campus. it's not my job. it's your job. >> it's time for the soul of our university to reclaim its integrity. it's time for me and my fellow classmates to stop worries for our lives. >> why today a jewish student is afraid to walk the library? >> i'm very troubled by what you're reporting. it's our top priority to keep our students safe and secure. >> can you tell us why the university did not react like other universities might have or hoped harvard would have? >> respectfully the notion that harvard did not react is not correct. >> anti-semitism last no place as harvard. >> what action has been taken against students harassing and calling for the genocide of jews on campus? >> i can -- >> what action have been taken? i'm not asking -- >> neil: all right. that went well. that are ivy league schools, but these days more like poison ivy league schools. fox on top of university leaders in the hot seat as the house probes rampant anti-semitism on their campuses. did the presidents of harvard university, the university of pennsylvania and massachusetts institute of technology say anything to ease the concerns of jewish students like taliah khan today? the students you just heard from. did some stock traders have advanced knowledge of the october 7th attack and try to cash in on it? we trace the trades and the money. you decide. "your world" starts right now. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. busy news day for you. let's get to it and to a hamas on the hearing that ended up being a whole lot more about drilling. aishah? >> it was indeed. good afternoon to you, neil. the hearing just wrapped up. at the end of it, none of these presidents of these universities really budged on anything at all. they are standing firm by their actions, defending and supporting freedom of expression, freedom of speech. that includes they protests that we're seeing across the country. they're saying they're going to continue to support that as long as none of this free speech actually crosses in to harmful conduct. take a listen. >> we embrace a commitment to free expression even of views that are objection able, offensive, hateful. >> now, this is essentially what you heard om all of the presidents today. republicans claim schools are regulating speech. just speech that they don't like. >> you cancelled an event with former ice director tom holman due to disruptive student protests simple because he worked for former president donald trump. >> i disagree with the characterization that we treat speech differently. that kind of -- >> you're speaking out of both side of your mouth. >> so republicans and democrats were pretty much on the same page during the entire hearing. the only thing that they disagree on is what is causing the rise in anti-semitism. republicans blame liberal ideologies on these campuses. they say it's being taught on these campuses while house democrats argue anti-semitism has been here and on the rise for quite some time. congress woman jayapal going as far to blame former president trump for what -- some of what we're seeing right now across campuses. >> neil: amazing. thanks, aishah. let's go to taliah khan there. you saw her in some of those sound bites. an mit israel alliance president and very smart woman and very direct. you were making it clear long before this hearing how you felt. you send that message loud and clear. you think you got any people saying she's on to something here? >> well, thank you for having me on. thanks for your kind words. i'm so glad that we had this hearing today. it showed the entire world what students have been saying for the past two months. that all we get is lip service. we get things like oh, free speech extend to this hate speech, even to these violent chants for globalization of a tafada. that was mass killings of innocent israelis. i think what the reporter just spoke about is really poignant. during covid, one of the c catholic chaplains at mit was forced to step down. now we have an interfaith chaplain that interrupted an event four times making jewish students and nonjewish students feel so uncomfortable because she said, you know, israel is oppressive colonial apartheid state committing genocide. she made jewish students to raise their hand to get a kosher meal. it went individually to all of these students. we had an indigenous student e-mail to say they as a nonjew felt uncomfortable. when we reported this, we were told this didn't qualify as harassment and nothing has been done to this person. it's only free speech for thee and not for me. >> neil: this has been going on awhile and i talked to other students, not quite as eloquent as you, saying this undercurrent of anti-semitism, we didn't realize it was rampant and so personal until the october 7th attacks and israel's response. you go to one of the most prestigious schools in the world. one of the hardest to get in to in the world. do you feel out of place now? what do you do? >> this is something that i said this morning the press conference. i reiterated it in testimony that i gave to congress woman fox who was kind enough to repeat this in front of the presidents today at the end of the hearing in her closing remarks. i want to be a student. i didn't come to mit to be some sort of jewish advocate or, you know, to be on the news. i would prefer not to be on the news all time. not to have to be fighting every day for jewish student safety. the presidents are not doing their jobs. it's very clear from the testimony today they're just -- it's all lip service. they're saying oh, we need more education. we need everybody to be against hate together. they're not doing any concrete actions that are making jewish students feel safe. even sally conbluff said incidents at mit are unreshe dented. they're ten times higher than incidences of islamophobia. she's never seen anything like this. these stories have taken her breath away. she knows what's going on and still has not been able to do anything. >> you know, you go also not only to one of the best schools in the country, in the world but one of the most expensive. some of the schools that were represented today are fairly pricy. we're looking at room and board, north of 82,000. i hope you don't pay full freight. you probably have a scholarship. are you surprised that schools this smart that they could be this dumb? >> honestly, it's unfortunately not surprising to me. anti-semitism has become normalized among liberal universities, among the liberal elite. it's very unfortunate to see this normalization of anti-semitism. we see it with the students, the faculty and the dei officers and among the staff. you know, we even had faculty when students expressed their concern about feeling unsafe at mit, they said okay, if you feel so safe, go back to israel. that's ridiculous. it just not okay at all what is happening at mit. >> neil: what are you studying? i'm doing a ph.d. in mechanical engineering. i'm on a dod fellowship. >> neil: after hearing you today, many people might be knocking on your door to see your interest in politics. thanks. very good talking to you. >> thank you so much. >> neil: all right. meantime some startling revelations concerning the october 7th attack. we explore andexplain after this. struggling with the highs and lows of bipolar 1? ask about vraylar. because you are greater than your bipolar 1, and you can help take control of your symptoms - with vraylar. some medicines only treat the lows or highs. vraylar treats depressive, acute manic, and mixed episodes of bipolar 1 in adults. proven, full-spectrum relief for all bipolar 1 symptoms. and in vraylar clinical studies, most saw no substantial impact on weight. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about unusual changes in behavior or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. report fever, stiff muscles or confusion which may mean a life-threatening reaction, or uncontrollable muscle movements which may be permanent. high blood sugar, which can lead to coma or death, weight gain and high cholesterol may occur. movement dysfunction and restlessness are common side effects. sleepiness and stomach issues are also common. side effects may not appear for several weeks. ask about vraylar and learn how abbvie could help you save. (car engine revs) (engine accelerating) (texting clicks) (tires squeal) (glass shattering) (loose gravel clanking) >> neil: could it be haas traders knew in advance of the october 7th attacks that were coming on israel and decided to short some stocks particularly very well-played and widely bought israeli stocks, short them in the hope of making a huge pro fit that they would tumble, which is what happens when you short a stock tied to that event? some are dismissing it. we'll get into that in a second. the two study author's say there was unusual trading going on in the period of september 15th when all of this trading supposedly started up until october 5, about the thursday before the attacks that we would see that saturday. more on that in a second to greg palkot on all the busy developments since. greg? >> hi, neil. yeah, let's get you up to date on the the war here. we're at a staging area from the israeli defense forces. we're looking at artillery, jets in the sky, armored personnel carriers shuttling forces back and forth to the action. the attention is on the southern part of gaza. that is where it is believed the leadership of hamas is hiding out. real military says that gaza is seeing the most intense air strikes of the entire war and most significant, the intense ground combat. critical remaining areas also targeted in the northern part of gaza. israel now saying that according to sources that 15,000 have been killed since the start of fighting, but they say of that 15,000, 5,000 have been hamas fighters. now to the study by new york area law professors. they say they found unusual trading in the israeli stocks in the run up to the terrorist attack. they said traders with inside information linked to hamas could have acted on that and shorted stocks about to fall citing activity in major shares incl including israeli banks. it must with said, neil, the reuter's news agency quoting authorities at the stocks exchange and stock regulators have knocked down the stocks. the studies authorities stick to their guns as the folks here on the ground try to undue a terrible attack back in early october that took at least a lot of people by surprise. back to you. >> neil: greg, one of the things the study points out, there was unusual trading. critics said it was against stocks being placed that large. that the author's claims it was millions of dollars. they claimed 900 million. now a possibility that they just did not understand the relationship. having said all of that, it does come at a time when israeli officials a little more than a week ago had to deal with this "new york times" report that they knew well in advance that the attack was in the offing. they missed it. we missed 9-11 as well in this country. easy to play monday morning quarterback, but this gets back to whether hamas could have indeed profited off of this or traders working with hamas did. that hasn't been ruled in or out. i'm wondering, i must make some israelis nervous. >> well, certainly, neil, their assertion is made that people did know before, various intelligence sources, warning the israeli government, prime minister netanyahu that this was in fact going to be happening. so words, speculation, worry about it, concerns about hamas actually doing something horrendous cross border from gaza over israel was out there leading to the speculation that some others on the other side could have acted on it. still to be sorted out. >> neil: thanks, greg. when you're shorting stocks, you're anticipating that they're going to go down and you're going to make a lot of money making that bet. the largest israeli back was the target of that. from the authors of this study and they have gotten a lot of criticism from the israeli government. we've seen no shorting of this israeli companies, we do identify a sharp and unusual increase just before the attacks in trades and risky short dated options in these companies expiring just after the attacks. the governor and the exchanges saying there's no there-there. charlie gasparino with us from fox business. charlie, this is not the first time we have talked about unusual activity in a market ahead of an event. 9-11 comes to mind before the assassination of john f. kennedy where minutes that we got word of his death, the market was freaking out. there's been periods. i'm wondering here where you think this goes. >> i covered in 9-11 stuff. it looked bad. mainly a sell off in treasuries that took a hit when 9-11 happened. the government couldn't put it together. the notion that osama bin laden was in hid cave shorting treasuries was just a bridge too far. this one is a little different in the sense that -- i spoke with the authors just so you know. they make the point about the trading of the options was very unusual. that it spiked dramatically right before the hamas attack. you know, this is like a hard thing to prove. they will even admit that they haven't proved anything. they have showed a confluence of things going on at the same time. there could be a lot of reasons why these etfs, particularly that's what they were focusing on had a surge in activities. maybe somebody read something off of a message board. this was floating around. the question is, is any of this illegal? probably not. that's number 1. number 2, did someone profit off of this horrible catastrophe? it's largely impossible to prove. my guess is that there's some counter veiling reason why this happened. listen, we're always on the look at conspiracies. we're in a conspiratorial age here. some israeli reps have options activities and people look at hamas and the hamas attacks and say bingo. >> and put something together later. you're right about this. you're so smart on this. but you can use the funds to buy stuff here and maybe altered stuff. the studies don't indicate anything was wildly out of order at the time that this was happening from september 15 to october 5. the markets in general, not just in israel, were getting hit around that time. financial -- the dow, the nasdaq and s&p down. financial issues were falling 10%. that's long before the attacks. having said that, they always can find unusual trading at any time to pair with a big event. i'm wondering here, would authorities now in israel already-embarrassed, it's easy to play monday morning quarterback here by these reports that the government was warned of a hamas attack by this, pounce on something like this and say that did not happen? >> my guess is that they have a lot bigger fish to fry right now. worrying about -- think of it this way. i have nothing against the authors. joshua is a smart guy. i spoke with him. he has some political biases here in my view. his whole thesis here is that the trading occurred in what is known as off exchange funds pools of liquidity known as dark pools where you can match buyers and sellers or do short trades outside the new york stock exchange, the nasdaq. totally legal. he's against that. part of this is fitting with his entire sort of theory about the markets that we should get rid of dark pools. >> neil: and you're brilliant at this. dark pools involved dark characters again now identifying. a lot of exchanges have a way too make sure that you can identify them. >> dark pools are not mysterious at all. you can match buyers and sellers off of the new york stock exchange and the nasdaq. they didn't want any competition from any other exchange. there's some controversy surrounding them. joshua talks about that. but my bigger point is think about it this way. if you knew this was happening and you wanted a short to stock, wouldn't you have done a lot more? it seems like it's so trifling compared to what went on. if you really wanted to capitalize, there's got to be a way to make more money than trading some options away from the major stock exchange. >> neil: the only other argument to that, letting people hear both sides, by making a lot of money, you would draw more attention -- >> but making a little money. >> it wasn't 900 million, might be as low as 90 million. but we don't know. they're tearing this apart. >> do these guys really care? if the terrorists are doing this, do they really care about making a lot of money? >> neil: i don't think it's the terrorists per se but people making coin off of what happened. thanks, charlie. i did want you to hear that. you heard about this report. we want to sort out those that believe it and think they have the data to prove it. it wouldn't be the first time we've seen unusual trading data before a big event. so in the eye of the beholder. we report it, you decide. we'll continue reporting on this. more investigations on fox business. revelations at the border. this time in arizona side of it. bill melugin is in lukeville, arizona. bill? >> neil, mass illegal crossings continue here where border patrol is struggling to keep up and people cross illegally from all over the entire world. 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>> neil, good afternoon to you. we had a group of seven men from syria cross illegally. they're at the end of the line here waiting to be apprehended by border patrol. this sign has been like this throughout the day. more people come coming. they're coming in from all around the world. this is a lot of men from africa, others from the middle east, some from asia. there's no women and children here. these migrants are frustrated. this arizona town is in the middle of nowhere. border patrol is struggling to keep up with the influx. we had a chance to talk to a couple of guys from liberia. they want opportunity in the u.s. one had a message for president joe biden. take a listen. >> i love you, joe biden. thank you for everything, joe biden. i'm a good person. >> i came here because i want quality life. america is a land of opportunity. >> take a look at this remarkable video. we shot at one of the breaches in the border wall. officials were trying to fix it as it happened. groups started streaming through that breach, through that gap trying to get in the country so they could take advantage of the situation happening while border patrol was watching there. you'll notice at the end of the clip a human smuggling. his client get there. he looks at the camera, salutes us and walks away. border patrol frustrated. some of these people have been camped out for days. they have luggage, backpacks. some say they will wait action long as it takes. they believe that they will be released in to the united states. this tucson sector has been ground zero for the border crisis. cbp sources saying yesterday alone there were 10,000 my grants encounters. almost 3,000 of them happened here in tucson with lukeville being ground zero and the incenter of the border crisis. they're coming in from all over the world. back to you. >> neil: the smuggler sort of all by waving to you there, if he had the opportunity, maybe raised a finger to you there, don't care about this, right? go ahead. videotape away. there's no fear of anyone doing anything to stop the guy, right? >> not at all. the mexican government do nothing. they have done nothing for months. that's why they operate with no fear. 20 yards away on the other side of the wall. the mexican government has done nothing to stop the people. whether it's put cutting through the wall, using power tools or stopping some cartels and smugglers from bringing these enormous groups of people to the border. there's been zero interference from the mexican government. you can see the smugglers, they have no fear. they wave to the cameras or in the case of another reporter, she was flipped off by another smuggler. there's no fear and they don't have any reason to fear. border patrol is very frustrated about that. they can only control what happens on the u.s. side. >> thanks, bill. seeing it first hand on the border. a good time for the authorities at bay to talk about border security. that seems to be going nowhere fast. why the cochise county sheriff says that's the problem. very few people think it's a problem after this. pantene's pro-vitamin formula repairs hair. as well as the leading luxury bonding treatment. for softness and resilience, without the price tag. if you know... you know it's pantene. there's something going around the gordon home. good thing gertrude found delsym. now what's going around is 12-hour cough relief. and the giggles. the family that takes delsym together, feels better together. sofia vergara: dwight was a 13-year-old kid with cancer, when he came to st. jude. dwight: this kid is now 73 years old. sofia vergara: that's what we do at st. jude. marlo thomas: give thanks for the healthy kids in your life, and give a gift that could last a lifetime. what did we do before viasat satellite internet? 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i'll say this to you, neil. one last thing here. when you close a legal port of entry to address illegal entry with no consequences, we're backwards. we have lost our stability here on a the border. >> neil: what is scary, sheriff, the got-aways. sometimes there's no way your guys and everyone else can keep up with that. so we don't know where a lot of these folks end up going just like trains that make it to the united states. we're close to the border and empty out and people can't process where they're going. i'm wondering now, given the rush of this, that it's not only out of control, but the dangerous elements are also out of control. >> well, we buried an agent 1 1/2 weeks ago that died in the line of duty. our office investigated it. seeing the hundreds of border patrol agents at the funeral. seeing the local police chiefs and my office, myself. when i didn't see was our congressional people from arizona there. we didn't see the white house there. the reality of this border. neil, you're right. they're not engaged, they haven't prioritized it because this is what they want. an open border. it places every american at harm's way. we're a county of got-aways where people are fighting. now we're addressing the give-ups here. >> neil: sheriff, you're used to this. i'm shocked when i see it. bill melugin with a smuggler behind the gate, the fence, is, you know, all but giving him the finger. happy to be videotaped and happy to be seen. he goes back to do the same for others sneaking in here and paying him a tidy sum. that is ballsy, pardon my french. >> you're right, neil. the fact that they're unobstructed. people are just walking in our country. think about it. there's hundreds and thousands of people there stuck in my county when they release them they're. they're there and there's no border patrol to address them. who is just coming in that we don't know about? 600,000 last year alone. that should be alarming like director ray says from the fbi. we're headed for a crisis in this country and americaness to wake up on this. if we don't secure this border and then't doesn't start prioritizing it and i don't see any intent that he will, we're in a bad shape here at the border. i had a conversation with sheriffs, national sheriffs last monday about the crisis on the border. the president or vice president has failed to meet with sheriffs. we have called that out. they told me when it comes to our concerns on the border, that there's apples, rotten on trees because there's not enough labor to pick them. that's what i was told a week ago monday. so you understand my frustration. >> neil: i can understand it well. thanks, sheriff. scary stuff. good catching up with you. be well. >> thank you. >> neil: all right. you know, i know i like to say the numbers. i follow the numbers. it's not a right or left thing. i have little use for that. this is something where the numbers are staggering. as i said a few years ago, it used to be from three countries primarily that we would have those trying to get through the border. now 130 plus countries and some afar away as china, the middle east. you name it. it's a numbers story that is alarming. that's what makes it so scary. our politicians are ignoring. we'll see if the politicses at the debate in alabama will ignore it. nikki haley is the one to watch because the donors are watching her. a lot of money is going her way after this. my a1c was up here; now, it's down with rybelsus®. his a1c? 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>> when i first endorsed tim scott, i narrowed it down to nikki haley and tim scott. >> neil: something about south carolina. >> yeah. wonderful state. when tim scott got out, it was an easy transition for me. they're from the reagan wing of the party. believe in a positive american vision a city on a hill. it was an easy transition. >> neil: so you're a northeasterner. >> i am. >> neil: you passed on chris christie. >> yeah. i want someone that can win. chris christie is in it to stop donald trump. he has -- nobody believes, not even he believes he can win. >> neil: i don't know about that. he believes he can. but that was not something in the offing. the pool is getting smaller with each and every debate. i don't know what the next one will look like. nikki haley is certainly getting the money and the support. we were chatting during the break about this. is she the latest flavor? what about this alternative to donald trump? what about this alternative to donald trump? >> the difference between a flavor of a month and when someone can win is when the party coalesces. when you have people like myself backing nikki haley and americans for prosperity, which is predominantly from the populous wing of the party, it shows she can -- >> neil: bringing in money is one thing. votes is another. she's done better in the polls lately but still a country mile behind donald trump. you mentioned -- let me ask you this. you mentioned something that chris christie brought up yesterday that a conviction will change everything. in other words, an all of these indictments and charges. i look at the polls with him. with the indictments, he gets stronger and stronger. >> we discussed this the last time. i don't think he gets stronger and stronger. look at the three states that matter. iowa, new hampshire and south carolina, trump is around 40%. he's no longer over 50%, which you have to be at to win a one-on-one race. >> neil: but it's not a one-on-one race yet. >> not yet. after iowa, nikki haley doesn't have to win iowa. she has to finish ahead of desantis. i'm confident she will. once she finished ahead of desantis, he's finished. he put all of his eggs in that basket. >> neil: y think he quits. >> he qus. then you get to new hampshire. governor sununu has said he will make an endorsement -- >> neil: if he endorses her. >> that will make a big difference. >> kim reynolds has done nothing to help ron desantis in iowa. what makes that a big deal? >> makes my point. nikki haley is not the flavor of the month. she's rising. she doesn't just have the -- >> neil: you mentioned sununu and important an endorsement like that would be. >> caucuses are different. new hampshire is a primary state. sununu just like the governor of iowa -- >> neil: why are you so sure that donald trump can't win the whole thing? >> i'm about 100% -- you're asking me about the general election or the -- >> the general election. >> neil: why? >> because he's the most disliked person in america. >> neil: he leads in all of these polls. you're right. that could change. maybe people like you have it wrong. they don't want the guy that you're assuming that he can't win. >> my crystal ball broke yesterday. i will say this. he lost in 2020. he stayed out of virginia and youngkin won. we don't need to know much more than that. he went to atlanta. went to georgia. made sure we lost two senate races. he then -- then we had all of these wonderful senate candidates that couldn't lose. >> neil: so you blame him for that. you're not going to support him even if he's the nominee? >> i'm going to focus on the u.s. senate. >> neil: and vote for no one for president? >> i will vote for president. >> neil: but not for him. >> i will vote for president and work on the senate. he will lose the white house. >> neil: would you vote for him if he were the nominee? yes or no. >> we have a long time. >> neil: you're good. >> thanks, eric. meantime here, you've heard about these attacks on u.s. ships in and out of the red sea including many from all over the world. there's talk of a task force to protect them. senator make wayne mullen on that after this. 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