problem dealing with thesemy grans on our side. so mexico which has limited capacity compared to the united states might have even worse humanitarian responses here. beyond that, i also think generally speaking trump's foreign policy and his, quote unquote, deal making has involved as both the arsonist and the firefighter. he's created this crisis, manufactured the crisis and now is claiming victory for the status quo with some modest changes. so i think the question is what will the long-term damage be of creating this sort of tariff war and that damage might significant lit outweigh any small concessions see even if they do pass muster. >> sometimes the firefighter can't put out the fire that they set. with the international tariff war, rick, with investment banks saying that the likelihood of recession has been increased as a result of this thing, you know, the president likes to talk up the economy.