within occupation groups and income levels, is there something the government can do? >> no question. the research that scientists have done, title 7 has made a difference. the federal contract compliance we have already, makes reports and affirmative action plans. all the research shows that it has made a difference. and two of the policies from the president would make a difference. pay transparency. lily led better found out toward the end of her career at goodyear that she was making tens of thousands of dollars less than her male coworker. so, if you have that information and you can share it without penalties --