Our territories. But we often hear calls from the west about the need to sit down at the negotiating table with the russians. And what does this mean . The west is getting tired of the war in ukraine, we need to find out what is included in the concept of protecting europe , they support you much more than others zelenskiy to negotiate with the russians i am not saying, but it is important that it is growing even in the usa, and they are criticizing for giving to ukraine , do not forget that next year we have president ial elections, all republicans who will run against President Biden will actively criticize the leader of the republicans, now donald trump is delicious, they support financial and military aid to ukraine much less than the president would. That is, you touched on a question that also worries me, so what should be done . We need more weapons, better weapons, and as soon as possible. The fastest way to end this war i would say the same about sanctions more sanctions stronger sanctions and as soon as possible this is the way to win this is how you can speed up the process of ending the war guarantees a protracted war when i hear lets do more now to speed up the end of putins barbaric invasion of ukraine thank you very much sir ambassador for finding time for us thank you for the answers to my questions it was Michael Mcfall director of the freemanspoel institute for International Relations at Stanford University the Us Ambassador to russia in 201114 they spoke about a lot of things, but mostly about russia, about our victory over the aggressor and how they help us bring this victory closer. This was an exclusive interview on espressovat yuriy fizer. See you there are 20 discounts on kanefron in podorozhnyk pharmacies. Save money during sports. The body loses water and electrolytes as a sports doctor. I recommend reo. I became dehydrated. 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As a connoisseur of history, it is clear why everything is going on that in the 13th year they give for me at all well, i think nothing happened, well, in general, as a child, i was attentive and since 90, 91 ukraine became independent. I see very clearly that Russian Television about ukraine speaks either something bad or nothing, and studying history it just all came together, the same island of tuzla, then do you remember it was already going on then, before that, the reaction was just punched in us on on on thats all it went on and then i got into the patriotic youth organizations, the youth nationalist congress, if we take this as the beginning of the volunteer movement and the maidan, people who passed the Patriotic Organization only when the organizations plast alliance mmk kryzub, well, even well, there are a lot of such organizations there, sokil, there are cranes, that is, this after all, there were and were not random people, the leaders of the maidans were a few hundred, they were not random, nor were there random people at the beginning of the voluntary movement, it seemed to everyone that way, well, these people had already lived and breathed ukraine for dozens of years, it was a beautiful romantic time, we knew that we are fighting for a european country and , in principle, i am not ashamed of everyone on the maidan. On february 20, i became a centurion of the 35th volyn sich hundred. The centurion inscribed itself in history with a heroic deed and after february 20, after the shooting on the maidan well everything fell into place, everything became obvious, the annexation of crimea began, and for me as a historian, as a person who understood what was happening, everything fell into place and the enemy was obvious , only weapons could stop them, we then began to demand from the leadership there a new leadership of the maidan and ukraine, what to do a volunteer battalion and we will go to defend crimea, well, but the size, the statist approach, it is not like that, they took us to the Training Center in petrivtsi, and at the base of the internal troops , they recreated the National Guard, restored the National Guard, because the previous the National Guard, which was disbanded, and well, kuchma canceled it. She was very popular among the people, she was proukrainian , she was in a very clear position. It was prestigious to serve in the National Guard. We understood then that sooner or later, well , they would be for the people, not for his regime, and he destroyed it little by little , making the internal troops obedient. To defend ukraine, thats exactly what came out, it turned out that there were 5,000 bayonets for all of ukraine, and it was mainly the internal troops who pushed the shutter and said that we were ready, and it was, well, firstly, they were not disintegrated like the armed forces, and secondly, well, they felt, i dont know is it correct or the voice of blood or just the eyes opened apparently and on the basis of internal whiskey on the basis of our volunteer battalion from hundreds of hundreds selfdefense maidan created our first reserve reserve battalion recreated the National Guard and so we became the first volunteer battalion of the National Guard restored that prestigious restoration of the National Guard, you served under the leadership of kulchytsky, can you tell me what it was like . What kind of officer is that . Well, if you are talking about kulchytsky, then well, we were already here during the confrontation on the maidan, we already knew then what was generals who are looking for a compromise, he was not afraid to come directly to us in the top and with us, well, that is to conduct a dialogue. We knew that his grandfather was like a centurion in the patient, which commanded respect and he could come directly to us to talk that i, too, am for ukraine, just like that you can, im a state employee what a person, and you want to break them roughly, but we say that we too have no choice because you dont give us one. Well, the dialogue went on. That is, we already knew about the existence of confrontation between the maidan activists and the internal troops, it was quite serious , there was blood between us, but well, i am a nationalist and for me, ukraine above all, that is, ambition is everything , well, the understanding of the state is the most important thing, and the people, when we came, we saw the internal troops at the base of petrovtsi, the internal troops are written on the backs , well, the militia. You dont need to give us weapons and were going to crimea and were all shocked, well, we were so shocked, but klyuchevskyi came out quietly, and we say , well, guys, well, im just as ready to fight with weapons in my hands for ukraine and im ready to go with my mother. Well, im a general im a professional. I have a level. And you will let me go. I just need you to put your Heads Together in the first fight. Well, its not , its not for me, its not for me, its not for me. I heard from him the moment such well, in principle well, there were some who boiled there who turned around and left but ukraine above all she was in the soul, the majority stayed and we believed him he said i will study with you personally and i will go with you personally which was in principle he fulfilled he quickly gained authority and all the misunderstandings between the maidan residents were there, even if it came to a fight, the two of them were there and they would pull everything, that is, he was cool. Maybe he was, and you know, when the blockade of the slavs began, he was like a military general, he went around the posts from the roadblock to the roadblocks had to be shot through, the road had to be flown by helicopters well, fly there that is, it was brave and we then saw such care, you know and when he well, when he died we were so angry once the eyes of god came out, the enemy leaves for us for tea tea for a dream dreams for you went forward freely and you left, be happy and you left so as not to return the red bayonet bloody road, there are graves in the cities when the fullscale invasion began where were you dangerous, take care of us the heart was bleeding when there was a siege of kyiv well, but ukraine is she great ukraine is one, we had to go with a raisin, sit near popasna and hold the defense there, one volunteer came up to me. We were there crossing the river of schools of refugees , they are transported there so quietly, and some volunteers from kyiv accepted him. No, we are removing the ukrainians, we will also be here raisin popasno, he is here in sviatohirsk well tatyanut he is this sahara, many believed that raisin is such an impregnable fortress of the invaders in the Kharkiv Region that they still have them from there and for nothing knocked out. So you fought in a push, can you tell how difficult it was there or vice versa . It was all an illusion, a myth, but it also says that the beginning of the war was , well , standard. Where they are successful. They take a quantitative, well, tens of times quantitative advantage, and until we were under a raisin, well, until the middle to the end of march, we only have aviation , well, with 500 kg, 200 kg of bombs, just uh, well, it came and we were bombed, and it destroyed everything there for example, i see a part of the village of yatskivka, just like the poorer part of the village of yaska, a plane flew in, dropping 3,500 kg of bombs and seven 200 kg pieces of chickens in the cabin, then we caught them by the legs one soldier says, give me the icons, we searched him, give me the icon, well stop you need the icons well, i say, you will destroy the church, you will destroy the village, well, i leveled it completely, what icons are there , what else do you have in your head . At the beginning at the end of march, at the beginning already up to 10 in april we already had a lot of czechoslovak corpses there, they beat weakly there for 1. 5 km, but we drove the planes six kilometers up and there are already on sviatohirsk beech trees began to shoot them at a high altitude, because at a high altitude, and we lifted them all up with these pipes we never hit them, but we drove them up, and the buks started and in the afternoon 23 planes, two or three planes, well, it started to fall and we caught them, they ran here along the oskol reservoir there, after a day they caught these pilots, then well, maybe it just so happened that we are still in the same rock im the only one left we took the jump, we stayed in a bag in the cauldron there, my commander, the crow, just did a miracle that we were trapped there , we got out. Well, the raven is a cool commander, well, the matchmaker is his assistant there, that is, we have clearly left and have already reached the line of cold houses sosnovy yarova here for a month, well, they were repelling infantry attacks there , they were groping there, flogging constantly, well , the advantage there is serious there, its disturbing. And this well, this is probably left over from the first world war. On june 1, they made a massive offensive, well, we are there at the parking lot of sosnovy and yarova , she just fell under a barrage of fire, well , from five to six points at the same time from five in the morning to five in the evening, continuously artillery such and such a scarecrow here in every house there in every house such and such crap my both are the second decommunized and the third decommunized all decommunization was successful so they and their place in history were forced to retreat well the 81st brigade and blew up the bridge and we have already taken it by the nuts and leaving here i held by the way, i was thinking that well, if there will be a fullscale one, they will be transported somewhere because there are always helicopters from up there. We had enough people, they flew in there, landed the landing party, we then ran and chased them there, and there was always cooperation between this monastery and the wall, as intelligence worked against us, this is clear its, well, who wouldnt tell me what there is, its an antiukrainian structure , they set people up against us, its terrible , i meet a family, and you can eat, they cook, and they say , well, we have a car, we have it there in the dnipro, somewhere there, the family can leave, im cool, leave when you shoot us at the roadblock and i say that they are i dont understand at first i thought it was a joke and then you see that they are serious and they are sitting here somewhere there they are in the catacombs they are fed with this food so that the National Guard will kill you, it wouldnt be easy if you are from here i cant stand it anymore, im pulling out the documents , were showing what im saying. Im the captain of the National Guard, they have such a call sign, this hole is a pit, i say, ill give you the passwords, just take the children, it ll just pop out through the serpentine, the serpentine mink, we constantly slipped through jump out through the pantin and you will no longer be met by a single checkpoint, a checkpoint like in bzs and pereslavyansk and if you say me there , you will say the password everything well, i know how much there is , dont even ask if they will be traveling with children, who , well, understand that and they jumped out this family on my second day well, there i was on the field of miracles on the second day i have 87 goes that little commander has permission to leave so that he will not be shot and this is not a joke you understand it wouldnt be so funny if i didnt want to cry and this well its true i. E. What is there inside, what is the antiukrainian atmosphere there, and so on history, i can tell a lot about this place myself. How do you feel about the fact that the moscow patriarchate is still sitting here . And here , 100 m from this lavra , there is a monument to this dnr. With this, this is artem, this uh, hes not even artem, his name isnt even that , he was engaged in experitorial examination, he went to wealthy villagers there between bakhmut and popasna and stupidly engaged in combing here, his base was because of that, he was looted here, he is the organizer of the holodomor in the 21st22nd year it is one of the organizers of the holodomors of the 21st and 22nd years under the guise of a red band, and when he was caught by haidamak bakhmut and found himself there and lost him there because he was engaged in agrorunning, he organized the holodomor and having such a great man in such a sacred city this is a mother above herself a piece of victory over us all the time to brag. It is wrong, you know that the war started from this monastery here, and on april 13, 2014 , 39 disguised green men came here with a head like their arrow bitterly, nelya stepa came here, the chief of the police, the head of the sbu, the whole elite betrayed the treasonous currency , they made a raid, they took off their coats, from somewhere green , all their uniforms, weapons. And from here on the 14th they left to announce the dpr, they went there, because everything was paid for in slovyansk the war left here, you understand, everything has personal protection, it consisted of the spiritual sons of the anarchs and the novels of the svyatogorsk lavra, completely to the last person, it was not very big , but it was not. Novitiate of sviatohorsk , i know that our soldiers settled down very well on these mountains and you are very kind below you rashists who deployed their combat equipment all over the world, you understand. Here, when we moved to the other side, we didnt have such a thing as permanent changeovers well, i thought that, in principle, they would storm. Well, i, well, how am i, a soldier of the defense line . Well, i dont know. More than that. Maybe they let me go on vacation for a while. I think that there will be an assault. We are here. I already thought so. Where can you get so entrenched to leave well somehow after all, well, understanding that there will be another shaft of fire, but it didnt come. I didnt know that the hymers had already appeared, that three axes had appeared, we didnt know it. I was sitting here on the mountain somehow, it started to be strange. Well, i think you already knew what three axes were. Three axes she is there bz there yy it went and so well there they shot at the american cannon three times in a day there everything and then yy and the day goes on nonstop we are like this it is so incomprehensible but it will continue and how about us already on the new already there you say that kharkiv drove there and when they drove there only kupyansk well, the order has already come to us to prepare for an assault, and we are in the same place, it is not demos demos rafting means they sent ivantsov a string they pulled a string there with a steamer they made me, well, as there was no such a strong fight, er, i already had to fight well, they became the second way that is, there was a cleanup, you know, in general, there is a war, the death of a soldier is there, there is cowardice there. Fear, er, when you get out of it for a long time, you just understand that fear just stirs things up and the war itself chooses for me there, so da vinci died there. He comes out of the water from which of the Strongest Special operations . The fire of ivodu passes and kills. Accidental arrival, that is, i know such people, gifted people, war , she knew everything. She breathed, she knew where to stop, bang , until it goes again. That they will kick you in the leg or put you alive or put you in for victory and the conclusion is clearly one well we do not belong to ourselves and we do not lie in our future therefore it is in gods hands and we are simply an unnecessary fear because of the fact that you are simply fulfilling his job and he will choose us himself, congratulations, friends, this is a World View Program on the espresso tv channel. My name is vasyl zima and for the next 45 minutes, we will talk about another russia , who are good russians working for, with examples , of course, with comments from my distinguished guests. I will immediately introduce the guests. Well, then i want to make such an introduction, the introduction by quoting hetman hetman skoropadsky who characterized Pavel Skoropadsky who characterized the russians who fled from st. Petersburg to kyiv in 191718 are with us today will discuss this topic volodymyr tsibulko, political expert, peoples deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, poet, writer, volodymyr, i congratulate you and dmytro kapranov, writer, publisher , publicist, public figure, youtuber, mr. Dmytro, i congratulate you, i will start with well, so briefly, i will briefly quote Pavel Skoropadsky, who described the four stages of russians who are pass in ukraine, having escaped from the then revolutionary st. Petersburg, which was engulfed in civil war, repressions and many other indirect things, to the calmer kyiv, to which the bolsheviks were still they didnt get to him, let me remind you they got to him as late as 18th year, then they didnt get to him and here he writes that the russians are russian liberals who came to kyiv they immediately felt a state of euphoria of happiness that they saved their lives that they arrived at a safe place they liked everything about kyiv streets of kyiv, restaurants of kyiv and bell ringers, and thats all. Everything about them was wonderful. Singing language , nightingale borscht, dumplings, vodka, and all that was very good. The second stage of this stay of russians in ukraine. That they have left, and there is a certain dissatisfaction that they do not have the usual benefits of life for them, and here it begins cautiously. And over time , the criticism of the country is becoming more and more frank, as a refugee, which one were you praising just yesterday, Pavlo Skoropadskyi says that bad cobblestones and carters started here immediately, but the phase is not limited to this ; after a while, the final fourth phase for the driver comes, political and a good russian expresses his desire to create a good russia in ukraine for himself and for himself, and there is nothing wrong with everything as long as he is trying to do it at home in russia, because he escaped from there, but he is trying to do it where he is now, and his usual imperial way is reborn in him, he denies the separateness and originality of neighboring states and peoples and turns into an ordinary russian from a good siyana, this is an introduction from a person who saw russians in kyiv in the 17th year, Pavel Skoropadsky hetman, and now we will talk about how good russians behave now, who do they work for and is it really worth it to contact them in some way, mr. Volodymyr, lets start with you in general, the concept of a good russian does it exist or not well, the Ukrainian Military says that a good russian is the one that exists in the land but really, no matter how Many Russians move through the territory of ukraine, he is all these phases are described by pal skoropadsky , and not only that, even the russian oligarchy with the election of zelensky, he has already begun to build such a russian ukraine in us , remember the history of how they were, so to speak , indoctrinated through this new concept commemoration of the babin yar, as here a whole bunch of oligarchs immediately got out and such a director zhenovskyi and they began to reformat babin yar as a bridgehead for the occupation of ukraine and the construction of a little bit of another ukraine, russian ukraine. When, especially when the russian oligarchs saw that they had completely swallowed russia, they had a friendly desire not to quarrel with the chekists and earn a lot of money on the territory of russia, but at the same time to build such a russia in ukraine mother, to put it mildly, and unfortunately, unfortunately, they still havent given up on these games, unfortunately , vlada i today resort to such resuscitation