washington on the big news regarding vaccines. 100 million of these johnson & johnson single dose vaccines that will be out there. i guess, kevin, pronto, huh? >> yeah, sooner than some expected. although to be fair, not as many doses unfortunately, neil as had been hoped for. this is a boon for all americans that still need to take the vaccine. this is great for everyone especially as we try to get the economy rolling again. the white house today actually told governors on tuesday to expect fewer than 400,000 doses of the johnson & johnson vaccine next week that is far below what they initially had expected to be available however, in making the announcement today with johnson & johnson and merck, the president said he's helping manufacture this vaccine under the deal brokered by the white house. that's a win for all of us. you may recall last week, mr. biden announced the u.s. would have enough covid-19 doses for every adult american by the end of may. that was in itself a two-month acceleration of the previous timeline laid out by the administration. here's his approach as by mr. biden not long ago. >> i said we have to treat this like a war. so i want to thank the two companies for showing how we can come together and defeat this virus. by putting patriotism and public health first. i mean that literally, patriotism and public health first. >> obviously this is the key here. yes, it's a boon for the manufacturers. a boon for shareholders. clearly this is a real win for american consumers. we're all trying to get back to what we perceived as normal prepandemic and this would seem to be a huge step, neil, in the right direction. >> neil: got it. thanks very much. kevin corke on all of that. we're now in the enviable position of having far more vaccine available than people that are getting it. so that have a double edge sword for a lot of states that are vastly changing their requirements to get you to get that shot. let's get the late forecast jonathan serrie following that. >> hi, neil, this is a sampling of the changes in policies. new york is lowering the minimum age for receiving vaccinations now to 60. in georgia, they're going to move the age down to people 55 and up starting monday. they also will offer vaccine to everyone 16 and older who have a wide range of risk factors. people with asthma, diabetes and obesity just to name three examples. alaska is the first state to offer shots to everyone 16 and up regardless of health. new york is lowering and i said new york is lowering its minimum age. nearly 33 million americans have been fully vaccinated against the coronavirus. that's almost 10% of the population and more than 31% of those 65 and older. the age group at higher risk. as more people get vaccinated and daily case numbers go down, expect more restrictions to lift. texas lifted their statewide mask mandate today. face coverings are encouraged but no longer enforced. businesses may operate at full capacity as long as the local hospitals are not inundated with co have it patients. friday, maryland will lift capacity on restaurants, venues and sporting arenas may operate at 50% capacity. maryland is continuing their mask mandate. georgia, which imposed relatively few restrictions during the pandemic reports hospitalizations have decreased significantly since the winter peak. >> we have made significant progress without a statewide mask mandate, the people of georgia did this without shutting down restaurants or bars or closing churches or houses of worship. >> neil, in the coming days, we're expecting revised guidance from the cdc on travel for americans that have been fully vaccinated. back to you. >> neil: all right, jonathan. thank you for that update. as jonathan pointed out, more states are dramatically changing things so that they can open this up to anyone and everyone. there's this huge chasm with available vaccines and those that are trying to get them. about a 30 million gap between the number of convenience available and the number of americans that have had them. let's get the read from dr. marty makary, johns hopkins school of medicine. good to have you. states are dramatically loosening the standards by which they can get people to get this, including some just saying look, if you're over 16, have at it. what do you think of some of these states trying to rush this process or adjust the log jam? >> neil, i get it. there's good news on the horizon f we're honest with the data, we're doing well and heading to herd immunity quickly. i'd remind people that it takes about four weeks for these vaccines to kick in. when people hear the good news, they think okay, i have my vaccine. now i'm good to go. you really have no immunity for the first few weeks. you have to wait until four weeks. so i think when governors lift restrictions on capacity, that is fine. it's letting the businesses decide how many people they should admit based on ventilation and other facilities. when they sense strong anti-masking language, i don't think that is helpful right now. if i were advising these governors, i'd advise against it the next four weeks. >> so those like in texas where they're saying get rid of the mask, you don't need it, you don't think that is a good strategy? >> not yet. we're about 4 to 6 weeks away from being an't that point. i don't think it's helpful to be sending strong anti-masking language right now. >> neil: what about the other openings that you're seeing throughout the country, including texas? they're back to prepandemic levels. >> that's right. you know, businesses rely on that state guidance and the cdc guidance to enforce policies that they have in their business, in their retail stores, grocery stores. so that is what businesses want. they rely on that guidance so they can enforce the policy locally. when somebody comes in that is not vaccinated or immune and say i don't have to wear a mask because the governor said i don't, that is not helpful right now. we're in a really good place and moving to a good place. some states are doing better than others. it's just jumping the gun a little bit. the good news is, certain states have now immunized a third of their adult population. so that's good news. ironically states with department of healths are doing better on their distribution. >> neil: that's interesting. speaking of the department of health and medical officials, we've gotten different advice including the cdc urging against travel, that was a big problem for the airline industry when they heard that. the back and forth on masks. we thought this would be a good opportunity to cite yourself not withstanding that look, advice has been over the last year all over the map. sometimes i can't blame americans for being confused. why don't you digest some of these examples of top authorities. over the last year since this started on what to do about the pandemic. take a look. >> there's no reason to be walking around with a mack. wearing a mask might make people feel better and might even block a droplet. but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. if you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, makes common sense that it likely would be more effective. that's the reason why you see people either double masking or doing a version of an n 95. >> hold the gathers to under 10 people. not just bars and restaurants but in homes. really limit interactions indoors to immediate households when we see this level of community spread. >> masks should be used in combination with other prevention measures to offer you and your community the most protection from covid-19. stay six feet apart from other people you don't live with, avoids crowds and wash hands often. fully vaccinated people can visit with other fully vaccinated people in small gatherings indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing. >> neil: you know, it's easy to go back and time and some of these are recent with the cdc director. but americans that don't have your background and you've been consistent on all of this from the beginning, but you can understand how they can be confused. you can understand how they're being told too be cautious about traveling. keep wearing the mask, maybe two masks when dr. fauci himself said at the beginning that masks weren't necessary. you can understand their anxiety. >> you know, it's not just about virus replication science, neil. it's about implementation science. what is feasible. what people are going to listen to and how straightforward the messaging is. when you put out overly complicated guidance, people are going to ignore it. look at the vaccine allocation guidance. it was late and it was so complicated, it left states and hospitals in a decision paralysis. people cut in the vaccine line, vaccines were thrown away. because it was too complicated. the same thing with these recent cdc guidelines and what you can do if you've been vaccinated. let me make it simple. wait a month after vaccination and live a normal life. the overly complicated restrictive policy of you can only do this under the certain circumstance that it's a person from one household and a small gathering indoors and private, you know what? 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>> well, it depends. is it paid for and does it have partnership money in it and what kind of infrastructure are we talking about? if it's a way to disguise a democratic wish list on green energy and not build roads and bridges and expand broad band, it won't help much. my concern goes beyond that. a lot of concerns today. my concern is it's going to include tax increases. when you look at this covid-19 package, it's not targeted. it's $1.9 trillion. we could have done it for less than half that and still had the same effect on covid-19. more than half of this money isn't even spend during this calendar year. within it are hidden tax increases. three or four tax increases. this time not significant numbers in terms of the amount that they generate but the wrong idea to stimulate the economy you should not be raising taxes. my concern is the next stimulus package will include infrastructure plus increases. >> neil: some have thought a infrastructure package would be the opportunity to get corporate taxes back up to 28%. this could go beyond that. do you know beyond that what it means? >> everything. they're talking about raising capital gains taxes and the business tax, which has finally been competitive around the world and saw investment in the united states that wouldn't have occurred. raising people's wages -- remember, a year ago, we were in a situation that our economy was growing precovid. we had 19 straight months in february of last year of wage growth of over 3%. it was working. the combination of all of these things, what we did in an interview, small business side, the big companies, the public traded corporations are doing better. america was getting more investment and losing investment which was happening before that. all of that is up in the air now. my concern is that when i talked to my colleagues on this side of the aisle, there's a wish list of things they'd like to get done as part of a infrastructure package that might not be traditional infrastructure. their what i to do it is to raise taxes. that's my concern. i'm discouraged with covid-19. that's one area that we have been totally nonpartisan five times in the last year. we've passed covid-19 bills with huge majorities over 90 votes each. so it was an area where there should be total bipartisanship or nonpartisanship and infrastructure used to be the same way. the notion we can get together there because republicans and democrats voted for infrastructure. it will help the economy if done right. my concern is they'll ignore the republicans and do it under reconciliation and 0 this projects that won't help the economy. >> neil: i know you've been concerned about deficits but republicans are hardly one to point the finger on red and more debt under president trump than under president obama just as president bush. so a lot of spending sprees. but you think republicans are looking at the critical pointing at the expense of all of this? >> well, neil, it's all relative, isn't it? you're right. republicans and democrats have been responsible for increasing the spending. it's always democrats wanting to spend more than republicans. always. i can give you numerous examples. the one would be every year is the inability and disinterest in looking at the mandatory side of the ledger where is where most of the spending occurs and what happened in the covid-19 bill. so much of this -- more than half of this spending won't occur this in year -- >> neil: do be fair to you, senator, you stood out as being a critic of that sort of thing. i admire you for that. but i wanted your take on what seems to be a battle among republicans, the president and donald trump and the cease and desist order to the republican national committee to quit using his name on behalf of candidates that he said are rinos. how do you feel about that? >> it's tough. people will use his name in their solicitations and i'm sure that many will. he very popular, i don't know that that is realistic. but look, as a party, we have to get back to the policy, the issues where the american people generally agree with us. this is where the republicans did well in 2020 except at the top. >> neil: but you're not on the same page, right? these battles could flare up. you and the president keep happening. and given the president and the senate leader, republican leader, you have to wonder whether mitch mcconnell and if they're in a separate universe and their backers are in a separate universe from him. i'm wondering, where is this going? are you worried about it? >> i have to -- with all due respect, i disagree with you that it's about policy. mitch mcconnell and president obama differed on policy. >> neil: senator, they don't talk to each other. they don't talk to each other. >> my point is it's not a policy debate. this is a personality issue. it's different by -- >> neil: it's averting -- you think it's hurting your party? >> it has the potential to hurt the party. it already is making it more divided. but let's get back to the policies. that's where we agree. that's our job as a party, to help organize the democracy around certain ideas. you know, you have organizers on the left and the right of our democracy. we're the ones that should be saying, okay, the deficit does matter. tax renorm is important to drive jobs and tax cuts hurt jobs. we're the ones that say energy independence is a good thing. >> neil: so the battle between the former president over whether the rnc can use his name and all and the rnc getting testy, they can be helpful? >> no, i don't think it is. neil, as i said, i don't know how you avoid using the president's name in a solicitation. i'm not one doing that. but i imagine many will. i'm not sure the lawsuits would be successful. you know, he was president. he did a lot of things that republicans felt strongly in favor of as did a lot of americans. the policies, the policy was well-received. we saw that again in 2020. think about it. 15 house seats. nobody thought we would get any seats in the house. the senate better than expected with three state houses turned republican. so a lot of people thought we had ten really tough seats on our side. they lost theirs -- >> neil: who do you blame for losing the senate? >> well, with regard to georgia -- >> neil: the president blames mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell points to the president. >> the problem was and turnout. look at the data out of that election out the five congressional districts that had the worst turnout, four were strong trump districts. they didn't see the need to vote. that blame can be shared. that's the issue in a special election, it's all about turnout. we didn't do it. despite the fact in the general election, one of those candidates won by two points. so we had better turnout then. we've seen the results, a democratic majority in the house, the white house, a democrat in charge and democrat majority here, a 50/50 and the tie vote and changing the way our country operates when you look at this covid-19 bill. it's an unfortunate example of that. >> neil: all right. senator rob portman. always a >> thank you. >> neil: >> neil: he won't be running for running a lot. congressman tim ryan after this. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ priceline works with top hotels, to save you up to 60%. these are all great. and when you get a big deal... you feel like a big deal. ♪♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal. i had saved up some money and then found the home of my dreams. but my home of my dreams needed some work sofi was the first lender that even offered a personal loan. i didn't even know that was an option. the personal loan let us renovate our single family house into a multi-unit home. and i get to live in this beautiful house with this beautiful kitchen and it's all thanks to sofi. >> neil: all right. add texas to the list of states right now vastly expanding the list of possible citizens that could get the covid vaccines that are becoming available reducing the age 50 and older right now. we're on top of that. at record low rates to save money every month plus you could get an average of $50,000 cash. that's money for security today and money for retirement tomorrow. refiplus, it's only for veterans and it's only from newday usa. here you go, let me help you. hi mr. charles, we made you dinner. ahh, thank you! ready to eat? yes i am! >> our friends on the other side, running around with their hair on fire. heaven forbid that will help the workers in the united states of america. we tilt the balance that has been going in the wrong direction for 50 years. we talk about pension, you complain. we talk about giving them the right to organize, you complain. if we're passing a tax cut here, you'd be all getting in line to vote yes for it. know stop talking about dr. suess and start working with us on behalf of the american workers. >> neil: maybe it's evidence of the divisiveness on capitol hill. not a single republican voting for the bill. only one democrat voted against it. congressman tim ryan from ohio with us right now. congressman, it's not a shock that this went down the way it went down, right? it's not as if republicans weren't trying to get some of their views in on the things that didn't have to do with covid. half in this package has nothing to do with covid and certainly nothing to do right now. why were you portraying them as just only interested in tax cuts and not in scaling down and focusing the size of this package? >> well, neil, i think they're completely out of touch with the way the american people are. well over 70% of the american people support this package. when you look at the internals on republican voters -- >> neil: they didn't know what was in it, right? they didn't know half wasn't happening this year. they didn't know about the features that had nothing to do with covid, right? >> they know that they need help. they know they need help and this bill is intended to help them and will help them. that's why they're supportive of it. they're not worried about the details. they know they need help. if they're unemployed -- >> neil: they're paying for the details, congressman. they're paying for the details. some are getting it. you're right, a lot of these benefits and stimulus for some of these people affected and extensions are real and needed. but i think what the republicans are saying and i think that others were advocating is this focused enough or did we actually waste a lot of money here or put it back in the hopes that trying to sell it under the covid umbrella when a lot of that money is delayed and it's not now and a lot of that money doesn't address covid at all. >> it addresses the economic problems that have stemmed from covid. the check collapse. look, the republicans can wrap themselves up in a million different ways and get wrapped around the axle around this. the bottom line is the american people support this. vast majority of republicans support this. they haven't even seen the benefits of it yet. wait until their unemployment gets extended -- >> neil: we haven't seen the benefits of a trillion dollars of unspent money from prior stimulus, right? >> neil, you can go on and on all you want. i'm a congressman in northeast 0 ohio that has been devastated by this. i can not have enough staff in my office to handle the facilitating unemployment claims. seeing if people can get their $1,400 checks. some people have not gotten their past checks. people are struggling and they want help and they want a federal government that acts on their behalf. not a federal government that you guys want to wrap up and shrink and put in a bathtub and drown it. the bottom line is the american people need -- >> neil: i don't know what you mean by "you guys." i'm not carrying any laundry here. i'm just trying to ask questions harkening back to the days that you challenged nancy pelosi to be a house leader and in those days you were moderate when it came to liberals going to far, spending too much, not doing the math on this stuff. you seem to have changed a lot from those days. >> well, i'll tell you this, neil, when times change, when you have a pandemic and a economic blast, you shouldn't keep the same mindset that you had when things were going a little better. look, here's the bottom line. the middle class has been destroyed in this country over the last 30 or 40 years. okay? if the minimum wage was tagged for inflation starting in 1968, it would be at $22 an hour. you wonder why everybody in this country, the vast majority of people are so pissed off? it's because they can't survive economically. now here we are in the middle of a pandemic, in the middle of a economic collapse and you have a political party that couldn't -- not one of them could cast a vote for a rescue package for the american people -- >> neil: you think we're in a collapse right now? >> they want to see the party of workers? are you kidding me? like that is insane. these people -- >> neil: you think we're in a collapse right now? do you think we're so badly off right now that this is still a economic collapse? you really see it that way? >> no question. right? it's a recession when your neighbor loses their job and it's a depression when you lose yours. the old harry truman adage. the reality is there's ten million plus that still can't find a job. there's waitresses and waiters working the same amount of time that they worked prepandemic and they're making half the wage. what do you call that? that is a problem. the republicans are positioning themselves on the other side of helping these working class people that haven't done anything wrong. we're trying to support them so that they can pay their rent, pay their mortgage, make their car payment. not absolutely destroy their credit, which will take a working class family ten years to climb out of. we want them positioned well when they get the vaccine. that's what the biden administration is doing, that's what this package does -- >> neil: all right. let me ask you, congressman. your name has come up as a possible candidate to run for the seat that rob portman will be leaving. are you interested in that? are you interesting in running for the united states senate? >> yes, i am. i am interested it in. we're looking closely. i think we need strong leadership on behalf of these middle class people. clearly there's a lot of people in this country that don't think there's a problem, don't think they struggle, don't think their needs are real. someone who grew up outside of youngstown, i understand that. we need a strong voice in the senate that can make these decisive decisions that can stick up for people like that. you know, in the covid bill, neil, we had a pension reform in there that saved millions of people their pension. teamsters that worked hard, played by the rules, drove trucks. it took us years to get that, the bush lewis act to some legislative vehicle that could pass. and now we rescued millions of families. that is what we need in the united states senate and that's why i'm interesting in looking closely at it. you need that strong leadership on behalf of the forgotten people. i've done that my whole career and we're very interested in that. >> neil: keep us posted. thanks very much. tim ryan congressman. we have more coming up after this. including latest news on the border that if it's not a crisis, it's escalating into a problem. the world's first fully autonomous vehicle is almost at the finish line what a ride! i invested in invesco qqq a fund that invests in the innovators of the nasdaq-100 like you become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq so you want to make the best burger ever? 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peter doocy has more. >> we learned that the president finally got a briefing from the white house officials that he sent to the border to take a look over the weekend. we're getting a sense from the administration's southern border coordinator that why they think the surge is happening. >> you think it's a coincidence that as soon as trump and his immigration policy were on the way out and now biden is on his way in that this surge started? >> first of all, what is important, we've seen surges before. surges tend to respond to hope. there was a significant hope for a more humane policy after four years of pent up demand. >> that kind of talk that biden spoke about that would let people come to the u.s. are the reason expects that a historic number of migrants are coming in. three highway checkpoints are shut down to handle the influx elsewhere. experts say that will hamper their ability to stop human trafficking. >> actions speak louder than words. when you release thousands of people to the united states, some with covid and you don't want to detain them, they send a message to the world. >> it's been eight days since the president said anything about the border even briefly. and 50 days without a press conference. >> neil: not that you're counting. thanks, peter doocy at the white house. so we want the read on this. the former acting ice director saying this would happen and it has been happening. ron, what do you think? >> yeah, this was very predictable. when they rolled back the migrant protection protocols, when they tore up the agreements with the northern triangle, this is what you get. thousands of people coming across the border into the hands of border patrol agents every night. about 5,000 people are entering the country illegally. imagine the stress of the work force. the department is 18 years old and we ended catch and release three times. michael chertoff did it in 2006. again in 2014 with the obama administration. they put family detention centers up. we ended the urge there. and now in 2018 the trump administration ended it with the tools. the remain in mexico policy and the accords with the northern triangle. that stopped surges like this from happening. i see no end of this. it's a disaster and it's an emergency. that's why they called fema out to help them with it. >> neil: in the meantime, here, we have the migrant minors. another situation where we've seen just the crowd triple in a little more than a couple weeks and could escalate further. we're taking many of them and putting them in a military base in virginia. how do you think that process will go? >> it's going to be very expensive, very time consuming and very difficult for everybody that is involved. putting these shelters up, refitting a military base, is very expensive. but it needs to be done under the law. these kids have to be cared with a specific way. this is not new. this was to be expected. everybody is going to bring their child to the border now because we're letting them go. in the 2014 crisis, 96% of those children are still in the united states. just imagine what this will look like in ten years. yeah, they're put in the immigration system but many of them are still here. same is true for the surge in 2018. it's true for this surge as well. the laws need to be reformed. you know, i understand that this administration wanted to wind these policies down but could have done it with the shelter space in hand. now they're facing an emergency. the border patrol now is distracted from protecting the border and seizing drugs and finding smugglers to doing child care again. it's really unfortunate for those people of dhs and their families. this has to be a terrible time for them. >> neil: thanks very much. we'll continue to follow this story. taking a look under the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill. where the message to some governors is you can spend this on your people but you better not give it to your people. i'll explain after this. struggling to manage my type 2 diabetes was knocking me out of my zone, but lowering my a1c with once-weekly ozempic® helped me get back in it. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic® ♪ my zone? 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[ tires screech ] well, that came out of nowhere. try to give that back >> first and foremost i'm not going to break any rules and dollars, that is what i'm trying to say. joe just doesn't understand at all what he is written in. what he has written income he did so to be vindictive to me which is childish beyond belief, but it could very well, it could very well end up hurting west virginia and or other people in other states. neil, the bottom line, 31 of our states and the majority in the house and senate and a lot of the stuff that they could not accomplish in 2020, we now have an effort towards federalism and everything, it is just not good in my book. b6 governor, in the meantime, there is this reopening that is going on across the country. and texas, everything is open today. the mass mandate has dropped today. what do you think of that? >> i think in the state of west virginia if you step back and just look come i think we have led the nation and led the way on a state that is two-thirn the country. we led the way on nursing homes. we have led the way on vaccination spirit and we continue to lead the way. west virginia for never really closed. we made the essentials very, very broad but today, i really always listen to my medical experts. today, i can't stand this mask is much as you can't stand it, neil. but at the end of the day it's too early. it is too early for us to jump and believe one robin next spring. because it doesn't a lot of times and a snowstorm is really not good. so with that -- >> neil: he disagrees with that. you don't agree at all? >> you know i'm i'm not going to argue with governor abbott. i don't think it is applying time in west virginia and i don't think 30 matter ohmic days will matter. i don't want to see the repercussion of the winter storm whiplash, to tell you the truth. >> neil: so it sounds like in your view, he's making a mistake, at least with the mask thing. >> i think he's a great governor. my sister lives in the state of texas. i think he is a great governor and i salute all he is doing. in this situation come i think if we don't watch out, we can get into wanting to do things politically from a macho standpoint or whatever it may be. we just don't really need to rush right this moment. we are close. we are very, very close to being there and the medical team and the medical experts to make a right decision. >> neil: when you make the macho comment because i've heard you make that before, do you think he on the florida governor are trying to one up each other or that he's trying to one up the florida governor? i'm curious what you mean. >> well, neil, you know the scenario. you know what goes on in washington. and you know what politician -- i'm not a politician. i am not a politician. i'm a business guy that came here to serve. i don't want anything, nothing. i don't take a salary. i drive myself. nothing. politicians are to themselves and literally, it is who can get on the soap box the fastest. but that is not jim justice. and jim justice will tell like what he thinks it is in everything. i'm really proud of my state. i'm proud of governor abbott. i'm proud of what's going on in the state of florida. you know come at the same time, i will not be a politician. >> neil: got it, governor jim justice a pleasure having you, thank you. >> neil, always a pleasure. >> neil: same here, and texas governor, we hope to hear from either of both. ♪ ♪ >> juan: hello, everyone i'm juan williams along with greg gutfeld, jesse watters, judge jeanine. this is "the five." more royal drama and claims that cancel culture is going global. new reports say meghan markle complain to piers morgan's boss before he stormed up the set and quit. morgan's employer wanted him to apologize on the air after saying he didn't believe a singleor t