galina espinoza, copresident and editor yeah director with latina magazine. rick, the more he talks about this, does he move himself closer to or further he away from being taken seriously as a presidential candidate? >> you know, chris, donald trump is a modern-day p.t. barnum. he has built a brand called trump, which he's made enormous fortune off of. >> and which he could use. >> obviously makes him a potent force in terms of money. he's got some charisma. but this issue is a side show when we're struggling with energy policy, libya, afghanistan, iraq, japan, korea, a fiscal meltdown in washington. we need people that are going to be addressing serious questions and solving problems. and i think the republican candidate that emerges finally as the opponent to president obama will be somebody who's got answers to those questions. >> let me play for you another little clip of trump. because that wasn't all he had to say. listen to this from last night. >> people have birth certificates. he doesn't have a birth certificate.