he never read -- >> he said yeah -- right, that would be against the law but casey asked him and he said yes twice. they didn't support it but they didn't oppose it and come out and morally say this is a terrible idea. people deserve that birthright. so, you know, also, i think it's really, it would really create a kind of police state to enforce it. what's he going to do? put them in cattle cars? buses? >> henry, i mean, to me the thing that is so disturbing, first of all, how do you find -- >> house to house. we're already dealing with a law enforcement question in this country, in this country. >> nationwide, that's right. >> the fact that there seems to be a sense of almost cowardness among his opponents afraid to take him on on something like this, changing the constitution to take away citizenship, they