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Americafirst agenda to next level and a different generation to do it stuart that does it. I repeat, that does it. For the second republican primary debate live from the Ronald Reagan president ial library. Dana thank you to all the candidates we loved having you here tonight and we will see you out on the campaign trail. Ilia have a great evening everyone, good night. Sean welcome to hannity, the second Republican Debate is now in the books and we are live from the spin room at the Ronald Reagan president ial library in beautiful simi valley california. Coming up in just moments governor ron desantis, nikki haley, vivek ramaswamy, mike pence senator tim scott will join us right here on set. By the way someone you might not expect to see at a Republican Debate, California Governor Gavin Newsom will join us. I have to ask him, i came to the state first thing i see is 7 a gallon for gasoline. We have a question, too, though to ask him but they do have In And Out Burger. At first sparks were flying at tonights debate as all seven candidates easily demonstrated the ability to run circles around joe biden, we can start with that point. Well get Laura Ingrahams take in just a minute. But first here with reaction in the spin room Fox News Contributor Kellyanne Conway and fox business host larry kudlow. Good to see you both. Headlines you run away with. Anybody on that stage do a better job than joe biden and Kamala Harris, i think donald trump is a little bit of a winner tonight because when his name was invoked he kept saying he should be here to defend his record and debate and face the people. Why would you want him there when hes going to eat into your time and i think eat into some of their sound bites. I thought it was a little flat today. I thought everybody had a good moment, but moments, sean, will not overtake a front runner leading by 40 points. Moments wont tell the American People what you would do differently. Sean it has to be a big moment. Were in the Reagan Library so we can say this remember there were a lot of questions about reagan going into the second debate with mondale and he turns to him and goes i will not allow my opponents youth and inexperience become in this campaign. Even mondale laughed. There was nothing like that. Everyone did enough to make it to the next debate in miami which is the goal. What are you doing between the debates, you have to get out there and mix it up with the people. I thought the moderators were very well prepared. You get extra credit if you actually answer questions, they came to play but had something to get out. They took to china which was great, taking On Bidenomics and inflation, young people cant afford a house, people in debt, 40 year high Interest Rates and inflation, people are suffering every day. I think there was enough Connective Tissue from these candidates tonight that they can make a case. I know a little bit more about your struggles than maybe joe biden, but i dont i think the polls arent going to move much. Sean yeah. Larry. Yeah, there were a lot of little moments, no big moments. Its hard to get a big moment. Remember reagan said to carter, there he goes again. Sean there he goes again. Oh, god, for 40 years people have been using that line. So its hard to get a big moment, i agree with kellyanne. I wanted somebody to say, as per reagan, like i worked for reagan a long time ago, i come into the Reagan Library, we played all these Reagan Clips On My Show tonight, i wanted someone to say, as per reagan, that government is the problem not the solution. Sean yeah. Actually played that clip of reagan when he said it, nine words, i believe, in the english language. Yeah, im here from the government and im here to help you. Sean here to help you. Thats right. I also wanted someone to say that we need to get four or 5 Economic Growth not 1 so we should be slashing taxes across the board, we should be lowering marginal tax rates the way John Fkennedy Ronald Reagan and donald trump did. I want someone to say that tough stuff to get the economy moving. There are a lot of good points on the economy. They acted more like republicans this week than they did the last debate. Did they make the sale on the economy . Im not entirely sure. But they punched away at it to some extent. I still dont Think Bidenomics was buried today on that stage. I just dont think so. I dont think they were direct hits and i was disappointed. Sean would you both agree with me . I felt there were a couple of people, and im not going to sit here and be insulting and name nays that just didnt have much Business Being on that stage, we all know they dont have a chance and for them this is their moment. Maybe the criteria needs to be a little tighter going into any future debate . Well, theres going to come a time sean and larry where you have to justify being on the debate stage if youre mired in Single Digits. If you truly want to get rid of joe biden and Kamala Harris, they talk about yawn at this time, they say the democrats have unity, every single democrat was the same way, inflation reduction act, not for the jobs act, amy coney barrett, they all voted for hakeem jeffries, every one of them. We can have unity to defeat joe biden. Its early in the process but if youre mired in the Single Digits in the early states and nationwide, you have to ask yourself how much can isaac fuse on behalf of the team to get rid of joe biden . Well see what gavin newsom has to say, hell probably bring a message tonight thats a little bit better than maga maga maga Republican Demurable Irredeemable but if youre a democrat tonight you have to be very worried that joe biden and Kamala Harris are not even being asked what they have to say about it. Sean right, let me ask you this. Sean can i ask a question. Sean this is a Exit Question we have the governor coming on on in a minute. Heres my Exit Question did any one distinguish themselves as a clear person with donald trump having such a dominate lead in the polls as the one person that could give him any run for his money . I dont think there was a breakout breakout if thats what youre asking, no. I dont think so. Sean kellyanne. No, not enough to overcome him in the polls. Enough to survive. So i think their best argument, War Of Attrition slow and steady wins the race. But, no, nobody there made the case as to what they would do differently or better than he did. They want to build a wall, they want to secure the border, they sounded a lot like him. And, look, i give them credit for taking on the big issues, but i dont think that there was enough clarity. And, sean, i said to larry earlier in the day, i want to come out tonight feeling like i didnt feel in the first debate which each person has a two or three point prescriptive plan to fix this issue or that issue. Forget what we want to hear. This is what the American People want to hear and the Debate Moderators were asking questions on behalf of We The People that werent being answered with We The People. Tim scott i have to give him a lot of credit because he did this riff on blacks, african americans, somehow surviving through slavery and then went on to say that the Great Society of lbj and all the democratic president s since then have made the black situation worse, not better. Breaking up the black family. Sean that was a powerful moment. I thought so. Sean he faced discrimination but americas not a racist country. I have to give him credit for that whether he wins loses or draws that was something to behold. Sean hes an inspiring speaker. You have to be brave to say that kind of thing and the data shows that senator tim scott is absolutely right. The worst thing to happen to Minority Groups and africanamericans in particular in this country in the last hundred years was the Great Society. And theyre leaving the Democratic Party hispanics particularly. Sean good to see you both. By the way great being on your show earlier, too. Thank you appreciate it. Sean joining us now with more, i see ron desantis is pulling up, hell be the first guest, is the host of the hit show the Ingraham Angle, The One And Only laura ingraham. Now, just a moment, if i may. The single most question im asked is, how come we dont have the handoffs anymore . How come laura doesnt, you know, poke at you every night. I know, my football, i left tonight the other room, darn it. I was going to throw it at the screen but theyd be matt at me if i break another camera. Sean number one i miss you but you look great, doing a fantastic job. But let me tell you, do have tailing into your previous conversation with kellyanne and larry. I think after watching this tonight the debate i want to see before your debate that youre going to host between, of course, desantis and newsom, is desantis and nikki haley. Because for me, at least, tonight those two emerged as the strongest advocates for their brand of conservatism. Nikki haley is a lot closer to the gop establishment, donor base, on issues regarding ukraine and, you know, the Immigration System is broken, all that kind of lingo. And then you have desantis, whos much more in the pupulous strain of donald trump, and probably the person, if trump ends up being the nominee, the likely person to pick up the torch after trump. So a debate between those two, maybe without a moderator, unless its you, i think would be fascinating for the American People. Sean youre saying you want to have Governor Desantis debate nikki haley on your show. I got it. A little bit. But, no, us what im saying. You see what im saying about this . Sean no, i understand. Thats it. Thats the struggle inside the party, the populous part of the party is much bigger, 84 of the party versus, what, 26 of the party or 16 of the party depending on what polls you look at. So i think that would be interesting. But i agree, i dont think anyone had like a socko moment i know viveks coming up hes a very bright guy but he seemed like he was on the defense they were coming on him. Burgum seems like nice guy but intoes move on down the road. Chris christie and pence, god bless them i love both of them but. Sean thats not a platform people want to hear. No, desantis and nicky hailey is the debate we want to see if Donald Trumps not going to be on the stage at least. Sean im going to ask the governor right now, considering you pushed that. Anyway, laura, we do miss you but were happy youre doing great at 7 00 thanks so much for staying up and being with with us we appreciate it. After another Strong Performance governor ron desantis. Good to see you. Tell you what ive been in california, got in sunday night. Sean good afternoons in the room. I was going to say people are buzzing about the debate youre going to do. I think its going to be incredible. But tonight there was a lot of bickering on the stage and my thing is look, we owe it to the American People to give our version about how were going to verse this countrys decline. I think i was able to do that. I think some of the cross talk, if i was at home watching that, i would turn the channel when i saw that. So i think we were able to rise above that and deliver our message. Sean in my view there were a couple people on that stage in my view that probably shouldnt have been there. Right. Sean at that point it lends itself more to a conversation. It is interesting, i think this debate with you and the governor is going to be very interesting, so im looking forward to moderating that, and i think with 90 minutes, just plenty of breathing room, that will lend itself to more conversation. And you know what . Maybe we can say, since the former president couldnt come here maybe he would be willing to do one with you and i. I think he owes it to our voters to come and make the case. Sean so this is going to be hannity one on one debate central. Lets do it. Sean ill ask him. Heres the thing you owe it to the voters to come and make the case. No ones entitled to anything. You can say some poll months before. No, you have to make the case and you owe it to the voter. Im going to show up everywhere, and i think there were some important issues that were discussed tonight, theres also others that i know you and i have talked about that werent discussed, but at the end of the day i think the thing that was clear for this, theres a lot of talk, a lot of people had good things to say, im the guy thats done it. In florida i did everything i promised, we delivered and were sick of the talk with republicans. They always promise all that. What are the two biggest issues right now . The debt and the border. You and i have been talking about this for as long as weve known each other. Isnt it time we get a person to come in and bring it to a conclusion and a landing. And i think if we can do that with the nomination and election were going to get this done. Sean nobody brought up the point regarding the border and i thought you had a strong position regarding what you would do to close the border and, you know, no nonsense, get this thing closed. Its now become to me, more than anything else, a National Security issue. Yes. Sean we are catching people that are on the terror watch list. Were not vetting anybody. We have no idea what their background is. People are coming from china, russia, iran. All of our enemy countries, theyre coming across the border. I hope im wrong but if i had to bet my life savings i will bet that there will be a Terrorist Attack that happens in the future of this country thats going to be. Sean i pray were wrong. Heres the thing, these guys in dc they dont care. Theres no urgency, some of our guys in the house care but the elites in dc they dont care, biden doesnt care. Hes missing in action on this as the carnage mounts. I agree. I think that this is above all a National Security issue. Now, theres also nuts and bolts issues. I mean, the amount of illegals that are pouring in, medical care is being taxed, schools, its overwhelming communities far away from the border. You see it in new york city. Sean in new york city, theyre paying on average 40,000 per illegal immigrant. And theyre kicking out the veterans to make room for illegals. Sean the veterans never had the four star hotels. Theyre building all these facilities, they expect to spend 12 billion in the next 18 months and, you know, theyre claiming this came from governor abbott. No. Greg has sent some i think its very good. Sean its 13 . Heres the problem with this government we have and people are frustrated. They cant tell us how many illegals are coming across the border or how many tanks we nest afghanistan. They cant tell where you the money in ukraine went. They cant tell you how cocaine went in the white house. But if you do 601. Sean they spent ten long days investigating where the cocaine came from, and they concluded theyll never get a conclusion. But in the menendez case they found the fingerprints on the envelope so they claim who handed it to senator menendez. I cant believe he had all the gold bars, thats a real testament to bidenflation. Sean how much is a keel 0 of gold worth . You cant make this up. Generally speaking, i guess the theme of the night, as i watched and listened to you tonight was, okay, these are the tough stances i took in florida. Thats my proven track record, and thats what i want to bring to the white house. Thats your yes, look, i think its leadership and its deliverables. So we can have great Slogan Earring we can have great debates but if were not going to get this done then none of it matters. One of the things im thinking about lately preparing here i looked at reagans farewell address, in 2023 in january what would i say to the American People after serving two terms and thats really the vision of, youre going to be able to get ahead again in this country were going to have an economy that works for people, our sovereignty restored and borders enforced. Were going to make sure we have education not indoctrination. We will be the worlds leading super power and we will fend off the threat from china successfully. Were not going to have crime overrunning every city in america anymore and were going to restore the constitution so we have a limited government that words beside us on our behalf not one that works over us. If we can do that we can restore the shining City On The Hill reagan talks about and turn over america to our kids and grandkids better than we found it. Sean governor thank you for coming by. Thank you. Sean good to see you. Another candidate with a Strong Performance tonight gop outsider vivek ramaswamy. Take a look. One is we do have to seal that southern border. Building the wall is not enough. Theyre building cartel financed tunnels underneath that wall, semi strucks can drive through them. We need to use our military to seal the swiss cheese of the boarder. We have to be honest. Theres a Demand Side Problem in this country, too, a Mental Health he can democratic. I met two parents in iowa, they lost their son sebastian. He bought percocet on snapchat and then he died. Why did he die . It was laced with fentanyl. That is closer to bio terrorism not an overdose. That is poisoning. At our job to make sure that never happens but its also our job to make sure that 17 year olds dont turn to percocet via snapchat. We have to bring back Mental Healthcare in this country. Sean all right, joining us now vivek ramaswamy. Sir, how are you . Good to see you, sean. Sean you just told me your favorite part of the debate was after the debate when your son came on stage. It was the last five minutes when he came on, i saw him sitting quietly in the front row, hes three years old and thats about as well behaved as ive seen him in a long time. Im proud of him. Sean hes at the Reagan Library i wouldnt expect anything less. One of the more contentious moments was nikki haley saying every time i hear you i feel dumber. Feeling dumber thats the first time ive heard that ill take that as a first. But my view tonight there were a lot of personal insults coming my way, thats okay. These are still good people. I respect the Policy Disagreements that we had but im not running against any of them. Im running for this country. And i think part of what you saw is, i am the new guy and i do have to earn the trust of the voters at home. Sean i want you to slow down with that. And i respect that. Sean that moment struck me. You were sending a message, maybe i come off as a little know it ought at times. I understand that. Sean im a Talk Show Host, every Talk Show Host youll ever meet comes off as a know it all so i identify. But what is it that you really want to tell people that dont know you and see you and see youre outspoken what do you want to communicate. Having ron convictions and being humble about your scope of knowledge those arent incompatible they go together. The way i built my businesses is i surround myself with people who challenge me the best and brightish to push me to be the best version of myself. When im Commander In Chief i expect there will be several people on the stage who i would be relying on on that stage. Sean you sure you want chris christie. I didnt say all of them. But even people off that stage. But requiring taking America First movement to the next level but im going to do things differently, im going to reunite this party and this country. And i do think it is a going to take somebody of a new generation. Somebody whose best days are still yet ahead in life to see a country whose best days are still yet ahead, too. I truly believe that. Im not one of these its morning in america people, its not morning in america right now but it can be and its going to take a new generation. Sean i would say america has been in a precipitous decline. It has been but it doesnt have to stay that way. Sean heres the problem, everything were dealing with thats gone wrong, our borders, all selfinflicted wounds. Energy prices, have you seen the price of a gallon of gasoline out here. Absolutely. Sean Law And Order, safety and security, our School System, all fixable. The good news is its all fixable, drill frac embrace coal burn nuclear, stow paying people more to stay at home than go to work, Stott Leaping China Untouched Declare economic independence from our enemy Communist China who we cant trust with the phones in our pockets to the pharmaceutical supply chain which i understand and know well. Sean trump put a tar he have on them. Trump made them pay. I think we have to go further than that. Sean whats further. Total decoupling. Wont let them buy land or turn companies into lobbying pawns, unleashing hell on the world with the covid19 pandemic. We cant forget about that. That was catastrophe inflict order us and we if we dont hold them accountable we can expect worse in the future. In the Reagan Library tonight. Sean how cool was that with your jet over your head. It was a beautiful sight. It was inspiring to me. What did he say . His Foreign Policy strategy against the soviet union was we win they lose. Now chinas the threat, i say to Communist China we win they lose, thats how im going to lead. Sean okay. There was a guy that wasnt on that stage tonight and hes got a massive lead against all of you on that stage tonight. Yes. Sean okay. Thats obstacle number one. Well, look, the way i look at it is, i was a little different than everybody else on the stage. The reason Donald Trumps on the stage lets be honest is he was an excellent president. Im an American First Conservative Imnot A Trump first conservative. We need to reunite the country to the neck generation to take it to next level. So i will honor the legacy more than anybody else but i think ill take it further. Sean do you believe that these indictments are first of all. Theyre political shams. Sean theyre all politically motivated. Theyre shams. Sean i think they are too. I will pardon him day one and i stand by it. Sean if he asked you to be vicepresident what would you say. I would ask him to be my most important mentor and advisor the first year when im in office. Sean if you dont make it for some reason. So sean. Sean you dont want to answer this question. Its not about me or about trump. Its bigger than us. My belief is i will be best positioned to reunite this country as the next Commander In Chief but im humble now surround myself with The Very Best and trump is absolutely on that list. Thats how i see it sean i thought your best moment was when you were just open, i may come off as a know it all this and that i have to introduce myself and prove myself i thought that was a good moment for you. I appreciate being honest and candid. Sean thank you. Thank you sean. Sean more from the spin room when we come back nikki haley, former vicepresident mike pence, tim scott and, yeah, were in california, one great thing about california, In And Out Burger. One horrible thing i can tell you being out here, sevenplus dollars a gallon for gasoline. Well ask the governor gavin newsom. Hell be with us on set straight ahead. Type 2 diabetes . Discover the ozempic® trizone. I got the power of 3. I lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. In studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. Im under 7. Ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease. Im lowering my risk. Adults lost up to 14 pounds. I lost some weight. Ozempic® isnt for people with type 1 diabetes. Dont share needles or pens, or reuse needles. 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Joining us now, former ambassador, former governor of the great state of South Carolina, nikki haley is with us. Governor good to see you. Good to see you. Sean you prefer governor. Its nicky. Sean youre very nice to say that. Interesting moment i just asked vivek about the moment you had with him, every time i hear you i feel dumber. We cant trust you vivek. Wow, that was a pretty powerful shot. Why. Because you look at the fact that he was in business with a Chinese Company to make chinese medicines, not with an American Company to make american medicines, a Chinese Company to make chinese medicines. Then you go and look at the family he was doing business with and he turns around and is in business with the family that gave hunter biden 5 million. And then he wants to suddenly go and promote tik tok . I dont trust it. I dont trust it. Sean i agree with you on tik tok, i dont trust it either. No, but everything all of this was Chinese Communist party related. How do we trust it . Then he suddenly decides not to be in Business The Second he decides not to run for president. It smells bad i dont appreciate it. And we have a country to save, i dont trust it. Sean i cannot understand about this president , they lie to us and say the borders closed, the borders secure. Our eyes do not deceive us but they continue to lie. But i trust the American People. Sean how does china get away with, lets see, a spy balloon flying all across the continental us over a military operation, why did we let them buy thousands and thousands of farm and ranch land, why are they our air force in International Airwaves in our navy in International Waterways and there are no consequences . Why . I mean, look, i mean, this was the whole issue that i had with president trump. He was great on trade. He never held them accountable for covid. He never did anything about the fentanyl coming across. He didnt stop them buying our land. There was a chinese spy base in cuba he didnt do anything about that. This is our number one National Security threat. Sean he did get for the first time that i think i know of in history, he certainly had them pay their fair share when it came to trade. He did trade. Sean untrade factors. But he didnt do National Security and our farmers are paying for it and were seeing it with all the intrusion were seeing in america, that should have been stopped years ago and he didnt do it. And on top of that, he congratulated the Chinese Communist party on their 70th anniversary. You cant be nice to people like that. These guys want to destroy america. They are planning war with america. We have to start being strong and tough with them and let them know they cant Kill Americans anymore. Sean governor theyre telling me, we appreciate you being with us. Great job tonight. Hope you had fun. Thanks its always fun. Sean beautiful place to have a debate ill say that. Go to nikkihaley. Com and join us. Sean appreciate it. Earlier tonight vicepresident mike pence slammed bidens disastrous economy. I bass governor of the state of indiana we brought ten thousand jobs back to our state in manufacturing, i know something about manufacturing. And i have to tell you while the union bosses are talking about Class Warfare and disparity in wages, i have to tell you, i really believe whats driving that is bidenomics has failed. Wages are not keeping up with inflation. Auto workers and all American Workers are feeling it and families are struggling in this economy. And joe bidens Green New Deal agenda is good for beijing and bad for detroit. We ought to repeal the Green New Deal, get rid of the mandates and subsidies that are driving american gasoline, Automotive Manufacturing into the grave yard. Sean form vicepresident mike pence joins us. Mr. Vicepresident , good to see you sir. Good to see you, sean. Sean okay. One of the things i thought you did tonight, certainly resonated, is the issue of policies that we know work. Right. Sean so much of what we americans are experiencing so much of it, unfortunately, is due to the fact that we have open borders, weve unilaterally disarmed on the issue of Energy Independence and energy dominance. We have a president with a very pathetically weak Foreign Policy. These are scary times. This is a country in decline as far as i see. All the more reason why we ought to go with what we know has always made america strong and prosperous and free. Were here at the Reagan Library. You and i both love ronald ray gag. Sean absolutely. Ronald reagan came to power when there was a failed democratic administration. Prices through the roof and america failed on the world stage and he stood forward and said we can actually make America Great again. Sean he said those words. He said those words and couple decades later another man came down the escalator and made the very same promise and donald trump and i governed as conservatives on the very same record of a Strong America at home and strong leadership in the world, limited federal government pro growth the right to life traditional values. But what i try to insert in that lively debate tonight was that i think republicans are facing a time for choosing. That we have to say, whether or not were going to stay on the path of that has defined our Movement Since the days of Ronald Reagan and through the trump pens years, or whether were going to follow the siren song of populism on more of the conservative principals. That means walking away from American Leadership and the world. Frankly the former president s actually advocating, sean, a 10 tariff on all imported goods into the United States. The Tax Foundation said that would cost 500,000 jobs. So higher taxeses, walking away from leadership and the world and, of course, marginalizing the right to life as many on that stage of sought to do. People need to know im the most consistent tested the conservative president and if im president were going to bring america back on that solid foundation. Sean do you believe that the country, politicallyspeaking, you know im pro life. I have an advertiser on my Radio Show Pre Burnings i donate for the you will ultrasound machines, they use science convincing women hey theres something magical growing inside them and they find more women choosing life than ever before. However, the Dobbs Decision was 15 weeks. And where i think politically this issue is, because i believe it played a big role in what happened with mastriano and frankly the whole ticket in pennsylvania, no exceptions rape incest mothers life. He lost by a bigger margin to a nonincumbent Cube Nahtorial candidate since the 1940s. I think that played a part. Am i wrong . Well, i dont think youre entirely it wasnt that it wasnt a factor i just dont think it was the dominating factor. When i looked at the midterm elections sean i saw candidates that were focused on the future, focused on the challenges that every American Family is facing under the failed administration of joe biden, our candidates did well. But largely where candidates were focused on the past, particularly relitigating the past, they did not fair as well. But, look, at the end of the day i so admire your Pro Life Stand over so many years, you know, millions of americans who prayed and supported leaders, and champion the pro life cause brought us to this moment. But the Dobbs Decision didnt just return to question of abortion to the states and that was a real difference on that stage tonight. I dont think we got quite enough opportunity to break it down. But the truth is that, whether its the former president or ron desantis or nikki haley, they believe that this should just be relegated to the states. Im pro life, i dont apologize foyer. I believe that the Dobbs Decision returned the question of abortion to the states and the American People, American People elect president s and congresses, i think its time to come for a Minimal National Standard. Im going to support sprong pro life measures in every state of the country to go as far as we can to protect the unborn but i dont want to leave kids, unborn children in California Illinois and new york the devices of liberal governors who promote late term abortion. Sean never get between a patient in any way, that means no exceptions up to the moment of birth or in the case of that lunatic, first well deliver the baby well, the democrats are are the radical position on this. Sean big time. Taxpayer money for abortion. Sean late term abortion. If im president of the United States im going to take the case for life with compassion and principle to the American People. 70 of americans would support a Minimal National Standard that says when a child can experience bane in the womb we ban abortions after that. Sean mr. Vicepresident good to see you. Thank you sean. Sean coming up, tim scott and hes the gore of the great state of california. This isnt just freight. These arent just shipments. Theyre promises. Big promises. Small promises. Cuddly shaped promises. Each with a time and a place theyve been promised to be. And the people of old dominion never turn away a promise. Or over promise. Or make an empty promise. We keep them. A promise is everything to old dominion, because it means everything to you. Sean all right, welcome back to hannity. We are live. Were in beautiful simi valley california at the Reagan Library. Joining us now, South Carolina senator tim scott. Senator how are you . Good to see you. Thank you for joining us. You had a lot of really interesting moments tonight. I actually wrote them down. I love when you called out vivek saying, excuse me you said were bought and paid for. Absolutely. Sean you said at another point which i thought was from the heart, passionate monologue almost, you know, america is not a racist nation. Absolutely not. Sean you talked about your background. And then the other thing, and its maybe not as popular with conservatives right now, you made a strong powerful defense about the need to degrade russias military. Take any one of those three. Think about the fact we live in the greatest country on earth but we dont celebrate it. We have people who say america is in decline. Actually we are in the middle of a joe biden retreat. Weve seen this movie before. Sean a joe biden decline, are we parsing words . Maybe. I dont think so. The difference between a decline, ive lived in devastated neighborhoods that felt like a decline. The 20 of americans who are living in the most devastated areas of our country need to understand that this is just a retreat. You can turn it around with the next leader of this country. By doing so, you restore hope, you create opportunities and, frankly, you stop the devastation in these big liberal cities that are marching towards socialism in the same fashion as the Great Society. Sean do you think that its so divided, is that why we have Governor Newsom on. Lot of people leaving california. You see the gas prices here. 6. Sean no, seven. Absolutely terrible. Sean okay. So you have a migration out of new york, california, new jersey, illinois. Theyre going to your state. Yes. Sean going to north carolina, going to tennessee, going to texas and florida. Yep, yep. Sean and why are they doing that . Because the red states have proven that america is still the land of opportunity. We prove that free markets and capitalism worked effectively. What we need in these big blue cities. Think about chicago as a classic example. 30,000 per student for education. And yet the vast majority of minority kids are below grade level. In detroit. Sean you see the 13 high schools in baltimore . Zero. Sean zero. Zero. Sean zero proficiency. You talk about the greatest absolute disgusting form of discrimination is brought to us by the Teachers Unions who are standing in the door house of schools today saying to poor kids, youre trapped in, youre never getting out. And what does that lead to . It leads to hopelessness, it leads to high unemployment and it leads to crime. Weve lost control of these cities because the liberals with their super majority have done nothing. Sean you said, and you talked about your background. You did a good job in your book about this, but you talked about america not being a racist nation. There are racists in this country. Absolutely. Sean and to me thats evil. Yes. Sean i believe were all children of god, thats my firm bee leaf. I agree with you. Sean not a doubt in my mind. Yep. Sean okay. So how is it that you have historically minorities in the largest numbers voting for democrats, okay, how are they doing with your School System and how do they treat you, they protecting yourself, is there Law And Order Safety Security so you can pursue your god given happy sneeze . We need to go where were not invited. We need an uninvited tore where we go to cities like chicago, detroit, minneapolis, los angeles and do one thing. What we do is we sell the gop. We sell the principles that under gird success and human flush i shalling, those principles are very simple. We need a Free Market System that actually says theres Room At The Top for anybody who works hard, gets a good education and has grit. Sean by the way, behind the scenes secret, your pastor, who i know well. Yes. Sean says youre not a preacher. He goes youre a much better politician. Senator good to see you. Thank you. Sean all right. Appreciate it. Coming up, california govern gavin newsom live on set when we return. Straight ahead. He says he stands with auto workers. But as president , donald trump passed tax breaks for his rich friends, while automakers shuttered their plants, and michigan lost manufacturing jobs. Joe biden said hed stand up for workers, and hes delivering. Passing laws that are increasing wages, and creating good paying jobs. Manufacturing is coming back to michigan. Because joe biden doesnt just talk. He delivers. Im joe biden and i approve this message. Sean all right welcome back to hannity. We are live from the spin room. We are at the Reagan Library in beautiful simi valley california and, well, the governor of this great state, gavin newsom is with us. How are you governor . Good to be back with you sean. Sean now that you went on your media for with your liberal sick fans, you come to reality and you love doing my show better. You just told me off air. I love doing your show the most. Its unbelievable that you can publicly Say Something like that. Amazing. By the way favored nation status for me the Reagan Library at a Republican Debate. Where else would i want to be . This is home court. Sean so now i want to ask you, honest question. So you see the atmosphere, you feel the electricity, you feel the room. I know where youre going. Sean you know where im going. I know where youre going. Sean and you just finished a president ial debate and now youre promoting a president ial candidate against the governor. Sean i know the truth. In your heart, in your mind, you want this. But you have basically gone on a Me Media Tour succeeding up to joe biden and you know it. Sean i know he has an extraordinary record to run on. Objectively he was a winner tonight. Sean objectively. These guys identified problems and biden has not actually only identified solutions hes gotten bipartisan deals to implement them. Sean look into that camera right there and you tell the people watching, do you think this border is secure . Because they keep telling us its closed and secure. Do you believe the southern borders secure. Do you believe with all the Fentanyl Deaths and opioid deaths, is this border secure. I believe Ronald Reagan was right in 1996 when he supported dprens i have immigration. Sean he also said it was the worst decision he ever made. I believe he did the right thing for the right reasons because he recognized its not just a border issue the entire system needs to be reformed we havent reformed since 1986. Sean youre not answering the kwechlt you just said joes successful. I think hes been unbelievable successful. Sean is this border secure. We all agree we have a Border Challenge and we agree we need to change the asylum system. We need to secure the border. Sean not successful in securing the border. Its factual. Sean the border was secure under donald trump. Overstated but i get your point. By the way i dont need to be educated on this, i have the largest land port in the western hems fear here in the state of california. I dont disagree. Sean but youre a sanctuary state. And its the largest economy in the world 7. 8 gdp growth in 2021 and we dominate on innovation. Sean and who pays for housing, food, clothing, education, healthcare, who pays for that . Well, 177. 7 billion operating surplus in two fiscal years and 1. 85 billion tax rebate the largest in American History as we expanded universal healthcare and providing more Services Including by the way Health Insurance which ron desantis apparently wasnt even up for the question. Sean save that for the debate with ron. Next thing, i come to your state first thing i love to do is bring money to your economy. I appreciate it. Sean i go straight to In And Out Burger. Hard to argue. Sean One Of The Best things in your state. Yes. Sean including the weather. You can keep going, but yes. Sean all phenomenal. However then im Passing Gas Station after gas station after gas station. Oh, youre right. Gouging companies are screwing us. Sean 4 a gallon in every other state 7 i saw here. Why is your state as much. 2 as of today, i monitor this very closely, i just did a special session. We became the first state in the country to do Price Gouging legislation with a new monitor just went into effect. These Oil Companies are ripping us off. Sean theyre only ripping off california though . 2. 06, this mystery so charge theyve been advancing for years and years. Sean but the average around the country is four. 2. 06 higher. Sean anywhere between 6. 5 and 7. 2. 06 higher. Sean your state is more than every other state. Exactly 2 higher. Sean why . Because theyre screwing us. Sean its not regulation taxing. Bs. 0. 85 low carbon fuel standard. Sean how much does california get per gallon for gasoline tax. When you add the gas tax you add cap and trade and the low carbon fuel standards and periodically add, im being transparent, and our unique blend you get a differential around 0. 85. That you can justify not 2. 06. Thats why the Oil Companies are squeezing. Sean you should be a dollar more a gallon. If you want to trust the Oil Companies i can assure you they dont have your back. Sean let me tell you something, when donald trump was president , Gasoline Prices nationwide never averaged 3 a gallon, never once averaged mosh 3. We didnt have giving back a million barrels, we didnt have opec screwing us, we didnt have a war in ukraine. We werent going through this covid Supply Chain Reality so there were a lot of competing factors that led to some of this. Sean but you also wait a minute. He made the Credit Energy independent for the first time in 75 years. We are more energy dependent today look that up its a fact. Sean false. Joe biden has yawn lattary. I encourage the people watching, 5. 94 quads. Sean look at all the restriction joe biden has put on oil and gas companies. We are more independent today under biden. Pence doesnt know that, your audience doesnt know that. More Domestic Oil Production than any time in history on pace this year. Thats a fact. You guys keep making it up. Sean we dont make it up. We were Energy Independent and now were not. We are Energy Independent. Were Ingraham Angle exporters. Sean were not. This is going to be so much fun. Sean anwar look at all the other restrictions. The highest margin of energy sport in American History under the biden administration. Sean i did have fun and for once you finally get back to me. I cant wait for polliti fact. Sean why dont you go to the washington post. Four pinocchios. Sean you get four pinocchios. I come to your state, love In And Out Burger, the high price of gasoline not your fault although you admit 0. 85 of it is. Heres the other thing, so i have a guy driving me, loves california, hates your taxes. Yeah. Sean okay . And this is what we see. He points out to me a bridge being built for the people, imagine this, theyre building the bridge for Mountain Lions. It cost A Hundred Million dollars, some of it private money, some of it government money. A lot of private money. Sean some of it government money. Yes. Sean so youre building bridges for Mountain Lions and rattle snakes. Among other things. Its a wildlife crossing. Sean a wildlife crossing. Because weve seen so many accidents we want to protect Peoples Health and safety impacting the economy and insurance and traffic in the region because of wildlife crossings, and we want to address a vision for this state as it relates to setting aside 30 of our land to be protected for future generations. Vast majority comes from the wallen Berg Foundation private sector and inspired a generation of kids and we want to inspire others across the country. Sean so you have this debate with governor ron desantis. Yes. Sean are you excited about it. More so tonight, he lied about fracking, nikki haley laid him out. He lied about fracking. He lied to the American People tonight. He did an Executive Order. Sean by the way theres only going to be two of you. You dont like him. No, well i dont like people who demonize other people or go after vulnerable communities. But i also dont like liars. In icky haley laid him out tonight. He signed a 2019 Executive Order, im a governor, i know what an Executive Order is. Why would you sign an Executive Order saying you will not do offshore oil rigs in your backyard and then blame biden for not doing more across the country. That hypocrisy is remarkable and haley laid him out. Sean save that for the debate. It happened tonight. Sean heres my question. Under any circumstances at all, yes or no, will you ever, ever accept the democratic nomination to run for president in 2024 under any circumstances at all . Thats a yes or no. Im looking forward, i was just in chicago with the dnc. Sean i dont need the long answer i want the yes or no answer. To president bidens inauguration of the second term. Sean will you accept it. Of course not. Its a hypothetical. Sean yes or no. No. Sean you should any circumstance. Its ridiculous. Joe biden is our president. Sean are you calling me ridiculous. Im going to In And Out Burger. Joe biden won tonight appear you are right about In And Out Burger and thats the great way to end. Sean the last thing, all those stupid interviews made you prefer to do our show. Love talking about gas prices and wildlife. Sean thats all the time we have governor thank you sean, good evening im Trace Gallagher and this is

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