Excessive tape, those are things to key in on. Every bomb maker, theyre just like bakers, they have their own special signature, how they crimp the wires, the tool marks, how they tape it up and type out the address. Thank you for your expertise. Were going to stand by, jim and i here. Were just about a block away from cnn, which is still closed because theyre looking at what that white powder could be. Well go back to the studio in d. C. I do want to reset what we know right now. Any moment now the president is expected to deliver a speech where hes likely to address these devices that have been sent to Public Officials and offices today. A pipe bomb appeared to be mailed to the Time Warner Center, which is where cnn is in new york. And there is white powder still
being tested in the mail room there. We have an image of a device addressed to former cia director john brenan. However, it was found there at Time Warner Center. Also targeted, former president obama, the clintons and forme
potentially. those are all very important pieces of the investigation. look, we don t obviously know yet whether there was a direct criminal conspiracy here between the trump campaign and the russian government. if we do ever get an answer to that question, i don t think it was ever going to come from the senate intelligence committee. not to belittle their investigation, they ll have important findings for, for example, policy choices that congress needs to make. but they don t have the investigative tools that bob mueller has, intelligence he s been able to gather that they don t have access to. they don t have the threat of sending someone to jail to turn people into cooperating witnesses the way mueller has. underlying this entire debate, there s always been this question of whether we would find a criminal conspiracy. that doesn t mean there hasn t been collusion that s staring us right in the face. to some extent the collusion has been out in the open. we know whether there w
2015, a month after trump got into the campaign, him saying that if he was president, he didn t think there would need to be sanctions against the russians. you have him publicly asking the russians to hack his opponent s e-mails. you of course have his son telling the russians he would welcome their help. there may not ever be a direct agreement that rises to a crime. we ll know the answer to that when mueller finishes his investigation. that doesn t mean there was collusion between the two sides in some way. you alluded to a question about what his russia policy would be, asked by maria butina who he thought was just an audience member, perhaps, but it was clearly a planted question in some way, that she got the question there and was able to ask about russia policy. chuck, just a quick clarification here, collusion is not a crime. conspiracy is a crime. right. the fact that there s no collusion is a great talking point and the president used it last night at the rally already,
though he signals acceptance, then when he got the legislation before christmas, we know what happened, we had a shutdown. he can reject it, we think that s unlikely given the republican opposition to that. he can accept it reluctantly but declare an emergency and find the money that way and get into a court fight. or, and this appears to be more likely now, his omb director and acting chief of staff is hinting at finding unallocated money, unspent funds that he could take from military spending for housing on bases, from puerto rico emergency relief, from flood relief for northern california where they ve got mudslides and flooding now after the wildfires. would that third option make it impossible for you to stop him from doing anything? well, mr. mulvaney has come up with something that doesn t seem to make a great deal of sense. the fact is, he should have accepted what he said he would
going quick and we want to say who did it, but we ll find out by doing an investigation and exploiting the evidence that has been recovered. with your expertise, at this point in time, these are life explosive devices. thank god nothing has detonated so far. right. i can t even express how obviously thankful we are. because that has not happened, that doesn t mean there hasn t been an attack. that seems to be the distinction you are making, just because something has not exploded, don t treat this i feel very comfortable saying this is a terrorist attack. it has an intended purpose to spread fear. i m a trained atf agent, i felt scared coming to cnn today. i get it. this is a real thing. we re going to check that our law enforcement, atf, fbi, post an inspectors, they ve trained for their job today and they re going to catch who did this, whether it was one person or a