when it was also coming out of a recession at that time, you could let those tax rates go up. >> and let's be clear. allan green span who was a big advocate of the original bush tax cuts has said, it's time to let them go. let them expire. the remarkable thing about washington when it comes to this particular issue is in 2000, we had a big surplus. we seemed to be having economic growth for the foreseeable future, so we made a policy based on that. george w. bush was very clear. we had a surplus. it was the people's money, he was going to return it to the people. we now have exactly the opposite situation. we have a giant deficit. in a totally economic position. and yet they are saying we need the same policy. we need to agree that this is a different situation than in 1999 or 2000, and change. but as of yet, you have this now more than everism. whatever is going on, well, now more than ever, tax cuts and shrinking government is the answer to it. >> and rarely do we have this