to fulfill their role as a check on the executive branch. >> we continue to act here as if all is normal, as if all parties are observing norms. even as the executive branch shatters them. robustly trafficking in conspiracy theories and attacking all institutions that don't pay the president obedience. our justice system, the free press, the list is getting longer. we demearselves and our proper constitutional role when we act like we work for the president, that we are only here to do his bidding. especially now. >> john heilmann, jonathan lemire, ashley parker remain with us. and john, i'm going to posit a theory to have you kick it around, that this may be the most normal thing donald trump does as president, that under fdr, under lbj and richard nixon, you had to stay in line. and you were called out if you