calipers. is that a key place people can be politically active, because there is an actual political pressure there? >> oh, i think this is a -- this issue is prime for divestiture. we have been mourning the loss of, you know, amazing leader in south africa. it was die test at your that helped change politics in south africa. it will be divestiture that helps force, you know, really horrible business community businesses like wall street, cerberus, to change their ways. but until we vote with our wallets, i fear that steven feinberg, frankly, likes more massachusetts kerrs, because mass shootings, because gun sales go up. and we need to hold him accountable. >> yeah, i think in all fairness, that's not an accurate statement. you can be profiting off the industry without wanting the% use of the weapons. many of the people in that line of business have said that repeatedly on record.