that's good for america. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. 2004, president bush had a margin over john kerry. it's a lot easier to do a demonstrated, concentrated effort like pat just described when you only have to deal with 15 battleground states. >> if you don't only have to seal pennsylvania, or ohio? >> is it bipartisan or is that one party really wanting it versus the other. >> it's a nonpartisan activity. we try to stay away from the partis partisanship. we don't try to make predictions who it's going to help or who it's not. what's important is when people wake up on wednesday morning they want to know their vote counted equally and the candidate with the most votes won and the least amount of -- >> which party is pushing the -- >> neither one. >> neither one? >> neither one.