there is a lot of energy there that perhaps doesn't fit what some folks in florida are used to engaging. and that is scary to a lot of people. and the robocall is very overt. there is so many other ways these sort of microaggressions, when you talk about race in this sort of coded language, folks are used to that. it's important for us to call that out even more than before. >> very quickly, amy, in the time we have, we saw desantis double down, no apology. point of no return when it comes to this? >> i think that was a big mistake for him. >> yeah. all right. well, will this become the overall narrative? very quickly, basel? >> between now and november, i think this is going to dominate for a little while, actually. i hope we get into issues nationally, not just in florida. >> all right. well, thank you to both of you for your time. great hearing your perspective. and we are approaching the top of the hour, which means i'm out of time. i'm frances rivera in for alex
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