Big story of the corner, the war is on but the huge market selloff fear is not. Maybe its a fact that is columbus day in the bond market is largely close, although the markets are indeed open and arent crashing, they are off but not nearly off as much as some feared or history would suggest. Again at least not yet, that does not mean air eight sirens are not blasting and explosions are not going on throughout the gaza city. This is a worry after increasingly escalating to Benjamin Hall in london how fast it is escalating. Good morning we were at the phase right now in israel midway between the atrocities for the last two days were almost a thousand hamas terrorist came across and killed him a 700 civilians women, children, elderly. Now the fate is moving into the full israeli response they are firing rockets cost is really saying they destroyed 650 hamas targets inside gaza, where everyone is waiting for in the next day or two is an offensive a ground offensive against hamas inside gaza, 100,000 israeli troops are mobilized and ready to movein and many tanks as well. The hundred thousand reserves have been caught up so far, this is israel say no longer will they stand for hamas terrorism they will go in and wipe out however, many people hamas targets as they possibly can they also blockaded garza and they came out saying that they will be no electricity, no food, no fuel everything is closed many followed up saying we are fighting human animals and we will act accordingly. The next step is the one that is difficult because of the hostages that hamas is holding. Over 100 people, women, children, elderly and the hostages are believed to be held in the tunnels underneath gaza and any defense will put the lives at risk. Its a balancing act on how you can go in and remove the hamas targets while trying to get back some of the hostages. We heard qatar has offered to step in and negotiate to some degree. If you remember in 2071 is really soldier taken by hamas and he was exchanged for 1000 palestinian prisoners, now they have 100, hamas said they want every palestinian prisoner released in exchange for the hostages, that is unlikely to happen. Going into gaza will be difficult street to street for the battles constantly and hamas frankly has wanted israel to come in for a while they know it will be bloodied and israeli troops also die, for a while israel has held back and they responded by sending further rockets but now they said they have no alternative but to go with. What are the questions on a bigger scale whether iran was involved. Secretary blinken said there was no specific evidence that they were involved but we know iran supports hamas and gives them weapons, financing and training. The wall street journal had an article yesterday that have sources inside of hamas and hezbollah that told them that some of the leaders of the Islamic Revolutionary guard met with hamas in beirut on monday and iran gave the green light for the syntactical one. They had been working since august to devise the airland nc incursion, if that is confirmed and proof that iran was behind this and gave the green light we know they supply some of the weapons then this can be a wider regional war. Does this remain contained with israelis and were does escalating could that be some action against iran. We did talk about action against iran you talk about hezbollah in the north and there always an rockets flight in the north of israel but that has been contained to the less populated areas. A lot is happening right now waiting for the ground defensive and we expect that to start in the next couple of days. It will go on for weeks if not months. Neil the spread and the contagion could be a very big factor to keep an eye on. Benjamin hall on all of that. You are looking at explosives and gaza city this is a palestinian city if he think about it in the gaza strip the population of 1 million if you look around the gaza strip itself its densely populated region of the planet 2 million plus people, that is the target a lot of the israeli attack. There are reports of a separate invasion from the north, this is coming from lebanon, response from the south to attack these points thought to be hezbollah and theres no way to prove that that is a high concentration of where they are, separately we are learning all the Major Airlines has suspended flights into and out of israel, israel proper and now by extension, the region itself we dont have the exact breakdown but to get in and out of israel is proving to be increasingly difficult. Also were keeping track of hamas unleashing its own rocket garage on israel something that is fully capable of responding to these attacks. That is very latest, lets get the very latest from the u. S. Air force. General retired right now author of the bestseller. General what you make of what youre seeing as this battle escalates. I think were fully enmeshed in the second cold war. There is a lot going around whether the iranian supported hamas. In of course they supported hamas but the bigger challenge is not only the iranian supported hamas but the chinese are supporting the iranians and russians. You have to begin to think when is the next shoe going to drop the korean peninsula, taiwan, i think these things are accelerating you this is not an accident that this is happening. There is a lot of backandforth general 6 billion of the iranian money and we know Kevin Mccarthy stepped forward to say whatever it is unfreeze it were refreeze it i should say. And that we should be equally stern about alienating them across the globe and other should follow suit much as we did with russia into the invasion of ukraine, what do you think of the. I think that is right, the administration is coming off completely incredible when it has no intelligence to say whether or not the iranian supported hamas they had no intelligence saying this is going to happen at all. Clearly the intelligence failed in this case. We are not paying attention to the bigger macro picture. We have two worlds, bipolar world rising here and were looking at these in isolation. That handicaps us in terms of how we should go about restructuring our ability to deal with the macro Global Political issues. Neil general you are good at war strategy as well. Im trying to think of the strategy behind hamas doing Something Like this, knowing full well the response already getting as we speak. I hearken back to t yom kippur r do they wonder for the same effect of punishing the United States and western powers in supporting israel. Back then an oil embargo and we know what that brought gas lines of 1973 that went on and on and on. Im just wondering in your opinion of thinking and str strategy. Etiquettes about economic and Financial Support for hamas itself. It wants to show doing the bidding in the nation like iran and more resources, thats what they want. Its less about having the ability to effectuate a change they docketed destroy israel. But what they are going to do is raise attention in iran that were creating problems for notches israel but the United States think about it we have to support two wars and were already depleted of whats going on in ukraine. When you think further look back at who benefits from that. The chinese supporting iran and hamas, there is a benefit across the board. Hamas may be for them personally is just about the money but iran they have bigger fish to fry in the chinese have bigger ones. We have to look at all of these together theyre not happening in isolation. General, thank you very much in your incredible service, that goes without saying to this country. I want to introduce you to a guest who is in the israeli activist who landed hear from israel she knows a thing or two about bomb shelter, and enough to join us. Lizzie. Thank you so much for having me. I landed at 6 00 a. M. And came here i was on americas newsroom and im honored to shed some light on what is happening. Neil tell us, what happened. I was with my family, my three children and my husband and we were in israel for two weeks celebrating the jewish holiday of sukkot and on saturday morning which is a holiday we are observing we dont use our phones. The sirens and jerusalem started going off in the hotel loudspeaker told everyone to evacuate to the bomb shelter immediately. And because we did not have access to her funds we had no idea what was going on. We made our way to the bomb shelter i was with two of my children but i cannot find my husband and my other daughter, it was absolutely terrifying, my children were terrified i did not feel like i was able to comfort them in the way that i would want to because they did not know what was happening. Neil did you all go together to the United States. We all did we travel back together. Physically we are fine but there is a lot of trauma we feel like we left our hearts in israel. It was very bittersweet to leave. While we are fortunate to be safe, our brothers and sisters they are struggling. Neil i was trying to get a sense of why hamas would pull this off. Obviously the timing of the holiday as you indicated the day after the 50th anniversary of yom kippur war bases on historic dates, and the anniversary of the assassination of and there was a leader with a Peace Agreement with israel and that was not look too favorably. On all of the secures with a backdrop of maybe improving relations with saudi arabia. That seems off of the time being, what do you think of all the. I think there is a lot that we can speculate on, we are finding out as we are unpacking all of this. I think its really unfortunate and i dont think anyone saw this coming and israel as a whole certainly didnt its very sad and they said this was the worst day that the ever experienced in their entire l life. Neil its one thing to launch an attack with disappears by almost all accounts by particularly brutal and savage. This is a different attack than anything that we have seen, the raping of young women, the slaughtering, the hostages and the yom kippur war it was a surprise attack the people were all in the synagogue praying. Neil that was in the military in egypt, this looked like guerrilla warfare terrorism. Youve been there your devout, there are a lot of people thinking the jewish state will be embraced with improved business, the arab world, im wondering does it get you back to feeling, that is never going to happen, there are those in this neighborhood, you are surrounded by enemies in this really made that quite clear again. It certainly did antisemitism is the oldest form of hate in the world. It is continued to persecute us, cause us to suffer from generation to generation and i think this was a shock to all of us that some of the most gruesome images since the holocaust in just being there and trying to stay calm, comfort my children. Until we were 30 minutes on the flight, none of us could breathe a sigh of relief. We were not sure, we heard that they were firing rockets over the airport while we were on the runway. Neil they were saying you cant fly in and out. How old are your children. Of a tendril daughter, 9yearold daughter in a 3yearold son we were there to celebrate my sons third birthday the ceremonial haircut. We were hoping to have the most people experience. Im pretty open and honest with my children i am in israel activist and they know what i do. But this is a different state. Last night we were at dinner at her hotel. Sorry im emotional talking about this. We ordered pizza in my 9yearold daughter started crying and said i dont think we should be enjoying this pizza there are hostages that dont have any food. Its hard to shield children from these things when you are in it. Were used to dealing with us on a theoretical level but when we are living through it and seeing its impossible to shield them. Neil you have friends and you know those and you probably know many that are missing right now, hundreds could be missing and they could be used as pawns in this war. This easily spirals out of control. It certainly does. I think anytime that we try to negotiate with terrorist as we can look to the past it never turned out well. I heard you speaking earlier about the lodge chile who was held hostage and they exchanged prisoners for his release. This is an unprecedented situation. That is why hamas is saying now we might releases people, back and forth we go we have no way of knowing if they are alive or if what their situation is. All we can do is pray right now and really hope for a peaceful and to the situation, i do not know. Neil this was a well corr attak done in secret. We have the same thing and 9 11 and a lot of intelligences simply failed and this is israels version of that. Happy to get it again were intelligent fails. Too soon to start picking mpc that together, what do you think . I cannot wrap my brain around it, israel is supposed to be one of the most secure countries in the world, they have the highest technology. I do not understand it and what i heard about irans involvement maybe cyber technological attack that caused the systems to go down. I dont understand it. I cannot possibly fathom how this could happen in israel. Neil of all countries. Do you intend to go back . I wish i did not have to leave. My heart is absolutely there and i would go back into second. These are my people and i would do anything for them. I feel like i have more of a chance of helping from america im highly concerned about the pr war that is going to inevitably megabyte next. Ive been on the airplane and just landing and seeing the spin in the valleys the antiisrael rallies the propalestinian rallies. Anyone who can celebrate the raping of innocent women in the kidnapping of innocent children of elderly is disgusting and its absolutely sick. I do understand how these people can call themselves humanitarians claim that their fighting for human rights. Israel did absolutely nothing to deserve something so gruesome. Its appalling and anyone who is not outraged by this needs to check the moral compass. Neil your incredible patriot and it seems a phenomenal mom i wish the best for you and your family. Thank you so much for having me. We will have more after this. Explore endless design possibilities. To find your personal style. Endless hardie® siding colors. Textures and styles. Its possible. With james hardie™. 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Maybe i misheard him painting of her return to the speakership, what you learning. Afternoon Kevin Mccarthy is not officially seeking the speakership right now and he said that is up to the gop colleagues to decide they had not spoken about the middle east had there not been interest in returning he talked about the need to help israel. We need to resupply israel that they have no doubt that they will ever be overwhelmed. Mccarthy irradiated that the house cannot acted less has a speaker he led a delegation to israel at least once during every congress any also spoke to the knesset earlier this year mccarthy said whether or not if he returns to the speakership is up to his colleagues. One thing i would ask my congress 96 of the conquerors in one place and poor of the democrats playing politics. Could you imagine if we were sitting here and we listen further to not gates and mace that we were in a shutdown. If we asked our 37 minute limit in the military to the middle east to defend without being paid. Mccarthy called out by names, the two gop members who voted to remove him as speaker, nancy nay mace and matt gaetz they are concerned that the house is paralyzed. We need a speaker of the house, the second line to be the commanderinchief of the United States. When Speaker Mccarthy was ousted i dont think that the folks who led the alastair really consider the secondary effects of this. Lets be very committed to the fact that we need to speaker so we cannot only support countries like israel. House republicans meet tonight for the First Time Since mccarthy was ousted to decide what is next. They hope to vote internally on a candidate wednesday but they will not go to the floor until they have a candidate who can win. That could take days. Neil something is changed from when Kevin Mccarthy indicated that he was not interested in the speakership to now leaving it open to his fellow republicans to decide. And you like to remind the change in the mass, two more members there now who were not there last week. I am wondering how you think that all goes down. Kevin mccarthy gave an interesting answer when he was asked at the end of the press conference on tuesday the day he was ousted he said will you be leaving and he said i will have to think about that. On friday report that he was going to resign he made a point of talking to the press saying he was not resigning by saturday morning we had the middle east Harold Mcmillan the british Prime Minister talked about events being the most important factor in governance and politics. Here we had an event and guess who might want to return to the speakers speak to seek Kevin Mccarthy. Neil keep us posted. Senator roger wicker the republican of the beautiful state of mississippi. Always good to have you, this is a house matter but the notion of Kevin Mccarthy for his old job, what do you think of that. So much to say and so little time to say it we need a speaker and we need some civilities i wouldnt be surprised if that even has an appeal because democratic colleagues because we need someone in charge in both houses in the message should be that were to come together as americans and support one of her oldest and steadfast allies, israel. And to the extent that we could permit shutdowns and get back to regular order passing the appropriation bills, funding or military, that would argue for getting mccarthy back in office. Again it is not my vote but we need a speaker real quick and we need to show our american resolve and we will support israel and we will do that on a bipartisan basis. Neil as you accurately pointed out, this did change everything will happen on israel on saturday and now im wondering what you made of Kevin Mccarthys view of the unfrozen 6 billion and no weather it made it to hamas or not. We will refreeze it essentially, what did you think about. I think it is part of a larger narrative this administration and two administrations with the Obama Administration and a total misunderstanding of how dangerous iran was and let me say this iran has a decision to make at this point, they can settle things down in lebanon and keep their other client terrorist Group Hezbollah from expanding this war and i think our wise heads and iran say this is not would work out well for us. And if this expands to gaza and the lebanese border. To your original question, this is part and parcel of the unrealistic response in the Biden Administration and the danger and trusting iran to do anything for peace. Neil do you think modern arab nations were those more interested in moving forward and going back to grudges, all that is offered the time being in saudi arabia to reach out to israel and vice versa. Egypt already has essentially normalized relations with israel, do you fear all of that is in danger. I think it is something to be mindful of but ive been encouraged, egypt sent a signal that they tried to send some helpful entail. I dont know what to make of that. What i can discern from it, egypt is making this statement that is sympathetic to a piece with israel so i dont think saudi arabia wants to go back to the old days in the emirates are coming around, jordan has been steadfast for decades and decades. I think the entire weight of history and trajectory of history is going to be in favor and continue to normalize relationships. All of the people the arabs and israelis in the middle east can live in peace yet move together forward. We are not going to have peace in gaza for a while, i do expect israeli allies to make a real effort into clean out the hamas terrorist that actually brought this about and also we have some real questions about the capability not only is really failure but also to the extent that there may have been signals that we missed. That is a huge question, to me i think all in all we have to continue to normalization of people in the arab world that want to live in the modern times and advancer people rather than continue centuries on grudge. It is still early on we hope cooler heads prevail to your ad veil. Thank you very much. We stand with israel on a bipartisan basis. Thank you very much. We are separately learning that israel has been killing militants who crossed into the country from lebanon this is coming from the Israeli Defense sources, that would seem to imply hezbollah we dont know that hezbollah is strong and lebanon it would show this spreading and killing militants at a cross into the country but we do not know how many or how big of a deal this is outside of same this whole thing is a big deal. Hezbollah now getting together with hamas that opens up a whole new series of a fearsome scenario. We are on top of that even though the markets and generally like many of the markets in europe are holding their own through this, skittish but not giving up. All neil a backdrop of the war festering in the middle east, Robert F Kennedy junior a divisive response and announced as expected, he is going to be an independent candidate for president of the United States leading the Democratic Party, this is an iconic moment in the Democratic Party history of course. Since he comes from probably the most iconic names in the Democratic Party. His father was a former attorney general of the United States he ran for president himself he ran from 1968 before he was assassinated Robert F Kennedy junior going independent route of leaving the party with his uncle and father in family made famous. We will have more. In the meantime more on developments of a global nature, the ongoing work and how ray dahlia predicted on this very show. Asked me how its going to evolve. I think you figured out the answers you know what would happen but youre worried and here are some things that are going to change. I dont think anythings couching much. Here it is over the next year were going to have a great political conflict. Over the next year, two and three in my opinion we are going out of debt in Economic Issues that will play into that. Over the next one, two and three years we will have compex a geopolitical conflicts. He did not spell out but what he said there is a macro reality in the world that we just got to come to realize there is more instability occurring in more regions of the world that would normally be very hazardous, they would go up and now its going on in israel harkens back to yom kippur war back in 1973 slowly led to an oil embargo that deathly led to a global recession and who can forget the long gas lines. Phil flynn and mere child back then if he was even alive back then kind enough to join us now. The reason why we have a tepid response in the oil supplies have not been impacted. Its more about pricing and what could happen in the next 24 48 hours, how is israel going to respond to the report from the wall street journal that iran had an active role in orchestrating this attack on israel in the market right now from the Oil Transport is pricing in the appropriate additional risk and there could be a lot more depending on how this plays out. Iran is going to be the key if israel decides to lash out at iran and the Biden Administration decides to force sanctions on iran were going to have a Global Supply deficit and is not would be easy for the Strategic Petroleum reserve and hamstrung u. S. Production, there is a possibility of a price hike in the market that we have not seen now. Neil you hear of 1973 not 2023, our world is not so united its divided opec doesnt carry the owns that it once did even though its extremely influential as you reminded me. Back then given what we did to support israel after it was attacked by syrian egypt on yom kippur the holiest day of egypt. They punished us and acted in unison to much of the western world we know what followed from that. Can history repeat itself . I dont think in the same way. I believe opec learned a lesson because when they created the global recession they also created a movement i country to be more fuelefficient and to be honest decades for opec to get the demand back that was created by the embargo. At the same time i do thank opec is feeling it, they regain control on the Global Market and conspire with russia right now into fight friendly with whats going on. A lot of eyes on saudi arabia right now. Indeed if there is an attempt to restrain iranian oil, and the first persian gulf war raise production to bail us out, i dont think thats going to happen. If we get into that type of situation you better buckle up. It could be an explosive ride. Neil if iran is attacked or even there is a lot of people who are reading into what Kevin Mccarthy recommended the unfreezing of the 6 billion in assets whether iran got its hands on it, does not appear immediately but his offer was we will refreeze it and make sure they dont get the money and they dont get any more money, how do you think that all goes. Any proven ties to iran we have to go back to the Previous Administration saying we can deal with these guys. Theyve proven themselves not to be a reliable partner and if they plan this attack in the biggest date sponsor of terror in the last of initiation to put them in the box and keep the pressure and at the same time raise u. S. Oil production now, dont wait because if we dont do that now we see the impact that it can have on the globe. Neil thank you very much. We would go to the rabbi former Senior Advisor to the u. S. Ambassador to israel david friedman. So good to have you. I know you and a guest have moved to a bomb shelter in tel aviv this morning. How are things now. We have been in the bomb shelter for the last 12 hours it was early on Fox Friends First where the iron intercepted iraq that felted like it was over our head and actually shook and we have a Whatsapp Group with the whole family, we have four kids and a lot of nieces and nephews and parents and siblings and making sure everybody has access to a bomb shelter. One of the conversations you never want to have one of my kids wanted to play basketball in the park which is a leasable activity for 15yearold boy he has to be 90 seconds of a shelter he can get to and that is a terrifying conversation with anyone. Neil we heard that 300,000 readers have called up in israel and more could be called on, the nation is at a state of war, the defense minister has said we are now recognizing the obvious, we are fighting animals and we will act accordingly, this escalates as we speak, what do you make of it. I make of this israel coming out of the worst 48 hours certainly of my lifetime and if you take as an american since 9 11 i have not felt this confused and bewildered. But just like 913 or nine got its footing corrected reasserted as a superpower of the world israel will reassert as a superpower of the region and it will do that effectively and convincingly. The challenges on the street are empty as though it is yom kippur, i dont know a Single Family that does have a husband, uncle, child or multiple serving those who are aged out of serving have gone anyways this is the single largest call up in israels history and the determination to win is on the street if you are not serving you or helping families and having somebody including by deodorant or getting cell phone chargers, you name it everybody is pitching in in some way shape or form. Neil are you surprised that human rights says the gaza closure recommended by the Israeli Defense officials is essentially a call to commit a war crime and we cannot let that go by, what did you make of that. I make that fox news is too smart for human rights as a Natural Organization and any credibility on the world stage human rights is an antisomatic antiisrael waste of space. They exist in order to give cover to people who rate the murder, if you look at legal law experts in terms of war the fact israel consistently keeps electricity and water and other actions for gaza is going above and beyond. I dont know what your feed looks like but me watching workers being beheaded gleefully and grandmothers having live streamed on facebook so the grandchildren can watch them executed by hamas. I dont have the appropriate word that would be acceptable for rabbi or for life tv to kidnap toddlers, rape women he went to a concert in the concern how gaza is feeling at this moment, this is beyond insane lets be extremely clear, the greatest victims are the palestinian people, but they are not the victims of israel, israel will do what it must do and should do in order to protect the civilians and citizens and lets not forget americans thereto. Neil Human Rights Watch did not condemn any of the actions on the part of hamas. They probably rooted it on. I have nothing but revulsion for people who dont have moral clarity and attach themselves with the madeup title that sounds impressive but indeed its a way to go ahead and decide you are promoting somebody elses propaganda. Neil usually in the past with israel of terror and acts against it the israel maintain support globally for about a week and then it starts, youve done enough i dont know if its going to go that way but this is literally happening within 24, 48 hours and there will be others as you suspect, what do you think. I dont know if itll make it a week. I saw yesterday in new york city and today in chicago people chanting and cheering what are they chanting and cheering as they say free palestine they are chanting and sharing the pillaging, murdering and raping of civilians. This is not a dispute that is political this is a dispute that is geographical that is the promotion of the worst crimes that weve seen against the jewish people since the holocaust that is reprehensible. The advantage i hope the leadership in israel will say when you go that far youre so far out of the window would allow what do you say does not matter they do not need to be lectured by the chinese and human rights, they do not need to be lectured by the iranians on human rights israel is a moral democracy, we share values and itll make the correct decision. I hope they make the correct decision for the civilians in a given don with the european say. Neil be well, i hope your family stay safe. Thank you, sir. In the meantime Brian Brenberg coming up 11 minutes away. Chaos in israel after unprecedented and barbaric attack by hamas militants. How bad economics from the white house is fueling terrorism and emboldening our enemies. That is at the top of the hour. 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They are ready to reclaim their freedom, their independence. [cheering] that is why im here today to declare myself an independent candidate. He says his supporters in the crowd, i affirm talking to a number of them includes prochoice and prolife. It includes environmentalists and climate deniers. He says its important that we bring people together and its not possible for one side or the other the left or the right to have all of what they want and the answer is an independent candidacy someone who can listen to both sides. He used the example, six months ago he thought anybody who wanted to close the border was a xenophobia and races. He went to the board himself and changed his opinion. He said that as a presidency a Robert F Kennedy junior would bring. Neil very interesting. Just lock and all of that, bob cusack is with us. The quickest issue that comes up in light of this. From whom does he take votes away, there is adverbial argument that he cant run for president and new Party Members like Abraham Lincoln comes to mind can emerge just that but having said that, what do you think, the argument by challenging the president and votes for the president. As jeff pointed out he rips both parties hit under this president and predecessors. He does and there are a lot of democrats and republicans who are not find of the likely nominees meeting find it on joe biden and trump. This could be a protest vote for both sides, the last hour the Republican National committee put out a press release going after kennedy reminded him of his past dance that he is a liberal and voted for joe biden in 2020. Theyre a little concerned. Rfk junior can raise money but is would have to get on the ballot and thats never easy. Neil he did not take the option of picking up any one of the established third independent parties. Hes going this route and starting from scratch. That is right, thats when youre doing that this late in the game that can be troubling. At the same time you cannot blame rfk junior for leaving the party and certainly not running the democratic primary. The National Committee is basically saying were not heavy debates, there is no primary schedule and the president is our nominee and that is what has frustrated rfk junior and certainly some of his supporters. Neil i dont know his views on continuing to support israel going forward. I know his views and questioning how much longer we can support ukraine. He might be an eclectic cat and ticket to get into canada candidate in that regard in the war that is mushrooming across israel and beyond how that plays into any of this. Is going to have to weigh in i call president ial candidates will. He is a wildcard he had a unique policy stance. But also the uniqueness has attracted some decent poll numbers. I did not think he would get the support that hes been getting but without a doubt there will be a lot of thirdparty candidates, no label will probably run a candidate. There will be more choices then normal. This is no normal president ial cycle. Neil what you are saying for me this can be an italian election where you have a lot of players, finally my people are going to teach us a lesson about how you make this really confusing. Let me get your take on how the race goes. You could argue a thirdparty candidacy to say nothing of others i could come up could make it difficult for one of the established candidates from the democrat or Republican Party to hit the 270 electoral votes that they would need. That is right whether it is trump when he won in 2016 or biden in 2020 they both won states by tens of thousands of votes. If your cornell west rfk junior in the game. You have no labels and others, there are a lot of votes that could be taken. Add them up tens of thousands of votes one way or another in that can shift who gets into the white house. Neil speaking of ralph nader in 2000 and no votes to deprive al gore we can play this game again and again. The argument is good to be disruptive but the two Major Party Candidates a jump ball to who it takes more from. Entity is a democrat obviously an icon name on the democratic side is not like the Kennedy Family is supporting him. But i think he takes more votes from biden than he does from trump but he will will take somm trump as well. Neil you think the biden folks regret not handling him better and it debate to taken seriously, often bad mouthing him and thats come back to bite him. You wonder if they went forward with the normal primary schedule and remember democrat to get a start in South Carolina that is where biden turned his 2020 campaign around. Clearly i think democrats thought he could be a pain in her neck for a while until the spring or summer and then he will be gone. Hell be around all next year. Sort of like me stayed at a party and grabbing the paper view in reading the guests. Wild stuff. It is on. Bob cusack. I would leave you with the dow down 40 points. More is building in the middle east. So far a limited impact on markets so far. Brian brenberg is now. Brian hello i am Brian Brenberg. Jackie im jackie deangelis. I am lydia hu in for taylor riggs. Welcome to the big mone