reporting that hamas decided to delay the second round of release of hostages, after yesterday, that included 13 women and children. i'm jacqui heinrich. griff: i'm griff jenkins. despite the delay of the release. a delegation arrived to meet with israeli officials where they're discussing possible extension of the cease-fire. hey, alex. >> hi, jacqui and griff. the officials say they will not release the hostages or delaying it until there's more aid that comes into gaza. we will have to continue to monitor this. it's worth noting yesterday that the hostages were released a couple of hours after the initial expected release time. now, what we're also seeing are those heart warming photos and videos of families being reunited with loved ones and who has successfully made it home and who is back on israeli soil. and danielle and her daughter, and adina, and magda, and we're seeing them hugging families members as they arrived and this is a 9-year-old boy who celebrated his birthday, hugging his father and brother and hugging his mother as well who was also taken hostage. because of the remarkable condition that a lot of the hostages are after nearly seven weeks in captivity. the release today is expected to be different. they will skip the air base and go straight to the hospital and then they'll meet their family members. as part of this deal was the increased humanitarian aid to gaza and that's what is reportedly creating the snag in this release of these hostages, this potential delay, so far the cease-fire has allowed the flow of more critical aid like medical aid, medical equipment, and shelter equipment for the more than a million people who have been displaced because of the fighting, overall, hamas is expected to release these 50 hostages, including potentially three u.s. american citizens by monday, in exchange for 150 palestinians. so far it seems that the cease-fire has held. there have been no reports of cross-fire within gaza, not exactly the case of what we're seeing in northern israel, there have been sirens there and drone interceptions within the last day, something that at least u.s. officials say they were hoping would create a lull in the fighting there, which from the north we have spent weeks and it's been incessinces. >> what else have we heard from the release and what was it like? >> we're learning from one. hostages, a woman in her 70's, the conditions were better than we initially had expected. there were no cases of torture, they were never physically harmed. they were able to watch tv and listen to the radio and she says that's how she learned that her son had actually been killed. so they ate the same food as their captives-- or captors, i should say, eating vegetables and bread and cheese, but the conditions that they're in, again, the doctors had expected much worse conditions, so there were preparations in place to take them to different hospitals where potentially they could be treated for much more serious wounds. they had the different kinds of equipment to be expected, noise canceling head phones, sunglasses if case they hadn't seen sunlight in seven weeks. much better than expected and why when the hostages get released if everything is according to planned, they will be taken directly to the hospital. there's hope that everything will start to move no matter the minutes or hours, several hours into this potential release of these hostages, so the goal is to try to get them back on israeli soil by the end of the night. griff: alex hogan kickings things och. jacqui: americans are not expected to be in the next group released by hamas. lucas tomlinson. >> that's right, the white house officials don't expect american hostages to be released today and are hopeful that some of them will be released in the coming days. speaking in nantucket yesterday, president biden was asked candidly, where are those americans coming home? >> we don't know where that will occur, but we expect it to occur. i don't expect hamas to do anything right i only expect hamas to respond to pressure. >> and president biden says the weeks of pressure helped to get the first hostages freed and there are others in captivity, including 10 americans. and they're hopeful that american hostages, including the little girl, abigail eidan. >> they're coming whoever to support the palestinians suffering greatly because of the war that hamas released. hamas doesn't give a damn about them. >> shortly after making those remarks, president biden and the first lady did some shopping in nantucket and went into a bookstore and later had lunch and he was met by protesters yelling free palestine and also they followed the president and the first family to the annual tree lighting ceremony here on the island and we'll show you what that looks like more in the next hour, jacqui. jacqui: lucas tomlinson for us in nantucket. for the latest on the hostage releases and the possible extension of the temporary cease-fire, let's bring in the israeli spokesman. thank you for being with us. i want to look at the reporting about the delay and releases. hamas is sort of giving conflicting reasons according to two different reports, why this is happening. reuters is reporting that hamas is delaying until israel will commit to allowing aid trucks into northern gaza and then you've got axios saying that israel violated its terms in imposing some restrictions or i guess, conditions on who is released from the palestinian prisoners. can you just tell us what is the cause of this delay? >> we're not going to comment on sensitive issues relating to the hostages until they are safely back on israeli soil. human lives hang in the balance and this is of course, a perilous moment, but it's important to be clear, every moment that hamas has kept onto those hostages since october 7th, every moment it holds them in the dark and their families in the dark is an ongoing crime against humanity. hamas can release those hostages now. hamas could have released them yesterday. hamas could have released them on october 7th and never had to abduct children from their beds in the first place and we're demanding that hamas continue to return the hostages and we're insistent to put military pressure on hamas after the completion of the first stage of the agreement that will be seen through. >> it's only military pressure that's going to bring hamas to bear. it hasn't decided to be nice. in fact, it's showing it's continuing to psychologically terrorize the people of israel every moment it hangs onto our children and those hostages. jacqui: i hear you. for folks who expect their loved ones to be home today and then they hear of this delay. is there any concern that the agreement is coming off the railsments we are insisting that it's going through and hope to get these people back. it's a sensitive evolving situation and i cannot comment on anything that may address those families. 50 days for those children, loved ones, grandmothers are held in hamas captivity has been torturing for them and we're demanding they be returned and we know this is an organization that's completely ruthless and inhumane and we saw the atrocities on october 7th and continuing to perpetrate since then. we're not expecting them to keep its word out of a sense of honor, but demanding that it comply with that agreement and we'll continue putting military pressure until we get all of our hostages back, not just 10, not just 20, all of them back. >> just to clarify, when you talk about continuing military reserve pressure, are you suggesting that this pause in fighting may be lifted that the fighting could resume unless hamas follows through to allow to get these hostages out? >> the fighting will resume eventually, the question is when. the agreement at the moment is for a four-day hostage release pause in exchange for the first 50 hostages, women and children. we're hoping that this will be extended, for every 10 that hamas releases and it takes two to tango. it must release those women and children and we will accept nothing less. >> or else if the pause will be unpaused? >> or else, let's see what happens now and let's hope that we get those women and children back tonight. jacqui: why is it do you think that americans are not among the first to be released? is hamas trying to use the hostages as leverage to pressure israel in some way? >> i wish i could comment what hamas is thinking, it's hard to get in the minds of monsters who would take a 10-month-old baby and hold it for a ransom. and abducted children on a day when they burned, beheaded and raped those on october 7th. they're not thinking through the lens of values that you or i would understand. when it comes to try to analyze what hamas is thinking, i would be at a loss. jacqui: there's this issue of proportionality, i think it's three palestinian prisoners for every one hostage. how did we end up with those numbers? >> we're in a very difficult situation at the moment. hamas is holding our children, it's holding israelis babies and we want them to get back. releasing violent criminals is not something that israel ever wants to do, it's a bitter pill we've had to swallow in order to facilitate the release of those women and children. it's important to remember, nearly half of the prisoners on that list were slated for release are men. they are males over the age of 18. and all of them are in jail at the moment with-- on charges or conviction of violent offenses, talking attempted murder in some cases, stabbing attacks, shooting attacks, offenses involving explosives, these are not random people who were taken from the streets, these are violent criminals. jacqui: and last quick question because we're almost out of time. optionally, how much does this cease-fire, this temporary cease-fire set israel back in terms of completing its mission to eradicate hamas? >> we're going to continue putting unrelenting military pressure on hamas and certainly having four days in which the idf itself can recharge batteries and reorganization it, get its act in order will put us in a stronger position in order to continue the fight ahead and this will continue until we get the hostages back and there will be no one left behind and this war will end with the end of hamas as president biden said yesterday, at that press conference at nantucket in response to the october 7th massacre, the total destruction of hamas is a legitimate military aim and we're thankful for the united states standing shoulder to shoulder with us, as we face that difficult task. jacqui: thank you for your time. appreciate it, take care. griff. griff: and jacqui, as mr. levy was saying, the fighting will ultimately continue and what can we expect in the days to come, we're joined in the studio by colonel dakota wood. and i want to pick up before jacqui left off. the battle space. this is the rafah crossing where the hostages go through and hopefully more will go through egypt and make their way back to israel. but the khan yuis, this is where for nearly 50 days you've had the palestinians evacuating told to go south, but in this area, you're going to hear, i think, a lot about khan yunis, because believed to be the architect of the october 7th attacksen he was born in a refugee camp, and nicknamed the butcher of khan yunis, you see him the gray-haired man with the scarf around his neck and they believe he may be here and when the fighting resumes, we can expect fighting in the area which is more densely populated. >> and part of the butcher you described, he's skilled some fellow palestinians, because he believed they were aiding israelis in some way. he's grown up in the world of hatred, anti-semitism and ruthlessness and you can expect he'll use the populations and the civilians in the southern area as cover. meanwhile, hamas has been urging these gazans to move back up into the northern part of the gaza strip. so this flow of humanity back and forth, the israelis are going to have to account for that. you're right the densely populated area, how do you be discriminating in going after at hamas terrorist fighter and not attack civilians who might be on the road or taking shelter in a hospital or a camp. griff: and colonel, that gives an advantage. if indeed hamas are pushing fighters back north, it's creating a cover, if you will, to disguise hamas fighters amongst the innocent palestinian population. >> they have been use ambulances to move back and forth and the certainly the reports given about 300 miles of tunnels, but over 400 or so tunnels themselves that have been identified and destroyed, there are many more left. you have the tunnel matrixes, and recall that the idf isolated the northern section and continue to monitor communications traffic to see what hamas is trying to organize during this cease-fire period, but they have to come south here because that's where the supplies are at, the leadership has moved to and this is also been a bastion of planning and executing attacks as well. it's not just northern gaza. griff: so keep your eyes on khan yunis. i want to go to this area, while you and i were stuffing ourselves with turkey, for more attacks on the u.s. personnel, and what do you make of how this stands, colonel, and how concerned are you that eventually an american in one of these attacks could lose their life that could change the trajectory where things stand? >> over 60 americans have been injured in some way, right? traumatic brain injury from the explosive blasts, et cetera. so, that's certainly likely, i think, not just possible. but the reason the u.s. is in this area anyway was to ride herd on what remains of the islamic state here in eastern syria. all of our support mechanisms, air support, fire support, intelligence in western iraq supporting operations. we're not just there hanging out, it's a great collection capability. to the extent that iran is supporting its various militant groups in syria and in southern lebanon, if you recall hezbollah, that will continue to pose a threat to the united states. and tend to spread pressure of the united states to get out. your earlier report about no u.s. hostages being released in these things, it's all pressure, pressure, pressure, by iran through its minions in this region to try to could he hers u.s. behavior and support israel. >> let's try and connect some dots here, if the administration, president biden becomes more forceful, if you will, in encouraging continued cease fires, is that em boldening iran to increase these attacks? >> oh, absolutely. it's everything that iran wants, every kind of concession that it made to iran, iran has exploited that. the moneys freed up that were frozen, either in iraq or in south korea have been used to support these groups. the iran nuclear deal. you have the continued production of enriched uranium. so every opportunity they have to take advantage of these good natured or good faith sorts of efforts is exploited and the only thing that seem to respond to is force, hence why the israeli force on hamas has resulted in some of these. >> i've got to end is there, colonel. last five seconds answer. if an american does die in one of the next attacks, is that a red line for the administration to respond to? >> you would have thought we had red lines before. the two plane strikes at the warehouses, no change in behaviors. they have to be more substantial, cruise missiles strikes against training camps before they result in the deaths of some of the fighters. it has to be that kind of brutal response to continued attacks on americans. griff: lt. colonel dakota wood. thank you. jacqui: calling for a permanent cease-fire in gaza after hundreds of people flooded the street near washington square park yesterday. and alexandria hoff has more. >> we're not talking locally grown pop-up protests. this is call to action, shut it down palestine, and it's black friday through this weekend and disrupt which is as usual. we saw is yesterday in new york city, at least a thousand anti-israel protesters met at washington square park calling for a palestinian uprising in the middle east. from there a massive crowd uptown swarming black friday shoppers and demanding their attention. >> i mean, people want to shop peacefully, you know? and then you have this. i think it's getting a little out of hand. i mean, i don't know what to tell you, but it needs to stop. >> it's not going to stop today. both uniformed and plain clothed n.y.p.d. officers are keeping a close eye as more are planned this afternoon and one is kicking off about now. chicago shoppers in the city's downtown were confronted similarly and rally goers were hoping to sway people away from spending money on gifts because of the aid that the u.s. provides to israel. >> biden and kamala harris and all the senators and all the congress, who are allowing this to happen. they are complicit in this genocide, they have blood on their hands and we are going to hold them responsible. >> cities, big and small, major traffic disruptions were reported. in los angeles police issued a precautionary city wide tactical alert as a large group of anti-israel protesters disrupted shopping at the grove shopping plaza. here in d.c., too, smaller groups causing traffic backlogs around the city and the tyson's shopping center in virginia. a look at atlanta, eight protesters were actually arrested near the lennox mall from refusing to disperse from a roadway. jacqui: a lot of action out there. alex hoff, thank you. griff: jacqui, the former minneapolis police officer convicted of killing george floyd has reportedly been stabbed in prison. indicators, including mental alertness from one serving. to help keep me sharp. try new neuriva ultra. think bigger. the ergo smart base from tempur-pedic automatically responds to snoring. so, no more hiding under your pillow. because this 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george floyd in may of 2020 was recorded on cell phone video reviewed by people across the world and sparked protests around the globe and triggered immediate demands for racial equity across the u.s. chauvin a 19-year veteran officer was sentence today 21 years for federal civil rights charges that he pleaded guilty to and he was also sentenced to 22.5 years for second degree murder by the state of minnesota. on monday, the supreme court rejected chauvin's appeal of murder conviction and he's serving both sentences concurrently at the correctional institution in tucson. that facility has had problem with staffing shortages and security failures. just last year in november, november, an inmate at that prison pulled out a gun on a visitor and tried to shoot him in the head. now, that gun misfired and no one was injured, but a very, very disturbing incident, griff. griff: very much so. getting weapons like that inside prisons. christina coleman live with the latest. thank you. jacqui: 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joining me now to discuss more about the crisis at the southern border is former dhs secretary ken cuccinelli. the numbers are astounding. in addition to that 50,000 got-aways in the first 50 days. that's essentially a thousand individuals illegally crossed every single day since the new fiscal year began on october 1st. we have no idea who they are, where they're from or why they're here or where they are in our country now. how concerned are you that as we watch what's playing out overseas in the israel-hamas war that someone will be inspired and will come across our border and pose a threat to us here? >> honestly, i think that's already happened. it's a question of what do those people do and when you're talking about got-aways. you're talking about people eyes were laid on as they ran across the border, but couldn't be detained. there are a whole bunch of other people and we don't know how many, who we never saw because our border patrol was so busy acting like a greeting committee, not that they want to do that, but president biden and secretary mayorkas have them in that role and that thousand a day in the got-aways reminds me of jay johnson, the secretary of homeland security under obama, who said it's a bad day when we get a thousand and that's a thousand that they detain. this is a thousand got-aways a day. this is a very bad situation and it's very difficult to undo. it can be undone, but it will take a level of political commitment that has not heretofore been seen. griff: ken, you put your finger where i was going to go next. really, we saw texas governor greg abbott endorsed former president trump. i know you have thrown quite a lot of support behind governor ron desantis. whoever the republican nominee is goes on to win, assume, what do they need to do, what are the first three steps and how do they get this under control? at this point i don't think anybody other than cakarine jean-pierre would argue that we have a crisis on our hand. >> i agree with that and secretary mayorkas wouldn't answer under oath, of course. the first thing to be done, to move the military to the border and seal it. building a wall is nice, but that takes years. president trump never really got going on the wall until year number four where over three quarters of what wall was built was built in one year. he declined to use troops on the border to stop people from coming in. there were troops moved down there just like joe biden has that really didn't do anything to stop at the border, stop people at the border. that's step one, griff. and then you need the political will to actually deport the people who are already here. unfortunately, and part of the reason i support desantis over trump is that president trump would cancel deportation exercises, not exercises, operations that we had in place because he didn't want to look mean. well, we're going to have to be deporting a million plus people a year, which is a level we haven't reached in 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and how are retailers responding to that in terms of hiring this season? >> yeah, jacqui, holiday season, thankfully it's a tradition. unfortunately, 25% of americans in fact have holiday debt from last holiday season so they're already sitting on quite a bit of debt and despite some rosie predictions and platitudes from president biden, the fact is most americans are hurting. several studies, jacqui, have shown that 60% of americans are living paycheck to paycheck. credit card delinquencies while low are rising and auto lone delinquencies are rising fast. only 14% of americans say they're better off under biden in terms of economics and finances, that's probably the best example of it all. not such a merry christmas for many in the economy. jacqui: people are spending even though they don't have the money to spend looks good for the economy, ultimately it's not. is that what you're saying? >> the bills are piling up for the nation and everyday americans. credit card debt at an all-time high at a time when the interest rates are all-time high. people are paying in excess of 20, 25%. numbers that inflation has come down, but overall everyday americans are suffering dramatically and you're going to see this month and this week when it comes to holiday shopping as well. jacqui: let's look where people are actually spending money. according to the national retail foundation, only about 24% are doing their shopping at small businesses. what kind of an impact will this have on jobs when you consider that 58% of, you know, the-- their spending is going to online retailers, discount stores are getting 48%, department stores 49%, but small businesses are the driver of the economy, right? >> they really are, and small business accounts for 48% of all employment so we often talk about microsoft and apple and the major corporations and especially as invests, but the small business is an invaluable part of the economy. more than anything it's local, it's especially responsible to consumers needs and to the communities needs and there's a multiplier effect, jacqui, small business in particular. every small business according to some studies impacts 18 ancillary jobs and local home values as well and keeps that economy and money local. so, absolutely, do some holiday shopping today, but focus on the small business. every apple and amazon started as that small business, one or two entrepreneurs trying to make it right and pay their employees. why all of these factors, especially like taxes and regulations. big businesses can handle that, it's the small businesses, small entrepreneurs that impacts the most. jacqui: that brings us back to this challenge that the president is facing, when you have people unhappy about the state of the economy, you know, a lot of people who are dissatisfied with him on that front are small business owners. and it's what i noticed over thanksgiving, the biden-harris 2024 campaign put out this sort of memo on how people should handle difficult political conversations at the dinner table over the holiday and it reads the economy was better during trump, that would be the allegation, and their response that they've scripted for people is, wrong. trump had the worst jobs record of any president since the great depression, inflation the lowest than in two years and growing, unemployment under 4% the longest stretch on record. look at your thanksgiving co costs? can they say this or leaving pieces out that might fill out the picture. >> there's an old saying, don't pee on my head and tell me it's raining. people are feeling the pressure, they're living paycheck to paycheck. and societal ills, talking about crime going on especially in democratic-led cities and small businesses report thefts of between 500 and $2500 a month. this is real money as is every extra 1% or 5% tax in regulation that regulators want to put on. you want to see a thriving small business and that's what we should be supporting today and every day as well. jacqui: that's why the president is saying hey, look at us from the outside perspective. the rest of the world, their economies aren't doing so hot. you should take a glance from outside the bubble and reevaluate your attitudes. that's what they're going with anyway. jonathan hoenig. thank you for your time. griff. griff: thousands of protesters are marching in london. we'll take you there live next. r postal service. with easy, more affordable ways to ship. so you can deliver even more holiday joy. the united states postal service. delivering for america. the subway series? 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