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And the beginning and the end of everything there is light. And god said let there be light and there was light. The light the crowning achievement of creation represents consciousness. Without light there is no vision without light there is no light without light there is no art. James to rail uses light to create art to rel is not a god but many consider him one of our greatest contemporary artists of his works dont simply make use of light they are light itself. Is installations they the viewer in light trucks i. Use your orientation as if in a heavy for. Outlines disappear. Everything and. 3 are going to museum in body posting. The largest ever seen a year. Old and gives interviews but at the museum. 75 years old now he rarely travels to these kinds of exhibitions which are held all over the world. The conversation focused on the main theme of his work the secrets of light. Mist that are out when and how did you 1st realize that the world is all about flights i dont know the very can tell you anything about religion or or science but i do know that a lot of art is about right if you look at just the history of art in our you know our culture. Is littered with people who are depicting life in amazing ways and using it for the staging of the drama of of our living and what we do rather than depicted i wanted to use light itself. But that may be made for some sort of staging and certainly more installation kinds of work and he said to your enough to depicting life the work is lights and could you explain the difference well i like that quality of it which has to do with the title of the show the substance of light the thing those of light were talking about actually light being affected. A substance. I may have uses here where you realize in order to see the walls which you can see youre looking through something and the slight residing in the space is no different than say walking through the forest and you see a beam of light come down that illuminates the atmosphere or the air and nuff that you see this me. In space and youre not just seeing it on the surface of the of the ground or. Things like have you actually are seeing this light session having space. James to real shows us how do you like from a different perspective like it is to him what paint is to a painter its raw material. That was some difficulty because you know with life you dont form a flight clay with the hands you dont carve it away like. In a wood or stone you actually have to build it almost like you do with music so you have to make instruments it does that. There are times in your apartment you can play well wagner is a good example. You play this music and suddenly the. Space sure it is much larger. Sound and hear light extends a space. Thats what youre building your building with kind of space making material. I. James to rails art can be both bewildering and moving its something you experience. At 1st glance this may seem like a projected image but it is in fact a space guns felt. Viewers are gradually drawn into the space and they begin to wonder who am i. And where am i. And lets take a look at the guns for its serious for instance and theres no focus really just no object or youre the other for interest i am the object. And yet its interesting what what are we left with when there is no no focus mall or for oh no focus no object no thing and basically were were entering this new. Landscape which is the landscape with horizon and you see that when you get the white out while skiing you can see it all flying when you enter the cloud and. Gauge an instrument flying. Also when you dive there are times when you run with it you know which way is up is just by watching your bubbles. And we are entering this new realm now and were learning to navigate it so im very interested in this new landscape and how we feel within it and how light helps to build that space but what do you think what are we doing to find out about ourselves in that new space. Well for us well just balance is interesting because we use horizon so much for balance. And even on a boat you know you get seasick if you go down below and you dont have arise and you come up with on deck and you look at horizon you can study the stomach more easily so that we have been for a long time using this idea of horizon if youre a pilot and you do aerobatics at 1st you can feel this elaborate and then this actually. Charges here you actually want to experience that you want to feel that and it actually has a good feeling and thats when you know that youre youre beginning to be able to navigate this this realm this new realm you set that i am the object in your work and how do i see myself seeing how does that work well you are literally investigating your at your scene and its not so much my seeing that i present to you and then you can go and. With that knowledge put it into your saying this is actually its about youre seeing directly as you experience it so you get the chance to discover it for yourself its not a discovery of mine so much as it is becomes your discovery thats what i hope anyway. James trail is also an experienced pilot and he made a key just covering one day while flying he became aware of the majestic scope and beauty of the sky. He has created sky escapes all over the world. These chambers provide viewers with a new visual perspective on the heavens the universe and eternity. This is the museum in the n. D. S. Mountains of argentina it was funded by the swiss entrepreneur and arts patron donald hess. The museum stands 2300 meters above sea level fully isolated from the rest of the world. In this place nature often stages its own light shows. When did you really fall in love with the sky as a pilot will certainly as opposed to you do because. Thats who supports you and i mean it is this atmosphere that you are swimming in and of course it is life like water it is the it has substance and it has changes as you see weather come or light involved with that atmosphere and thats what fish are quite beautiful and people experience that coming over from the u. S. To europe as you wake up and you go into the the morning that youre headed into course the pilots are up there with the best seat in the house. And but yours is good enough i mean after the site it really is amazing what happens as you approach the continent here and so ive always enjoyed that flight you say that you can even change the color of the sky and how do you do that im not changing the color of the sky but im im changing your context a vision which give you a different color to sky to make it any color you like and some of these very spaces but. That has more to do with you know how we form our perception we we the sky is blue because we have give it that color we awarded that color because we do that means it and then we can change it so. Thats not difficult to do. But i mean the and people are surprised by that because its essentially we feel we receive everything that were not a part of that we behold and were definitely a part of that we behold so and thats one thing the artist can do is sort of give you the general cohen to tell you well you know youre making this reality within which you live. So its nice to be aware of it. And it was from the air the james to rail discovered what would become his greatest artistic achievement. This is the road in the crater in arizona. Trail his bills a kind of observatory inside the crater complete with underground shafts and tunnels hes been working on this project for 4 decades and is still not complete here charlie experiments not only with lights but also with sound and acoustics. These pieces are sensitive to light and sound. Its almost difficult to make. Because once you make 0. 03 if you like. Its very bright to sell so you can take you to college you can take. A visit to the crater is an experience that almost overwhelms the senses. Its this is something where you were within the earth but above it and so this you know taking self into this in the sky is something very very interesting you know all the faces i make have access to the sky and to rise above and you know one of things we rarely do is if you are in new york and you watch people from just the 2nd floor of hardly anybody looks up. Its a mess so part of this is just sort of redirect your vision and also makes you realize theres the whole world thats above us. And that we have access to it. Today cherelle lives and works in flagstaff arizona a town with a population of about 65000. Well hello. Ma. Its kind of. Flagstaff is cold in winter and hot in summer. James terrelle was born in Los Angeles California about 600 kilometers west of here. Oh i get it im. Doing fine. I think there must be Something Special about the life of california how did you perceive flied when you were a child. Well children oriental light and you do that in the crib and here you will look to it and something that really helps orient to this. And i mean california is not that different than say south of france or or italy or spain. The thing that is very interesting though is a lot of people who freesheet light are from areas where its. It is not as prevalent and more precious and so you know you have cost or you have turner amazing very precious thing for artists just for david fritter if there are 3 lights school all the painters of light from norway sweden and. Petra very who are came to germany to study art in a way its more appreciated worths more precious. When james tarell frames light as in a painting hes following a centuries old tradition of western art. From the baroque period which in modern times artists have been captivated by the power of light. Light can bring a scene to life increase its dramatic effect and focus the viewers attention. In the 17th century the use of light transformed the world of art. For the 1st time artists used like to highlight their subjects and not just saints but mere mortals. And even the artists themselves. They created a world of sharp contrast between whites and dark. Their renaissance sought to bring light into darkness using science and reason to counter the influence of the church and religion. Rembrandts the anatomy lesson of dr nicholas tulip is the quintessential renaissance art work the participants are gathered around the corpse of a criminal and the body is bathed in light. In the 18th century the english painter William Turner took the use of light to a new level in his work the slave ship the sky and see the low. Light of lunch the canvas and rollers contrasts turner also made use of dissolves and fading effects which he copied from early photographs. In the 20th Century Photography became the preferred medium for experimenting with light. Gifted photographers like man ray made substantial contributions to this art form. One of todays most important artists care hard reached or has found new ways to use light is still life skull with candle plays with our perceptions. The images are indistinct blurred shimmering nothing is as it seems. James to rail uses many of these same effect in his works images blend into one another playing tricks on the viewers imagination. In college to real study psychology mathematics and astronomy these disciplines are reflected in his work a sophisticated attempt to alter our sense of perception one might said you are even more than an artist youre a kind of loss of her spiritual guide maybe a scientist how do you see yourself as an artist i mean as i say this is not things that inform science im informed by. An interesting point is that life is also just and para p. And one of your pieces is called healing light so is it kind of a healing experience or do you try to balance it in terms of the for groceries if you stay. In the exhibition so it has kind of all color but you know the the Energy System is this is keyed off of exposure to light and so people call that the shocker is you just call it unified system thats fine but it is something that is physically us and so we do orient to these things and do get healing from that i was wondering and to what extent at least experience is spiritual i mean light is also a universal symbol for the divine each and every human being yes and artists have been involved with religion since day one. Making work that supports the rhetoric that comes from the priesthood or or not. But if you see that all the altar pieces and everything here and in europe i mean its quite amazing what artists did and how they were involved with the church and also a problem for the church it seems that you were inspired by the maybe he meditated quality of light because you know you do go inside to greet the light in meditation and that you will get that visual purple and youll get the beginning of that as you enter meditation so we are followed by light we carry it within us so there never is no light even when youre inside. You know a deposition cell youll find that there is light that just close your eyes youll enter a life filled realm of eventually this is i mean we do have this life inside and. Were orient to it and. You know this is a visual montra. Present visual mantras james to rails works reflect his interest in eastern mysticism but theyre by no means esoteric. His parents were devout quakers a form of christianity that believes there is good in everyone and that we all have a direct connection to god. Sitting in silence in quaker meeting to real learned his child to come to a place of peace in the quiet. He was raised to find the divine light in every person. This is the door to start cemetery in central berlin philosopher georg hale and author and playwright virtual brecht are among those buried here. A few years ago terrelle transformed the chapel here with an installation that took full advantage of the twilight hours. A room without shadows filled with changing colors. The altar is a cube of acrylic less. Outfitted with l. E. D. S. That make it a Central Source of light. Very much in line with the traditional christian concept of god as creator and the source of divine light. Here unlike into roles guns filled works the contours remain sharply defined so that viewers maintain proper orientation. The space in which. One remembers the souls of the dead. Christians are invited to reflect on their belief in eternal life. Some may find comfort in the idea that life will not end in darkness but in light light is present at the beginning and at the end of life. At last id like to know if theres a life that you love and maybe a life that you hate. While. I mean i appreciate it all i dont have any that i hate. One of the things i like to do is to give light like ive seen in the dream. This is basically a different life than we normally have there were normally involved with in the conscious awake state and what does this light come from in the dream is that memory well. Part of it could be memory yes that is replayed but then the truth is we are often involved in experiences that we find later. In what we call the conscious await the waking state or life. As in deja vu so. Its not all memory which is quite interesting and curious. Has the light come from a war does the light come from in the dream they werent where does it come from. And it. Is something we definitely experience. And it is powerful the dreams are most powerful when we have the dreams and color of course and often when they are this kind of dream it is not from memory but from. Experiences that are to come the lucid dream is quite amazing and most people have had one but thats not just having one its having one that they remembered because we often wake up and from the moment of awakening the dream is leaving us and so were trying to hold on to it but you know you can do that a bit with art by making like that its very similar to how we see light in the dream because its not know how we dont see light. But what if you have this flat unknown 2 of which i find very fascinating. Great thank you very much youre very welcome. 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