michael wolff has said it was the president himself who first gave this sort of tacit approval. what is going on here that other people may seem to be getting a pass? >> well, you know, if half of your cabinet is calling you adult, you can't very well fire half of the cabinet. it's much easier for bannon to be the lightning rod. first of all because of the things he said were that much more incautious and secondly, bannon who told the others it's okay to talk to this it guy wolff are and third because bannon's been in the hot seat before. in the interview i did that contributed to bannon getting fired back in august, he said some very reckless things and that was enough to get him fired from the white house. it wasn't enough to create a total breach with trump, who still felt he needed to have midnight conversations with bannon as a strategist, but bannon was already on thin ice. it's easier for bannon to be kind of the -- not the scapegoat but the lightning rod for the frustration the president feels