you're seeing more in rural office. cdc data showing while that used to be the case, now it's the metro areas and the suburbs of those areas that are seeing the more overdoses overall. what is interesting is, axios points out, there was an inflection point and 2013. that was around the type that fentanyl, a synthetic opioid, started killing more people than heroin. so opioid usage has risen in urban areas and also the suburbs as well increasingly becoming a problem. >> we just got word, jackie, overall overdoses are down. >> yeah. >> it's an interesting report and gives us a glimmer of hope. the "new york times" reporting using cdc da that that drug overdoses dropped for the first time since 1990. so for three decades, we saw the overdose numbers going up and up