he thought that would be problematic, the president's son replied this. i didn't think that listening to someone with information relevant to the fitness and character of a presidential candidate would be an issue. no. it was an argument seconded by president trump's lawyer rudy giuliani last night. watch this. >> remember june of 2016? that's about when i joined the campaign. nobody's going to focus on a russian woman who says that she has false information about hillary, turns out she wants to negotiate sanctions and they throw her out, basically. and then when she wants to meet again they don't meet with her. who -- i wouldn't remember that. i had people coming up to me saying all kinds of things about hillary and i'm willing to believe almost anything about her. when i ran against them they were longing for dirt on me every day. i mean, that's what you do. maybe you shouldn't but you do it. nothing illegal about that. and even if it comes from a russian or a german or an american, it doesn't matter. and they never used it is the main thing.