thanks for your service. it can be a big grind but it is a big honor as well. >> it is a big honor. thank you for having me. thank you. >> we'll have more from chuck's interview on our website meetthepress.com. jennifer, let's look at this in the big picture. so you have clearly, as chuck just pointed out, and as the secretary just pointed out, you have a product that people want. you have a lot of people who have signed up. does that give those who don't want to repeal obamacare any ammunition realistically to fight what clearly has been stated by the president-elect of the united states that he wants to get rid of obamacare as we know it? >> well, you know, she was exactly right when she said that people really have nothing to lose by signing up right now and they're encouraging people to do that. that benefits the obama administration by reinforcing that they were right and this