been feeling? >> they also look at the fact that more than 14 million of our fellow americans don't have a job today. i don't think there are a whole lot of economists in the world who think that in a recession and while the experts might say there's no recession, if you are one of those 14 million, you are in a person of recession and not depression. the way to create jobs is to race stakzs on small businesses. it's not the right thing to do. we can agree -- >> what about on people who make over $1 million a year? >> i don't think that's -- that's wonderful rhetoric. we're only going to tax them. that is not going to happen. a significant impact on the deficit at all. the fact is we are spending $1.65 trillion, trillion with a t, more this year than we take in. if we took every nickel people over -- who made more than $1 million a year earned from them, we wouldn't balance the budget over the course of the next ten years. it is not the solution. the solution is to reduce government spending and to grow