her reasoning behind it over safety concerns was debunked by dhs and secret service. really, her desire -- the dis- invitation and revoking this invitation is solely based on petty politics. clearly she doesn't want to have access to 50 million viewers that would be watching. when you're talking about a government shutdown, the public relations aspect matters. she wants to deny him that opportunity. i think it's sad. it also demonstrates how difficult it's going to be for president trump and nancy pelosi to come to the middle and find some common ground. if you can't even agree over president trump just coming in delivering the state of the union, this is the first time it's happened in history. revoking this invitation. if they can't even agree on this, what hope do we have that they are going to come to any sort of solution? it >> kennedy: to tyrus' point, this is exhausting. is this how it's always going to be? >> harris: it's a fair question. because this is just the beginning. there are a lot of things that need to be legislated. the government has been shut down. when it does finally open up, we've got the debt limit -- can