month he hadn't actually been formally charged in relation to that episode because they hadn't been able to locate him to serve him with legal papers. meanwhile he's flying the vice presidential candidate around the country. so that's the pilot who got fired from the pence campaign plane last month. do you know who they replaced him with? >> i do not know who the gentleman is. they switch people out. >> so it's rotating? >> so it's a rotating basis, yeah. >> how old are you? >> 25. >> have you done a lot of flying in your reporting job and in your personal life? >> yes. >> is the pence campaign plane the only campaign plane on which you have had hard landings like this? >> that's accurate. >> that's really weird. john hillyard. i don't know what the relationship is between these two halves of this story, but knowing that this runway thing happened tonight after a series of hard landings that was a topic of discussion by you guys, it weirds me out and we will try to get to the bottom of it. and i'm glad that you're okay. thanks. appreciate it.