should women be put in jail? should have be legal ramifications, and that's a tough thing because roe v. wade was put in place to give timelines and parameters from what timeline to timeline you're allowed to have an abortion. it's a tough issue and it goes down the road he tried to step around about women and how women are viewed. it's a tough issue. >> jeremy, no problem saying the male involved in a pregnancy if you have an abortion, should not be punished. a quig answer on that. >> he dink. i think two things. one, this whole episode is indicative of how donald trump ran his campaign and is likely to run his candidacy, which is he makes up a significant portion of it as he goes along. you could tell he hadn't thought it out. as hooe thought through it, a few more clicks down the logical road, finally, when you pushed him, ye, there must be some form of punishment, but he hadn't thought about it and he didn't