when it happened in terms of how far into the movie. apparently maybe 20, 30 minutes into the movie. this is when it occurred. people were under the mistaken impression that it was part of a special effect, part of "batman." >> a lot of confusion. >> certainly a hot of confusion here. god knows how many people were in the theater at this point. again, we know the numbers as they are now, that will rapidly change, we know that. in the darkness, in this movie, someone opens fire. this adult male has been caught. his gun has been recovered. police confirm to us an explosive device was found inside the theater. as we said several times, we don't know whether it was planted meaning this was a wildly pre meditameditated atta whether he threw it into the theater after the light went down and the movie again. utter chaos in aurora, colorado, waking up to a devastating scene at a local movie theater there. ten people known dead. 20 injured. chaos ruling in that small town this morning. >> and you are -- >> reporter: rob and paula, if i can jump in here. >> yes, this is clayton sandel, if you're just joining us.