which were p serious and so you re going to have to start to try trying to figure out was it partisan thing. even the ig said yes, partis partisanship played a role. but he believes that a the facts overrode that it was a partisan role. so i think it s the legitimate concern of a folks in the community. you d hope it would be on both parties to determine what are the motivations for the whistleblower. who it could gave that whistleblower the information then you would go on to the next chapter about volcker, b about saying did the white house tell you to do this for these specific purposes. did you have these conversations with the leadership of ukraine based on the trypsin and the things the president was asking. that s going to be very material to this investigation. there to have hurdles such as security clearances cleared before you hear the testimony of possibly the whistleblower and the same could pertain perhaps to volcker, are you concerned
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he knew what it took to win. but i think we need in our country right now as you mention, michael, a national conversation of how we can reconcile our differences and i think that would be a very patriotic thing to do as a country. nick, you speak of negative partis partisanship. everybody has got to take sides? absolutely as steven was saying and i agree, symptom of our problems. we are so paralyzebecause of this polarization. and it s making us capable of addressing any of the major challenges facing our country. that s because we basically have two opposition parties in our country who in the zero sum only
redeemably tainted. i think he is compromised. i think he is torn between his loyalties to a president he supported strongly, that he was a surrogate for, he was in the transition team for and a committee and an intelligence investigation that is leading to places that he doesn t want it to lead. there is such a world of difference between how the senate is conducting its bipartisan investigation and what is happening in the house and i think it s high time that republican leadership start taking a good look at what s happening in the house intel committee and ask themselves a question. is devin nunes capable of conducting an impartial investigation? because we must take partis partisanship out of it. i don t care whether you are republican, a democrat, a libertarian, a vegetarian or what you are. you should care enormously about this, and it should be something
inauguration. it s our president. i didn t vote for him, but if president obama wanted me someplace, i would go. patriotic duty. if i m a performer, i m going to put partisanship aside for the moment and go do this. it s a celebration of america. but i don t know if it s necessarily about partisanship. i think people could confuse partis partisanship with some of the akt actions that people take or words that they say, and that s not necessarily partisanship. maybe the rockettes are upset about the access hollywood tape. maybe there s other issues that play into it. or how they were asked or who asked, you know. how did this come about? you show up for the president. if it s something like this, you go. i think it s a new day. i think this is not normal, and i think that folks need to stand on their principles. if you don t stand for something, you re going to fall for anything. these days, we have to stand up for something. part of my principle is coming together as a countr