was almost a failure. could you imagine trajectory of history if it was? >> jonathan: interesting thing about history, history sometimes is actually a clear reflection of the men who sacrificed and actu actually went in there and through failure and through their sheer determination to push forward, they set the standard for the rest of history. again, going back to my experience in the seal teams, the udt were born from these experiences and born from failures and out of that, these incredible warriors were born from these individuals being drown and all these different incidents that happened. that was the thing about the united states military. when something went wrong, they learn from it and got better. you were talking about the mock