roosevelt rooseveand what went '30s -- >> it's fear, smear, and innuendo that would have made joe mccarthy proud. look, the black church -- there are so many layers of bigotry in this. the black christian church in america has been a powerful shaping influence on our history, was the point of the lance of the civil rights movement. it's where martin luther king came from. now i'd say that to rush limbaugh, i'd say that to glenn beck, and i'd discover they don't like him either. there's something else that ought to be said here. colin powell said it on "meet the press" eloquently the week before the election. barack obama's not a muslim. he's been a christian all his life. what if he was a muslim? i mean, are we going to start applying these religious tests in american public life? that's had john kennedy fought against. >> okay. and it also is -- i want to go back to josh. it is part this crazed way of looking at the situation in egypt.