the house gym, by the way, is open and now they're talking about -- and we have a picture of the door. we're not allowed inside to show you the fancy equipment but there's a bill that's been introduced to remove the essential status from the gym. bob, what is going on here? >> it's really -- it's real craziness. and while it's proper to highlight the terrible situation with the troops who were killed and what's happened with their families, i think one of the things that's gotten lost here is the number of ordinary people who are suffering as a result of this shutdown. it seems to the american people, and i've talked to a lot of people now, that these folks in congress don't really care about the impact on ordinary individuals. you know, there's this turf fight going on and it's gotten out of control. >> you don't think about it and that's why we wanted to do that at the top. alaska's fishermen who the crabbing season is about to start. they don't know if they'll be able to put food on the table for their family. >> one of the things that this highlights is why should alaska