gentleman joining us from washington, associate editor and columnist for theç washington post david ignacious. >> there are pleasant surprises for me every debate. there have been very depressing debates, but last night, i was really pleased to hear michele bauchmann school rick perry when he engaged in demagoguery on pakistan. i want to play you this clip where i think perry just talked about slashing aid to pakistan. which we all know would be the stupidest thing to do right now despite the fact that they are such bad actors. but michele bauchmann came through with which i think the best answer of the night. >> they showed us time after time that they can't be trusted. and until pakistan clearly shows that they have america's best interest in mind, i would not send them one penny. >> with all due respect to the