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i think it's important to note, lawrence, that what john kelly said in his interview today reinforced something that we learned before. that it was kelly, probably in conjunction with steve miller, who killed the possibility of an agreement that lindsey graham and dick durbin and jeff flake and others worked out that might have avoided a shut down and worked in something constructive moving forward. kelly called tom cotton and bob good lat, two people who will never be a part of dealing with daca to make sure trump didn't do something they didn't want. and trump didn't know what was in the agreement, was set off by kelly. so kelly doesn't know politics but also intervened because of his own strong views, which have become apparent. >> time for one quick question.

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