>> what does it say to you about the system you worked 34 years inside of. that what happened to robert could have happened, what do you take away as a lesson from this episode? >> well, the lesson is is that people need to help parties that are going pros se. what i did was give him a public record that he was able to use. and i think that the law should be changed that judges should be taken out of the mix on deciding these dna motions. and they should automatically be granted. it will either show that they were guilty or they were innocent. >> and robert, what are your plans for your future now out in the world? >> it's amazing. it's nice to be free.