potentially. >> those are all very important pieces of the investigation. look, we don't obviously know yet whether there was a direct criminal conspiracy here between the trump campaign and the russian government. if we do ever get an answer to that question, i don't think it was ever going to come from the senate intelligence committee. not to belittle their investigation, they'll have important findings for, for example, policy choices that congress needs to make. but they don't have the investigative tools that bob mueller has, intelligence he's been able to gather that they don't have access to. they don't have the threat of sending someone to jail to turn people into cooperating witnesses the way mueller has. underlying this entire debate, there's always been this question of whether we would find a criminal conspiracy. that doesn't mean there hasn't been collusion that's staring us right in the face. to some extent the collusion has been out in the open. we know -- whether there was ever a direct agreement between the russians and the president's campaign or not, we know that both sides knew what the other's interests were. you had as early as july of