angle" from washington tonight. thank you,s as always, for being with you gos. university of destruction, the focus of tonight's angle. colleges, universities spend a lot of time raising money and work to appeal to the donors, to alums and perspective students by talking about their mission and their core values. ♪ ♪ those three propel us into the future. >> laura: a commitment to excellence? no one who saw her testify last week or watched harvard for the last 20 plus years can say that, the best lose out to mediocre at harvard and elsewhere because diverse is not good enough. ♪ ♪ >> i'm the person always looking beyond the horizon to what is coming and what can be and ready the campus and campus community for the future. >> laura: doing this does not make it less gibberish, it is milk/toast language written by consultants and ms. gay didn't think her diversity eequity and inclusion prepares for the real world. it fosters resentment that makes harvard students less likely to succeed or be happy. no one presses her on the concerns. not surprising the woman who could not state the university position on calls for genocide last week, she believes she is entitled to remain as president. why think otherwise? she's been rewarded for thinking this way her entire career. ms. gay professes to respect harvard university, she refuses to do the honorable thing, which the upenn president did do friday. credibility of harvard is damaged. donors are less likely to contribute and harvard degrees will have less credibility, she doesn't care, she's daring the board to fire her. they shouldn't have to. ms. gay has been bubble wrapped in racial privilege as she focused on supposed racial privilege of others and because jewish americans are part of the group that they believe is part of the power struggle, ms. gay did not think equivocating on gender would be a problem. faculty members are ralliy around ms. gay and urge the board of overseers not to fire her. who can hardly blame ms. gay for feeling protected, she's glided through her career without accountability and got away with sloppy scholarship and only hearing charges that she borrowed liberally from others in her dissertation and other papers. she took down roland fryer who dared to question the mantra of racism. >> threat to the most powerful black people at harvard. consider claudine gay, silky smooth inequality initiative. >> the world is awake to inequality and antiblack racism like never before. >> claudine gay asked president of the school to revoke tenure and president declines, that has not happened in the last 100 years. this punishment is career death. >> laura: andrew sullivan writes, carol hoover was hounded out of her position because she dared to state on television that biological sex is binary. hoover and fryer were threats to the left and especially to claudine gay, because deep down i guess she knows she doesn't deserve the title she has and anyone who tries to minimize this, academic rot at the core, they are going to be swept up in this fire storm. pressure on universities is not abating, anyone who supports this nonsense will join the list of academics and administrators who should lose their job. only way is to tell ms. gay to resign and tell the mit president to do the same. if they don't resign, fire them and eliminate position of every faculty member employed to continue the race and gender hustle. cnn, 's graduate of -- strong case over the weekend. >> understand broad shift taking place at elite universities, gone from centers of excellence to institutions pushing political agenda. universities have been neg neglecting excellence to pursue variety of agendas around diversity and inclusion. >> laura: it would be a mistake if these boards and universities thought they could ride this storm out. they cannot. it would be a mistake if they think because of their big endowments, and they are huge, they are continue. that is what the u.s. military thought before it went woke and began to see a huge drop in recruitment. when young people graduate and have to convince their employers they learned something, despite everyone at harvard has the same gpa, like 3.8. they'll wish they let these women go. they are activists, longer they stay in power. think of advice the angle has given education politics? we told them to get rid of biden, they dug in. he's getting creamed in states like michigan and georgia and losing in pennsylvania to trump. we told them to stop the madness in ukraine, they dug in and now the pentagon knows ukraine is heading for disappointment. we told them to enforce the border and they dug in and our cities are being destroyed. we told them to stop using the government on political prosecution, but they dug in and it made trump stronger and further harm the reputation of the doj and the fbi. but now we're telling them to excise the cancer that is dea and all aspects of university hiring and admissions or they will continue to see prestige and influence suffer. they have the brains or courage to do the right thing and end what andrew sullivan describeda hard bigotry of no expectations? some think they are sleepwalking into disaster. that is not true, they are running toward disaster as fast as they can. and that is the angle. joining me is victor davis hanson, hoover institution. victor, i don't want to see the institutions fail, it would be great if they could see the folly of their way and nature of what ms. gay has done to terrifically talented academics at harvard. can they be saved given how pervasive this rot is? >> laura: i think we lost victor, we'll try to get him back. you went to the ivy league, that is not what i'm saying. these are important institutions, we want establishment that is competent and talented, we want an establishment people can look up to, not just academic credentials, but their character. across the board, our establishment has failed us. out of three university presidents who testified last week, two are clinging to their title, they have yet to resign. they have not been fired. mit whipped out statement supporting sally cornbluff after depends on the context comment. you will have to step in for victor davis hanson, that is not easy. is firing the mit president enough to get at what is going on at the university? >> absolutely not. start with saying from a student perspective, my objective is that the school enforces their own rules, that is what matters. if the way this needs to happen is get rid of the mit corporation who endorsed the president and said her actions were excellent, senior administration supportive and toxic dei who continue to gaslight us and tell us everything is okay and disciplinary procedure is moving forward even though we know they are not. so be it, if all these people need to go, if that is whatta needs to happen, that is what needs to happen. >> laura: i think the fact 700 harvard professors rallied to claudine gay is perhaps even a worse indictment of harvard than her original comments. it is mind-blowing. >> unfortunately we saw the same thing at mit, we got a letter supporting the president and continue to gaslight us. >> laura: they know they are all on the chopping block if this thing goes the way it should be. then bloom is off the rose. not that they are not smart and talented people, of course they are, great students. this dei thing morphed and the antisemitism is just the latest of what they are. so jonathan, on this point, your reaction to the rallying around the presidents here. >> jonathan: thank you for having me. i think the issue is a bit more complex, but the university still not apologized for what underlied their testimony in congress. so they're standing behind and all professors are standing behind free speech and i personally, as well as you, believe free speech is critical to the united states and it might be critical for america. but that being said, if the university has a double standard when it comes to free speech and doesn't endorse conduct, so many things are happening that are conduct not speech, tearing down posters, chanting in student faces and restricting their movement. that is conduct, not speech. there are potential title six violation and the university is not using their own speech until they are on the hot seat. freedom of speech and freedom of expression is important, that is not a defense here, that is for me upsetting. >> laura: mit and harvard, i went to dartmouth. i didn't care, i was 19. it was a battleground back then and every decade, it has gotten worse. idea there is free speech on campus, everyone is self-censoring, mit, harvard, dartmouth, same across the board. hold on, we're going to get back to you. victor davis hanson has his audio back. i almost couldn't hear you, it was so brilliant. this issue of freedom of expression and how the left is trying to cloak itself, how does that holdup? >> well, everybody at the university has been voices in the wilderness, they have no free speech. they call any speech hate speech. the three presidents would have expelled students for what they had done, but for jews and white oppressors and israel in particular, they feel they have a free hand. we used to have trust in forces of the enlightenment that were going to give general education and train professional classes and now dark ages of racism and bigotry and they can't do what they were told to do, provide civic education for the population. you can leave harvard or yale or stan ford and know because of studies. when you let somebody in on criteria other than merit, that is not the end, it is the beginning. these people you saw testify will go after you systematically racist. we have leverage over them, can tax endowment, make tax deductions questionable for donors, get the government out of the loan business. we don't have to give them research money if they don't follow the constitution or provide basic civility for students on campus. we have a lot of power, i don't think we have -- >> laura: victor, hold on, mitt romney has a theory about all of this, watch. >> by creating law, by creating example and recognize that people we choose as leaders are not going to write law and policy, they are setting character of the country, one reason i have concern about president trump, he's affected the character of america. >> laura: quickly, is donald trump the cause of what we've seen on college campuses today? is trump the reason this is happening? >> absolutely not, it predates trump by 30 years and they know it. they weigh in on every political issue and they don't have business doing that and they got caught and they are trying to blame donald trump and donald trump is the boogie man they cite. they are embarrassed and afraid of the public and will reach for any excuse they can, they are trapped by their own behavior and words, we know them by what they say. >> laura: we gave you a short one tonight, we'll have you back. this is not going away. jack smith made a request to the supreme court today on issue of donald trump's perspective immunity or lack thereof. we just got breaking news on this, we'll bring it to you in mom moments. hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still runs marathons, right? sadly, not anymore. wow. so sudden. um, we're not about to have the "we need life insurance" conversation again, are we? no, we're having the "we're getting coverage so we don't have to worry about it" conversation. so you're calling about the $9.95 a month plan -from colonial penn? 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>> this is about election interference and the time table they want to get trump convicted before the 2024 election. >> laura: you have to speed it up? this is highly unusual. >> you have to speed it up, they brought unprecedented case, never before has this come up through the legal system. trump has legal defenses like i was president then and there are tricky immunity questions. instead of legal process playing out like it usually does, they are insisting there is public importance in this trial date. >> laura: biden is down in five, six, seven swing states. so sad. >> depressing thing as an american to see we are really in a banana republic. this other tn election interference. they want a d.c. jury to essentially decide the 2024 election by having this jurisdiction whereby the way in the last election biden got 92% of the vote and trump five. so they want to tell the rest of the country, oh, no, trump was criminally convicted in d.c. are you going to vote for a convicted felon? i mean, this is all a set-up. and, again, the legal system, whoever is right or wrong on some of these legal issues. we have a process. and i think it is particularly important in an election case like this to make sure that the special counsel crosses his ts and dots his is,. >> laura: why doesn't congress bring him to capitol hill. congress has a role here. >> 100 percent. >> that's why justice scalia thought all of this was basically unconstitutional. >> whole special counsel thing. >> >> laura: accountable to no one. >> this such a charade. it's not us. it's this special counsel who is doing it. >> laura: politico just reported moments ago that smith has extracted data from the cell phone trump used while in the white house and plans to present evidence of his findings to the d.c. jury to demonstrate how trump used the phone in the weeks during which he attempted to subvert -- i mean, this is what it is now in a presidential election year. you are going to take the cell phone of the guy who has beaten the other guy by how many points? >> laura, again. >> laura: come on. >> there is no question that january 6th, if trump is the nominee, will be a major issue. buff the democrats don't want to fight this in the political. they want to say oh, no. this is a criminal case. this is -- this is the mighty halls of justice. this is, again, this motion to the supreme court can only be explained by their dyer desire on timing. there is no imperative public need to have this trial in march of next year. what's the imperative public need on that? no, it's convenient politically because, otherwise, it's very unlikely, given normal judicial procedures and processes that this won't be decided before the election. and that's the worst of all worlds for them. >> laura: the voters? >> yeah. >> the voters don't seem to buy into any of this. >> listen, we will see what happens. i have to say the one law that they can't manipulate is the law of inintended consequences and so far it's not worked that well for them on this. >> laura: chris alan day, you made some complicated great to see you as always. >> ukrainian president velasquez came to deck to -- j.d. vanc hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? 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what's next? nato countries. our sons and daughters are at risk of being a part of a larger conflict. >> laura: i guess the democrats never really were antiwar. they were were just anti-us. meanwhile, what do americans say that they want and they desperately need? well, the residents of west monroe, louisiana were featured in a cnn report that really caught my eye today. watch. >> people don't realize this is kind of like a third world country. there is need for clothes, food, housing. there is many, many homeless in this area. >> i don't know how these families that come to this redneck parade, this community even can buy groceries because you got to either choose to buy gas or do i buy groceries or do i pay my electric bill. >> this has managed to happen in the last three years. >> we are ready for trump to get back in. >> do you think that biden doesn't care about people down here? >> i don't think that he has a clue. >> laura: i actually teared up watching this report. it was so heart breaking. joining me now is ohio senator j.d. vance. senator, the frustration in americans' hearts and minds now, given what is going on and, yet, they are made out to be putin puppets because they want america to be focused on first? >> laura, it's utterly disgraceful. we are about to go through the united states tomorrow a very undignified process where zelenskyy comes to town and demands that you give him the american taxpayer gives him another $61 billion and oh, by the way, if you want to secure your border first, you are actually a putin puppet, he said this publicly today. i think it's disgraceful. i think it's grotesque. i think that it comes at a time, laura, when republicans are actually showing some unity and some courage about the importance of the american southern border. so this is purely designed to apply pressure on republicans to give up their fight on the border and write another blank check to ukraine. i'm not doing it. i don't think republicans should go through it at all. >> laura: if zelenskyy was smart and i don't think he is, if he were smart, do you know what he would say to biden? we are desperate. europe is not going to pony up the money, we're desperate. you need to work on your border. if you really show good faith on your border, they are going to support us or maybe they will support us. but if he were smart, he would do that but he is a fanatic and he won't do that. >> exactly right. if he were smart he would apply biden to come to the negotiating table on the border. we have been very clear both the pro-ukraine and folks more skeptic of ukraine funding, laura, we have been clear you don't get another dime until the president focuses seriously on border security. this gives lie to the idea that zelenskyy is just a totally admiral figure. >> laura: oh, please. martial law. >> he is coming to the united states of america. >> laura: lecture us. >> lecturing us and demanding more american taxpayer dollars while he throws priests and other figures in jail. i think it's disgraceful, laura. i have been in the senate for almost a year now. this is the most disgraceful charade that i have seen in my year here. >> laura: americans should make their voices heard they don't answer the phone if you call. yes they could. call the u.s. senate and the u.s. house of representatives. zelenskyy kicked off his d.c. visit by taking a shot at lawmakers like you. >> if there's anyone inspired by unresolved issues on capitol hill, is just putin and his cyclic. [sic] click. they seem dreams come true when they see the delays or some scandals. >> this is every twitter. >> laura: how does that pray west monroe, louisiana tonight. >> it doesn't play at all, laura. we are trying to get zelenskyy to think rationally about this. people in louisiana. >> they said he was going to win. >> what about to the summer offensive? >> laura: no accountability. >> minimal territorial gains. they still want another $61 billion. and the only thing that's going to accomplish is turn ukraine into a permanent client state in the united states. laura, they are going to be unable to pay their pensioners. they are going to be unable to pay the basic function of the civil government. that is where this policy has led. it's disgrace. >> laura: we learned this weekend we are funding 1/3 of ukraine's government. that includes teacher salaries, janitor salaries. everybody -- not just the military. everybody's salaries are funded by the u.s. taxpayers as the people in our country are deciding between food or medicine. >> right now people in ohio can't afford food. young people can't afford to buy homes. we are paying for their government. you are exactly right. we have got to focus on our own problems. laura, the thing that is in our best interest is to get the killing to stop. that's what we should be doing with american leadership. not writing more blank checks. >> laura: why doesn't he go lecture europe. see how far that gets him. as the g.o.p. primary basically over? 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>> denialism. the fact that they refuse to accept the real numbers that are taking place. not only in iowa but new hampshire, nevada and south carolina. laura, where it gets really interesting is in this poll in iowa. 76% of all likely caucus voters say they are open to voting for trump. of the 51% that say they are voting for trump. 70% right now say we are not changing our minds. we are locked in. ron desantis, trailing by 32 points, only has 30% of his supporters saying we are locked. in 70% of them saying we are open to changing our minds. 34% of nikki haley say we are locked. in 66% say we are open to changing our minds as well where it gets really interesting to me, laura, is the evangelical vote. that's where desantis has staked his entire play in iowa. trump is beating him 51-26. with evangelicals. i just think iowa is desantis' last stand. is he not winning new hampshire. south carolina, nevada. i think they are going to try to prop up haley as long as possible. she is going to lose south carolina definitively. march 5th, super tuesday. trump will win so many delegates the race will be effectively over on march 5th. >> laura: we were talking earlier about why jack smith wants to hurry up and get going with this trial. because he sees what is going on. i mean, anyone who says political hasn't been around very long. these numbers are defying everything that the establishment said and told the american people after january 6th everything like you are say hope and see wants. proves more than anything trump were hit by a bus tomorrow nomination to nikki haley. even with people dropping out all around her. out of the nomination, people are not going to her, because aside from republican voters, who got caught in a time machine in 2005, the only people who really want her to win are the donor class. and they are pushing this lie but it's not getting her beyond anywhere beyond 16%. >> laura: as for biden big plan to resurrect his campaign. i screamed laughing when i saw this is to bring back hillary clinton okay? nbc is reporting that her role is only expected to grow in the new year for now she is filling a space at a later point in the campaign season former president barack obama will join. so, she is the only democrat, since 2004, to have lost an election by 2016 and they are going to bring herr back so, so we can get back to bleach bidding and blackberries? what is that going to accomplish? somehow going to bolster confidence with biden's re-election campaign. i'm not really sure what she brings to the table except for her losing habits. it's not -- it's definitely not going to be helping biden's re-election. but, the other thing, too. the panic has to be developing with biden when you look at these battleground states, laura. i mean, the fact that trump is beating biden by double digits in michigan right now in some of the latest polls people are looking at these numbers going we might have a serious problem as some of us have been saying for a long time. >> laura: could be a landslide. >> if joe biden actually is the nominee. >> laura: i can't believe i'm saying this. if these numbers are any way accurate and bit of movement among traditionally democratic groups african-american men, latino. >> right. >> laura: this could spell what is a modern electoral landslide not like 1984. this could spell doom for the democrats. they are just fanatics. they are not going to change their views on any of these issues. >> their numbers do. i do expect them to get closer. trump is blowing out joe biden. at love that is frustration with joe biden. >> laura: wait a second, chris. you think biden between now and november is going to get more competent? because i think obama goes next to biden he looks smaller. when obama shows up, okay, that's the beatles, now we are dealing with a b level act. >> i don't trust as the election comes closer. >> laura: they are going to cheat. >> suburban white women voters went to trump to go back toward him. and also i do think the loss of muslim voters for michigan is not going to trump but hurt him. corruption in the big city machine could say make up the difference. >> laura: corruption in philadelphia? well, i can't imagine. ned and chris, great to see you both. religious celebrations attacked on campus and some universities themselves and royal christmas fail? 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