the romney campaign had over a dozen people in there, they walked in before the debate had even ended, ready to start talking victory. the president's team didn't arrive for 10 to 15 minutes and only just a handful of them in there. that kind of says it all. the one side wanted to come in there and start gloating. the other side scrambling to figure what to say. they're trying to say this is all about mitt romney being a little irritated. many people are saying it was the president being a little bit limp and lackluster. >> most people agree with the latter for sure there. >> so getting beyond this debate, what is next for both men now, karen? >> president obama will be back here in just a couple hours. an event here this morning at university of denver. before he head to wisconsin for an event in madison. that's expected to be a large crowd, ce ca, po mitt romney is heading to virginia today, outside of charlottesville. smaller event, smaller town. rob, paula, now talking about the debate for a couple days.