>> wait a minute. >> i was going to say, what about -- this is something that masha talked about or maybe barry weiss talked about it. this is going to keep going and it's going to keep steam rolling and women have said this, not me, but it ultimately leads to a duke lacrosse case. it ultimately leads to -- ultimately leads to a rolling stone virginia article, two stories which, by the way, while i've been at this network we covered as the truth. i covered as the truth for a month. >> people get wronged in these investigations. and the two examples you cited are perfect ones. i'm just saying that, again, the time magazine cover was right. >> yeah. >> this is the year of the silence speaker. >> i'm the first to -- >> it was poignant to watch al franken who, in many ways, has been a hardworking, decent litiga litigator, a classmate of mine,