he's in. they wanted to play it both ways and no cooperate whatsoever, which again, i understand that from a p.r. perspective. but legally speaking, he's in contempt of that subpoena as it stands at this point. >> neil: meanwhile, the january 6th investigation to donald trump, that could be held off for quite some time. you know, with a separate push for immunity from this and of course the push back that you can't claim immunity. i guess what i'm more interested in is how far does that push this case back? >> there's several issues that the supreme court is looking at that relate to the january 6th case or may very soon be looking at, including immunity issue that deals with overarching ability to charge the president with acts that are connected to their office. in terms of whether that will delay the trial date, it's very likely in my opinion that it will. it is not guaranteed. a lot of theses are appellate issues that could be resolved post trial if the judge wanted to push things things. throughs will and less chance the case will go in march and may be pushed back election. >> if it's pushed back, donald trump won. does this go away? >> the federal cases can and will go away at that point. the state cases he does not have the authority to dismiss. that's different. >> even as a president-elect he can't do that. >> that's right. >> neil: we'll watch it closely. thanks, katie. what you probably remember seeing outside the white house, a dad petitioning for his son who is still hostage and taken by hamas. he's back to talk to us after this. >> they are willing and ready to do all that they possibly can by any abdulmutallab of means to get the hostages home. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're building a better postal service. for more on-time deliveries. and easier, affordable ways to ship. so you can deliver even more holiday joy. the united states postal service. delivering for america. my name is dana bellefeuille, and my husband and i own the village bakery located in hayden, idaho. our mission is to employ people with different abilities. tiktok is allowing us to show what acceptance looks like on a day-to-day basis, here at the bakery. this is a community of just complete and utter love. it's the people that lift you up when you're down. people on tiktok do that on a daily basis, and i've never found a community like that, ever. >> neil: time for another pro-palestinian protest going on. this one in philadelphia. not disrupting traffic. if it's anything like what happened in los angeles yesterday, it could. we're on it after this. oying a e while watching the game. who's winning? 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any news at all on your son? >> no. unfortunately not. really the truth is that since he was taken hostage october 7th, we've heard nothing, certainly not from him, but even about him. if you recall a couple weeks back, there was a wave of hostage releases. the u.s. administration helped broker. of the 100 or so that were released, 30 of them came from my kibbutz, my cooperative farm. we had 80 hoes tstages taken ocr 7. 30 were women and children. they had lots to say or some things to say about what they had experienced in the tunnels or in the above ground prisons where they were held. we learned in the community quite a bit about the condition of our loved ones. among them there's a sign of life for segge. that was true three walks ago. when the released hostages last saw him. every hour, every day in hamas captivity is a risk to all of these hostages. >> >> neil: there's ed of people having seen him alive and well at least three weeks ago. >> well, alive, yes. well, that's unfortunately -- all the 138 hostages, i believe at this point that none of them are healthy. there's those that are wounded on october 7th by hamas terrorists, some of whom have died in the meantime. about ten of our people from our kibbutz have died in hamas activity. we know from the testimonies of the released hostages, the conditions and the tunnels are absolutely abysmal. the hostages are starving. little to no medical attention. and the older folks especially who need their chronic medications, life-saving medications are not receiving them. so i do not believe that there's a single one of these e hostage that are still remaining in hamas captivity that we could describe as doing well. well, you used the word before, you reported it, a living hell in gaza. above and below the ground in gaza. >> neil: i can only imagine as a dad what you're going through. i'm wondering given the fact that there were seven days 0 a pause in activity that prompted the release of 100 or so hostages, we saw three times as many palestinians released. and then all of that stopped. are you afraid that without another pause in activity you won't be hearing about your son being released? that that could get delayed significantly? >> there's certainly that danger. i think simple logic would dictate that we need cessation of hostilities. i do believe and have believed the last two months that the u.s. is certainly doing what it can. but every hour, every day is critical to the welfare of these hostages. by whoever means necessary. if that is a cessation of hostilities, whatever we want to call it, the quickest route and would seem to be to get as many people as possible out, then i think not only the hostage families would agree with that, but the vast majority of israelis would agree to that. in fact, the government is at odds with the vast majority of israelis around the hostage issue. the israeli people, israeli society is demanding that the hostages be returned immediately and alive. we were sacrificed for all intents and purposes on october 7 because of the catastrophic failure of our government and of the military to allow such a thing to happen. these remaining 138 hostages must not be sacrificed. a second time around. they must be brought home to their families to lead the lives they were meant to live. >> i don't know how much you can share with your meeting with the president, sir. but did he relay to you his concern about the ongoing bombings on the part of israel? israel says targeting them as effectively as they can, but they have to continue. did he relay to you how he felt about that. he has intimated and again today that a pause or at least being more careful was in order? what do you think? >> well, unfortunately i can't go into detail about what was a private conversation with the president and secretary state blinken yesterday. there were wide range of topics that we did talk about. what i can share with you is that i think for all of us, the nine american families represented in the one and one or two remotely, we came away feeling the biden administration from top to bottom and also in congress, in a bipartisan way, which is a very difficult thing to achieve today on any subject, sort of wall to wall support for this idea by whatever means and with all the powter united states has to get all of the hostages home, but of course in the end, israel and hamas, they are the parties at war here. the united states with all of its tools and diplomatic and otherwise, they can't get everyone home by itself. >> so many of your relatives made it out, jonathan. but not your son. was there any explanation for that? was it just the damn luck of the draw? what was it? examined in detail later on.be what we can say for sure now is that the people who survived on my kibbutz and on other kibbutz in the areas, the people that were able by a number of different ways to stay protected within the connected bomb shelters to their homes, all of the homes in our area that connected bomb shelters since 2008, since hamas took over the gaza strip because of the rocketing and the bombing that had been coming over periodically from gaza, the problem is that the doors were never meant. the armored doors of these safe rooms were never meant to be locked from the inside. so they were held by someone from the inside or jerry rigged so they couldn't be opened from the inside. whomever's door was breached by whatever means, be it a good pull by one of the terrorists or by firing rpgs at it believe it or not, those people did not survive. i feel myself immensely fortunate that my daughter-in-law, they two little girls, my daughter, her husband and their two little boys and another three guests were able to survive that horrific day while so many others did not. 35 people were murdered that day on my kibbutz. from 2-year-olds to 85-year-olds. with all of the mourning, of course, i do consider myself lucky that those family members are physically okay. i fear scarred for life by the savagery that they had to witness. i and many, many other good people are working to bring segge back and all of the 138 hostages, civilians were the most part that were ripped from their homes. and segge was taken because almost all of the young men that tried fruitlessly, tried, those that tried to in some way resist were either killed that morning or were taken in to captivity. >> neil: just incredible. jonathan, my heart aches for you now and hanukkah. but we're thinking of you, praying for you. you seem like a remarkable dad in more ways than one. hang in there. >> thank you very much for keeping attention on this issue. >> neil: absolutely. we'll have more after this. - bye, bye cough. - later chest congestion. hello 12 hours of relief. 12 hours!! not coughing? 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>> as i mentioned before, we're actively addressing this issue. right now the primary mechanism is working with international allies and partners to further bolster the task force that will address this problem. >> how many partners are there in this maritime task force who are dealing with the houthi missiles in particular? >> i don't have anything to announce right now. in the near feature we'll have more information to provide. >> defense secretary lloyd austin will be travelling to bahrain this weekend, hometown the u.s. fifth fleet before heading to israel. the u.s. central commander is in the region as is jake sullivan. neil? >> neil: thanks, jennifer. when we come back, michael waltz on what he would say to iran with the latest threats after this. 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>> but neil, as a commander-in-chief, as a leader of the free world, the president needs to look at the camera, look at the american people, look at the world and say iran, we are going to hold you directly responsible. you will pay a price. there will be a cost for what the houthis do and for what your proxies in iraq are doing in attacking american soldiers. and they have to believe it, neil. that's the problem. we have multiple aircraft carriers, we have destroyers, submarines, soldiers, bombers. you could have the most capable military in the world. if your adversaries don't believe you have the political will to impose costs on them directly, they'll keep doing what they're doing, which is attacking u.s. interests in u.s. sailors in the red sea and our allies. oh, by the way, the houthi spokesperson just effectively announced a blockade on israel by attacking international shipping. they're doing it. what are we doing in response? well, we've allowed our military to defend themselves by shooting down the missiles. but they're not allowed to shoot the shooters, which are the houthi missile launches muchless do anything to iran itself. until we punch the bully in the nose, continuing to offer it more and more lunch money is only going to make the bully more aggressive. that's what we're seeing. my fear, neil and i can't say this more clearly, that some poor sailor, some poor soldier is going to die before this administration reverses course on its iran policy. >> neil: are you saying we can't go after the rebels themselves? they're a proxy group for iran. i can understand the skepticism and fear for going after iran. we're holding back when we go after the houthi rebels. we have shot down some of their drones or does it end there. shooting down -- if someone is shooting at you, you don't shoot the bullets. you shoot the shooter to defend your self-. in the navy, they call it the archer and the arrow. right now they're authorized to shoot the arrow, not the archer. so if we're not even taking action on the proxies doing the shooting -- look, i ran will trade houthi lives for the lice of american sailors all day long. you have to do what ronald reagan did, take action on iran. in 1988 when the iranians mined the gulf, not only was it hitting international ship, it hit one of our ships, what did we do in response in we sank five iranian ships. and then it stopped. under president trump, we took out the iranian field general, not their proxies. soleimani, the iranian field general and it stopped. you have to restore peace. sometimes you have to escalate to deescalate. for reasons that are unclear to me ex-isn't it for an appeasement strategy, this administration has been deterred by iran and they're afraid to do it. >> neil: what are the arab nations doing for whom this red sea international water passage way is crucial as well? are they just sitting by and waiting for us or what? >> well, i don't think the -- i don't know that the arabs are going to necessarily step in. remember, both the saudis and the uae were in a very difficult military conflict down in yemen where the houthis are. i don't know if they'll step in to protect shipping going to israel. i'll remind everyone, 15 to 20% of global shipping flows through the red sea -- >> neil: including some of theirs. >> that's right. >> neil: it's in their best interest to do it. >> we have to take more action before someone truly gets hurt. >> neil: all right, congressman. thank you. very good catching up with you. meantime, very dark poll numbers and an ominous warning for joe biden coming not from critical republican, but a former democratic confidant. known for following your dreams. known for keeping with tradition. known for discovering new places. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer. fda-approved for 16 types of cancer, including certain early-stage and advanced cancers. one of those cancers is early-stage non—small cell lung cancer. keytruda may be used with certain chemotherapies before surgery when you have early-stage lung cancer, which can be removed by surgery, and then continued alone after surgery to help prevent your lung cancer from coming back. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you've had or plan to have an organ or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation or have a nervous system problem. keytruda is an immunotherapy and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it's tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. ♪ my name is josh sanabria and i am the owner at isla veterinary boutique hospital. i was 5...6 years of age and i knew i was going to be a vet. once alexandra called me to let me know that bank of america had approved my loan... it was important to me. we not only just provide the financing piece, we do everything that we can to surround them with the right people. all you need is a perfect, amazing team that will guide you through the right steps to be successful. and that's what bank of america was for me. lowe's knows same-day delivery means getting what you need, right when you need it. holiday shopping got easier on affordable décor and more. you know you can get these all at once, right dad? 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and they've really had a messaging issue when it comes to getting the message out there of these things that the former president -- that the president has done. we'll see if next year, the campaign can figure out how to get people on the trail to actually resonate with these voters. >> neil: you know, i talk to a lot of, you know, white house insiders and all who say if we're doing a lousy job, have you seen what's going on with the markets? back-to-back records. we have fancy graphics for that, we might show as we're talking. if that's such, you know, a burden, the markets and the underlying economy have a funny way of showing it. they say the reality of that will catch up with the perception that doesn't match it. but they said that for some time. what do you make of that? >> that's right. this time last year, the biden white house was fighting back on if a recession was coming, they ended up being right about that. so i think that their argument of people just need more time to see that the economy improving, could be a good one. but, you know, we'll see it by november if it improves enough. it comes down to how people feel, their pocketbooks at the end of the day. when they go to the grocery store and go to get gas in their car, if they're feeling better than they were three years ago vs., you know, how the stock market is doing. you know, this is the kitchen table issues that they need to actually feel the impacts of in order for biden to get some credit. >> neil: you're right. a lot of people say i don't have any stock. doesn't matter to me. i'm in a world of hurt. you might be quite right abo that. i apologize for the brief time. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: interest rates coming down, stocks going up. phenomena that continues to roll on. we'll explore that tomorrow. dow at an all time high. here's "the five." >> hello, everyone. i'