bitter. but she then joins his administration as secretary of state. so, i think that this is -- some of this is very much natural. >> everybody enters thanksgiving morning a little scared of that cousin you don't want to know, but by the end of having the turkey and everything, you're like, all right, he ain't that bad. scott, go ahead. >> i agree with my colleague, but this is a little different between hillary and bernie, in my opinion. this is when the progressives on the left of the party were deeply involved in trying to change the rules of the party. deeply involved in trying to win the nomination. the progressives weren't there yet in the democratic party and there were many people when hillary lost, there were a lot of democrats in their opinion and their supporters' opinion that didn't vote for hillary clinton. may have voted for a third-party candidate or not voted at all. that gap of those losing those democratic voters, the hillary clinton side really believes that that may have turned the corner for her. and she couldn't turn the corner