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You know who i did it at the request of? the state department. i never talked to a ukrainian official until the state department called me and asked me to do it and then i reported every conversation back to them. and i m a pretty good lawyer, just a country lawyer but it s all here, right here. welcome back to hardball. that was president trump s personal attorney rudy giuliani last night defending his interactions with ukraine. giuliani s efforts to dig up dirt on the bidens is the central focus now of president trump s july phone call with the ukrainian president himself. one key quote from the white house notes president trump told the ukrainian leader i want to ask him to call you along with the attorney general. rudy very much knows what s happening and he s a very capable guy. if you could speak with him, that would be great, closed quote. the washington post reports on ....
Constantly hobble a democratic president, duly elected. michael zeldin, unchecked authority? is that what the president has? he has broad authority, but that authority is checked by his obligation to act on behalf of the united states and not on behalf of himself. and the allegations here, the facts of which we don t know, all seem to imply that the president may have been acting on behalf of his own interests, his own campaign interests. and not the interests of the united states. so were it the case that he was only acting on behalf of the united states, then matt s argume argument, but it s not known yet how the president was acting and what gave rise to the complaint. rachael, it strikes me listening to rudy giuliani last night that in a moment, even, his position moved from defending and denying to justifying, frankly. what he did here, which was, you know, go there and try to pursue, pressure the ukrainian ....
Committee in the senate has to assure that our diplomatic aims and objectives overseas are being communicate only by the state department and that they are not confused with political outreach from the president s team. i hope the foreign relations committee takes this up. i wanted to play for you, rudy giuliani last night with chris cuomo on cnn, rudy giuliani, a controversial role, you re raising questions why he would have been involved at all in communicating with a foreign leader and representing u.s. interests or political interests for the president. and he certainly did not clarify it last night. let s play this. did you ask the ukraine to investigate joe biden? no. actually i didn t. i asked the ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of 2016 by the ukrainians for the benefit of hillary clinton for which there you never asked anything about hunter biden, you never asked anything about joe biden? the only thing i asked abou ....
I spoke to rudy giuliani last night and told me directly the president s answers are not in conflict. you see the president there and we lost it. he insists rudy giuliani there is no conflict in what the president said and what cohen said in terms of timing and what not. so look, despite what the president may have said in public before the key is what did he tell bob mueller in the written answers. the president s legal team is insisting to us that they re fine and not worried about the answers he gave mueller. what we don t know is what bob mueller thinks about those answers. what we do know is that all of this rash of activity in the last week both by mueller and the surprise appearance and guilty plea by flynn and the comments that president trump has been making on twitter have all come after mueller got the answers from trump. and it makes you think oh, well gee, mueller was waiting to see what trump said and now he sprung a trap potentially a ....
He thought that would be problematic, the president s son replied this. i didn t think that listening to someone with information relevant to the fitness and character of a presidential candidate would be an issue. no. it was an argument seconded by president trump s lawyer rudy giuliani last night. watch this. remember june of 2016? that s about when i joined the campaign. nobody s going to focus on a russian woman who says that she has false information about hillary, turns out she wants to negotiate sanctions and they throw her out, basically. and then when she wants to meet again they don t meet with her. who i wouldn t remember that. i had people coming up to me saying all kinds of things about hillary and i m willing to believe almost anything about her. when i ran against them they were longing for dirt on me every day. i mean, that s what you do. maybe you shouldn t but you do it. nothing illegal about that. and even if it comes from a russian or a german or an american, it ....