Strip. To out of were all skiing is relative, investigate what happened to urgently because clearly there are questions that need to build also on the day concerns over an escalation of violence in the middle east. I suspected that is right in the attack on a rainy and come to the building in damascus, kill several of the senior generals in rounds revolution. We got, as we are alarmed by the alleged ease, early strike allman year, any and diplomatic building in the syrian capital into my schools and to target think of the co select actually, which is diploma at the facility. And our position is that in these highly tens original situation, it is really of an utmost importance to show restraint. Welcome to the day, well after the condemnation and calls from around the world demanding answers, theres maybe 5 minutes that i Benjamin Netanyahu has admitted to on, unintentional is right. And the strike a killing 78. 00, walk us, the food charge, the will, central kitchen and as a one of his convoys was, hey, its after leave know warehouse in central gaza. Your organization has now suspended operations in the territory site for says that means ships carrying more than 200 tons of ice and are turning back without completing the deliveries. Is us secretary of state antony blinking the victims of yesterday strike joint a Record Number 2 monitoring workers whove been killed in this particular conflict. These people are heroes. They run into the fire, not away from it. They show the best of what humanity has to offer when theyre going really good stuff. They have to be protected. Well theres well says it is investigating the incident as it continues. Its 4 kinds, tomas, in response, the october 7 to attacks another day and gaza. Another tragedy, 7 members of the food id shabbots the wealth central kitchen were killed often is really asked kit tonight, conroy footage, taken off to the attack, shows to bent out of the vehicles featuring then g as level go as well as a saw can vehicle in a statement published online . Well, central kitchen, c, e o, evan go said she was hot, but can adding that using food as a weapon of war was unforgivable. The n g o sized the vehicles are traveling through the d conflicted zone and had coordinate to the movements beforehand with the facilities among those killed was 44 year olds. They me, frank, come from meld and so you know, on the left to its a food tent in gaza last month, australia is Prime Minister. And so now been easy described to us as tragic and reiterated his goal for sustainable ceasefire montalban to call it. This is someone who was volunteering this is to provide, i threw this charity for people who are suffering a tremendous differ vice in gaza. And this is just completely unacceptable. We want full accountability for these because this is a tragedy that should never have a good, as well as Prime Minister said is well, was responsible. Thats honorable norma. Unfortunately, a tragic incident happened in the last 24 hours in the gaza strip and assume it happens in wall. So we are fully looking into it for contacting governments and we will do everything. So these incident wont happen again because theres the notion issue. Well, central kitchen has announced its posing itself directions in the region until further notice will do that to my is Communications Director at only uh, the new ones released from websites as a full palestinian refugees. Welcome to dw. So now the World Kitchen at wells central kitchen has that suspended its a deliveries to gaza. And what is facts does is that likely to have on the ground . So let me start by saying how they were states as we all are on drop out at this, this news. This is a huge bill to the humanitarian community and it comes on the subject critically time us, we work all together inside calls out to efforts simon. Where the clock is ticking very, very fast, especially in, in, in northern garza. Okay. And israel has just looking at the, the why the a picture of israel has bought your agency from delivering a to the north of gaza. Other id groups as se, sending a convoys north is difficult because of restrictions placed on them by the idea. So what a is getting through to gauze as noise. So right, thats the question i think is very, very easy that getting to the north or if anything, a tool and youre absolutely right. It is really for thieves have band around which is the largest, the humanitarian organization in the gaza strip from getting to the north and delivering much needed food and nutrition supplies including for children and we call them that is really all. Busy things, especially in light of the tragedy from last night to reverse this decision and allow under a once again to be able to fulfill its duties and deliver much need to to minute terry. In the systems including food to people who arent hungry in northern gospel. As of the fact that the World Kitchen is now a no longer operating, that must have a Significant Impact on the ground. Or what goes on and people really need right now is more humanitarian. 8 not less human to turn in. And therefore there needs to be more humanitarian assistance that flows via the board meetings through the crossing points that connect the enclave with is read. That needs to be more access to northern gaza, including through honora, which is the largest humanitarian organization at the moment that ive been your secretary of state. The engineering thing today described israel steps to allow aid into gaza as in sufficient, given the mileage again, to national pressure. Is it possible that this tragedy could actually become a turning point . And perhaps even giving is ro, unexcused ease restrictions on, on a, into the territory. Right. Is there any needs to use those restrictions and lift or these limitations of that, of catholic and politically, equally to and now organizations like on route to deliver the much needed supplies. You see the clock is ticking very, very fast with simon. There is no time to waste on the route because see, and politics at this time for human action. And that can be done including via on route, which is the largest humanitarian organization in casa. Im what all the restrictions that but humanitarian that i off facing that you that asset to being posed by his royal what to begin with, there is a siege, which means bout there is a very routine, humanitarian or commercial supplies that come into the now the strip and when we do eventually get the fair we, its a number of trucks that is really or thirtys, allow, get taken because those supplies up north is also a challenge because of restrictions that. But its really all towards these have imposed on the movement of the convoys and then you have the risk and the security involved. You see on 3 different occasions as under uh, we have is really, or ortiz is really forces hates at our convoys either on the way off or back from northern jobs out weve come voice um and deliver it food to, to north and ask for tiffany. Thanks so much. Would you like us to get to, to my from under the weather and the secretary general, antonio guitar rash has condemned to monday suspects. Are this ray they asked strike on evading and come to the onyx building in damascus . These statements reiterated the diplomatic and comes to the premises, must be respected in accordance with International Law is the assistant secretary general for the middle east. Speaking of the un security council, i read the rates, the secretary general combination of the at tech, the invite liability of the one that you can go through the premises and spare so that it must be suspect that the an old k as in echo does with International Law, the silver anti entered a total integrity of Member States must be respected in echoed us with International Law. The rules basically that the restaurant or the is essential for International Peace and security. Which discussion is monday to month team to run blames israel for the attack in which at least 13 people accounts around the revolution regards as one of which senior commanders was among those killed the home address as a handy was a top general. But if they run the zip codes for us, we drove us east cover operations of overseas abroad and several other offices, but also count. Police rel, havent commented directly on the damascus attack, but he is defense minister. Youll have gone speaking on tuesday for the sheet, the names and we are currently animals, the front war, both in defense is incumbent on with somebody before we see how it is every day and the inclusion over the last few days. I mean my whole new we operate every well every day before in order to prevent our enemies from lately, strands should always be shown and in order to make it clear that they want me to offer it. So again, should. Ready to make it then all over the middle of that the, that the price on an action against israel show me say, will be a big one. Were lucky to get this idea of the feel of it. Well, that im ben kelley. Blue is a senior fellow at the foundation for defense of democracies where he focuses on political and Security Issues related to the wrong welcome to the w, diplomatic strikes. So sites like be writing and columns, so thats in damascus of a legitimate targets for attack it. Well, its a pleasure to be with you. Its an excellent question. And one who spirits could be answered by the un eclipse, as i just played about safeguarding the relative immunity of all sorts of diplomatic and concert facilities. Theres only one major problem or a copy of her foot, note to that which is that the governments of the comic republic commenced as hostility, 45 years ago, nearly with the outside world, by literally violating that diplomatic immunity and creating this sense of hostility and using its embassies emissions and Cultural Centers and counselor often is the broadest fronts for terrorism, or recruitment or kidnapping. And what youve seen, most importantly, is that you run use the civil war in syria at this fractious, chaotic situation. There to not only support the murders the sod regime, but to use that situation to function as a bridge, i didnt the 11 on the create yet another front against israel. So if there was any one here violating International Norms and rules, there was a linear line between cause and effect that needs to be transferred to be assessed 1st. All right, but my question was all of a legitimate targets. Your question seems to be probably not but vice doctor that there is cause and effect here. Indeed. Ok. Norms die when both sides transgress them. But you have to understand what leaves the transgression of that norm. Itd be a little bit unfair to see the retaliation and not the cause behind it. And how could each model be so sure of it comes with it was housing such a high value revolution . We got figures. Well, this is actually really the, the, the critical story behind the strike, which is that for several years now, youve been in the pre coven area. Youve had a Running Ministry of intelligence officials, even the heads of these ministries, talking about the relative penetration of Iran Security services by forwarding, selling services, assuming leave and b is really most odd. Youve seen these realities now for a little bit under a decade. Be able to pin prick and target areas where theres munitions, where those training facilities, where theres the bose and where there have been in the past. Ive seen your as nomic revolutionary guard core visuals in syria. So this essentially leaves one to only one conclusion, which is that these realize have been able to either with signals means or which human intelligence or a combination of both be able to pinpoint and g, o locate where these officials are. And when detective, these are taking place still usually seems to be implying that its not just that is right. How that has as penetrated a rounds, this Intelligence Network in this way. The presumably youre thinking of the americans might be in that as well. Uh presumably, but the thing that was formerly a point of pointed in that i think 2018 or 2019 comments did go back to israels or the finger that was formerly pointed after there was a comment about born Intelligence Services. I did go back to is with the one has to assume that any other ford Intelligence Service that is interested either also monitoring this situation as well. So how much will this attack against irans revolution be gone . How will it affect to irans ability to threaten israel as well . If you look at the biography, for example of someone like brigadier general. So eddie felt a series of post because his teeth in a famous conflict that was a former enrollment for the revolutionary guard quarter. Which was the 198019 eighties around iraq war. He was the terror on base commander for the i r g c. But most critically, he was a good codes force chief for the injury for this syria 11 on theater, which is basically the front that supplies frames equipped lebanese has the low, which is the rons most the customer proxy. I think these realize were looking to kind of disconnect the connective tissue by going after this individual, as well as other could force members of his team. So this is not a can to solving the problem. Its a can do, i think, handicapping the problem. And if you look online right now, there were some comments talking about this individual heavy as almost the 2nd. So emani was he runs chief terrace mastermind and had really architected iran visual Security Strategy and that part of the world. And so that its interesting to bring up something money, talk to us and about irans likely response because the general, so the money or you mentioned that also taken out and also assassinated. And the time around talks about responding where and how and when it was ready, same is as, as its talking about an hour or so where and how long when is that likely to happen . Do you think indeed, and even between this only money strike and this current strike, there was another senior as mama, grub prevention and guard corps official, chilled either in early january or late december. Also seemed to be by his real and also in the syrian theatre. And the local public did respond to that in a multi pronged way, both any rock and in syria interior, a claim to strike ices targets. But in iraq ended up striking the house as a courtesy business man. That is a ledge had some kind of ties to these really government search with these really goes up. So he runs evolving missile capabilities are increasingly being used to publicly adjudicate and respond to these conflicts. That could be one, or there could be more or resume targeting of Us Diplomatic facilities, military facilities in the area. Youve already seen reports of a strike on a or an attempt to track, i should say, by a drone, by any run back. She and militia on a base in syria, there can also be more kind of broader support for the multi font more against israel that these monica public has already provided. And then theres always of course, the cyber domain, which one has to keep their eyes on as well. And when you look at the running, we get today, theyre talking about this response as a potentially multi point response. Okay, good to have you. Thank you so much for talking us through that. About ben tally. Been somebody foundation for the defense of democracies. Thank you so much. Thank you. The rest of the Officials Say 13 people have been wounded and Ukrainian Drone strikes and the top us down region video, verified by the voice as news agency shows the drone, keeping a target on exploding process as the sites is a student. Dormitory ukraine claims it targeted a drone production plant and an oil refinery. This appears to be ukraines deepest drone this tie into russian territory. The sites in the cities of the buddha and niche commands are about to 1200 kilometers from the ukrainian border. A sound ben data is an advisor with a rush of studies program at cna. Hes also with the center for a new american security. I asked him if he believe his dry could been launch from inside ukraine. It is entirely possible that it was indeed launched from inside your brain. You print and military has multiple types of long range from because the drones that can fly for many hundreds of kilometers. Last year, one such strong actually struck, keep inside moscow into the crowd was so it is possible that this particular drawing could have flown from eastern crate well into a level there. Okay. So if you cry and says, as id recently about to produced a drone capable of flying a more than a 1000 kilometers, i rapidly escapes drone capability growing it is growing really rapidly and the capacity to develop such waves is actually aided by the need to develop and manufacturer, as many use as possible by the Ukrainian Military service. The research and Development Cycle is really in the matter of months. Ukraine, of course, has a lot of industrial legacy left over from the former soviet union with the production of different types of aircraft. And so it is the starting a logical legacy that is eating its ability to manufacture long range from the cost of drones, along with some of the new technologies which are seeing on this battlefield for the 1st time. So talk to us about russias ability to defend itself against drug strikes. Of his old as russia does have extensive air of air defenses. It does have Electronic Warfare defenses. It has ready electronic intelligence that has radars, but this defense is not absolute. And there are certainly gaps that exist in the russian defense. And ukraine has become very successful and very adept and exploiting these gaps. And so we can fly around these air defense pockets and apparently, well, deep inside russian territory. Ukraine can map out the slides along major roads away from large cities along forest and rural areas where its aircraft with the least visible. Talk to us about the choice of targets, ukraines choice of targets. And those things that have to choose is not to target because 1200 kilometers puts must go well within ukraines range. Yet key of a state, its hand against the russian capital, except about token attack on the crumbs and where they just broke a few windows. And you claim has a match we admitted to carrying this out. So, why not attack must go properly if i can put it that way as well. Actually, ukraine distract mazda multiple times, that attack most of the city, which is a brand new, a commercial facility, built in the, in moscow, over the past several decades. In the last several other attacks, some of which were uh and were not successful, but the impact of such as hacks is right. The list is doesnt really impair societies attitudes towards the war. It doesnt really impact how society feels about this conflict on this combat. And so, strikes against moscow around the limit at the same time, attracting Russian Energy infrastructure, industrial infrastructure, possible locations, and sides for long ridge drones are assembled against you crate. These targets are rather successful and have a very Significant Impact on the russian economy and possibly on his ability to wait. Sure. Okay. But let, let me be the blood to about this if, if you cry and can destroy an oil refinery oil think so it has the capability to destroy an oil refinery. Why not blow up the criminal as well . Again, im not a great decision maker. Im not in the military, so im not going to speak on behalf of ukraine, but destroying the crime when, or even the attacking the russian government locations. Again, its not going to be as impactful as going after russias ability to generate revenue for this war, including oil refineries, defense infrastructure, railroad infrastructure, warehouse, military production facilities, military factories, attack of the problem and maybe rather symbolic. Because after a last year strikes, there are a lot of defenses arrayed against uh, excuse me, around most going certainly around pro. So such attack may not even succeed. But the attack today demonstrated that most of ross is your view territory. Does west of the roll mount, this is actually within the ukrainian reach and that is where the bulk of the population, the bulk of the industry are located. And thats where the bulk of Economic Activity is located as well. And now all of that is within reach of you create incoming cost of drugs. Rush ads, excuse me, you cry inside the target of this attack was a factory producing the iranian design to sha had drugs is key going to be able to attend russian drone Production Capacity as well. The attack a little while ago, it was a rather high value target. That factory is set to manufacturer of thousands of long range. I have drones which russia flies under its name will get on gun drones have been rather devastating against ukraine recently. So any ability to dance that production to limit the production, excuse me, to impact the production of these jobs is going to be rather significant. And of course, the level of is not the only droll manufacturing plant in the western territory of russia. There are many other enterprises and now all of them are potentially the process as well. Another target was a russian oil refinery. And this reportedly was despite the us asking k of to desist from the sorts of attacks. Do you think we are likely to see more of the site it is entirely possible as long as rushing maintains pressure on ukraine by launching missiles and get right rolls against your brain. So good with terry and economic target to grant now has demonstrated the capacity to do the same, i guess russia and it is going to exercise the capacity as long as the work continues. Thank you for joining us to talk and see that the assignment that from the sent it for a new american secure thing. Thank you. Its not whats today. You can follow out to him on social media at the w news. Youll find the latest headlines on our website, c, w dot com on the t w. 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