and finally, trump and his people will have to live with this over the long memorial day weekend. "the new yorker" is on the board with a barry blitt caricature cover offering a devastating depiction of the president's supplicants graham, barr, and mcconnell. it's titled "the shining." we are happy to welcome tonight's guests to our lead-off discussion on this thursday evening. all four returning veterans. kimberly atkins senior washington correspondent for wbur, boston's npr news station. kelsey snell, congressional reporter for npr. robert costa, national political reporter for the "washington post," moderator of "washington week" on pbs. and jeremy bash former chief of staff at cia and pentagon, former chief counsel for the house intel committee. and jeremy, given your experience on the hill, i'd like to begin with you on this potential for the mueller testimony. here is how we know what we know