that the president seemed to be very much in control, very much conciliatory and very much open to ideas, but will to push back when appropriate. >> it seems that cheney was also forth coming when he talked about where he stands today on certainly tactics. take a listen to this. >> in your view, we should still be using enhanced interrogation? >> yes. >> mo regrets? >> no regrets. >> should we still be waterboarding terror suspects? >> i would strongly support using it again if circumstances arose where we had a high-value detainee and that was the only way we could get him to talk. >> even though so many people have condemned it, people call it torture, you think it should still be a tool? >> yes. >> so we also discuss the differences, robert, that you brought up with colin powell and condoleezza rice, he still remainz defiant today, and in that example you bring up,