it's a very helpful tool to give you ideas. >> so stitcher radio is a great podcasting app that you can download. it's also a website. you can listen to really great podcasts and podcasts are tremendous opportunity to take advantage of that 20, 30-minute drive you have to learn about great things that are out there. stitcher radio has really great voices that might not be heard through traditional media but you get great exposure to a variety of businesses. >> thanks so much for joining us today. to learn more head over to our website. it's openforum.com/your business. you'll find all of the segments we have on today's show plus a lot more information to help your small business grow. you can also follow us on twitter, it's@msnbcyourbiz and we're on facebook and instagram. next week a pennsylvania golf course founded in the 1920s needed a new name to signal a new business plan, so the owner