talked about enough. but if you want people to talk about the deficit and debt, i have a piece of advice. get a democrat elected president because nothing will make people talk about the debt and deficit faster than a democrat being in the white house. >> no, no, no. what you're really saying is when republicans are in control, democrats will talk about it. when democrats are in control, republicans will talk about it. what i'm saying is i just got done watching through two preferential debates on the democratic side and there was not one question from the moderator side or a candidate side on deficit or government spending. and i'm listening to the president who says i will not touch any of the things that drive our debt and spending. so i'm simply saying oh my goodness, if you look at the numbers, this problem is not our grandkids' problem or our problem, this is our problem and it's going to come in the next couple of years. and if we don't tackle it before the next presidential race, debate and cycle, we're in trouble. >> but you don't have a feeling one way or the other about