capeheart. i'll let you react to that first. you have kellyanne conway back this morning. this is the new line, the rnc's talking points. it's the new line from the white house. they want credit for the policy at the southern border because their base likes it but they want the blame to go to the cra. >> you know, i'll tell you, joy, it's so difficult to watch these -- all of the statements that anyone from this administration tries to make in support of this policy. because it's just absurd. kellyanne conway has a difficult job and she has to go out on behalf of the president. the same thing for sarah huckabee sanders doing the same thing on friday. how people who are mothers could stand for this lie that the administration is telling, and it's just part of a strategy. basically the trump administration is holding children hostage and saying to democrats, if you pay for the border wall that i want, i will reunite these children with their parents. it's a strategy. it's horrible. it's a lie and it's also part of