it won't be easy. this sunday on the christian broadcasting network, rnc chair rens prebusiness was reminding all the tolerance talk was giving evangelicals the heby jeebies. >> i don't care for the word tolerance. i don't have a problem with it, i just think it has another meaning that politically that can go the other direction. >> joining the panel now, executive director of the aclu, anthony ramiro. thanks for joining us. >> of course. thank you. >> your pal steve schmidt is somewhere in the ether world. >> he's working. >> start with the issue of tolerance. speaking from the vantage point of the aclu and speaking to the issue of gay marriage, given the work at hand -- >> i think we have to send haim dictionary so he could look up the word tolerance.